Even we have normalized how stupid those people are

[dsc]

https://www.joemygod.com/2025/08/vance-world-war-ii-was-ended-through-negotiation/

Speaking to Kristen Welker on Meet the Press Sunday, the vice president vigorously defended Trump’s push to end the war through give-and-take negotiations—rather than the sanctions and ceasefire demands he once leveled at Vladimir Putin.

Using the Second World War to illustrate his point, Vance claimed concessions and diplomacy are vital to end major conflicts—but seemingly forgot that the war ended due to unconditional surrender. “If you go back to World War II, if you go back to World War I. If you go back to every major conflict in human history, they all end with some kind of negotiation,” Vance said.

Unfortunately for Vance, World War II not brought to an end, but came to a close with the unconditional surrender of Germany on May 7, 1945, and Japan on September 2, 1945.

not a post about this here nor any real coverage anywhere else.

Just imagine had Harris said this while she was VP.

[lame54]

1. I remember learning about a couple of big bombs

[Walleye]

2. JD Vance is a dicksplainer. He'll say it again to no matter how wrong he is.

The Republicans have discovered that truth doesn’t matter so they’re all in on ignorance and lying. When your supporters are a cult, you don’t need the truth anymore at all

[Irish_Dem]

3. There was no negotiations to end WWII.

Hitler killed himself and Germany surrendered after being bombed to hell and back.

And we know what happened to Japan.
Unconditional surrender because there was no other choice.

[dsc]

4. which is my point

Had Harris said this we would have heard about it for months.

[Irish_Dem]

5. Yes. The PutinTrump crime syndicate are pathological liars and criminals.

The press, congress, and courts give them a pass and let them operate with impunity.

[Biophilic]

6. Ok, I'm screaming at my poor phone.

But seriously how stupid IS this guy? Didn’t he go to an Ivy League school? He’s our next in line as president? He makes trump look smart, sort of.

[markodochartaigh]

7. It sounds like when

Grandpa Vlad reads bedtime stories to little Donnie he reads the one about "Neville's Really Big, Bestest Negotiation ".

[BaronChocula]

8. It's an American tradition

Giving the worst of white men the biggest of passes.

[Paladin]

9. There's no normalizing them. They keep getting stupider, every day.

The real challenge is keeping up with, and recording, their spiraling ignorance.

[raccoon]

10. You sure got that right.

Just imagine had Harris said this while she was VP.

[harumph]

11. IVY educated fuck-wit no less.

[Oeditpus Rex]

12. Japan's surrender was not unconditional

It was announced as such because Truman repeated it so many times in speeches, but we quietly let them keep the kokutai ("emperorship," for lack of a better word, because Hirohito had god-like status).

[LetMyPeopleVote]

13. MaddowBlog-JD Vance flunks the basics on World War II as the White House targets history museums

If anyone would benefit from some quality time at a history museum, it’s White House officials. Take Vance’s line on the end of World War II, for example.

GIVE JD VANCE A MAGA DUNCE CAP!

Vance has officially earned it!

JD Vance flunks the basics on World War II as the White House targets history museums www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

— Tabby (@tabbys-corner.bsky.social) 2025-08-25T15:17:20.232Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/jd-vance-flunks-basics-world-war-ii-white-house-targets-history-museum-rcna226952

His vice president isn’t much better. HuffPost noted:

Vice President JD Vance fumbled some very textbook facts of world history while talking foreign policy on Sunday’s ‘Meet the Press.’ During the interview, the Yale Law School alum defended President Donald Trump’s decision to entertain Russia’s terms for a peace deal with Ukraine by claiming all wars end in compromise.

NBC News’ Kristen Welker asked the Ohio Republican an important question, “If Russia is allowed to keep any of the territory that it illegally seized, what message does that send to China? Does it give China a green light to invade Taiwan? Does it give Russia a green light to invade other European countries, which is what your European allies are concerned about?”

Instead of answering the question directly, Vance took issue with the premise.

JD Vance: "This is how wars ultimately get settled. If you go back to World War 2, if you go back to every major conflict in human history, they all end with some kind of negotiation."

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-08-24T14:17:02.215Z

......Specifically as to World War II, the United States and its allies gave the Axis powers two choices: death or unconditional surrender. Negotiated settlements were not on the table and at no point did the U.S. consider allowing Germany or Japan to keep territories they had illegally seized by force.

The global conflict was resolved in Europe when Germany collapsed and Adolf Hitler killed himself, ahead of Japan’s surrender after the American bombings at Hiroshima and Nagasaki......

As for how and why Vance got this wrong, it’s possible that the vice president is just confused. It’s also possible that he’s laying the groundwork for a White House policy that would reward Russia for its invasion, as if this is simply “how wars ultimately get settled.”