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BumRushDaShow

(163,965 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:41 PM Sep 25

Trump Says He'll Use Tariff Surplus to Bail Out Farmers Who Are 'Going to be Hurt'

Source: MEDIAite

Sep 25th, 2025, 1:09 pm


President Donald Trump promised Thursday to give surplus tariff money to struggling American farmers, who have been harmed by his trade war.

Trump addressed the farmers’ pain during an Oval Office meeting with Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

“We’re going to take some of that tariff money that we made, we’re going to give it to our farmers, who are, for a little, going to be hurt until it kicks in — the tariffs kick in to their benefit,” Trump said. “So, we’re going to make sure our farmers are in great shape ’cause we’re taking in a lot of money.”

Trump then repeated a story about finding billions of dollars “on the tariff shelf.” “We’re finding, the other day, it was very interesting — they found $31 billion,” Trump said.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/trump-says-hell-bail-out-farmers-who-are-going-to-be-hurt-with-tariff-surplus/

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Trump Says He'll Use Tariff Surplus to Bail Out Farmers Who Are 'Going to be Hurt' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 25 OP
Sounds like a Republican using tax policy to reallocate money. unblock Sep 25 #1
"Picking winners and losers" Pinback Sep 25 #33
The fictional tariff surplus? Ritabert Sep 25 #2
Trillions, he tweeted a few weeks ago. -nt CrispyQ Sep 25 #9
About $200 billion in taxes paid 80 percent by US consumers. Tax, no surplus. Mediaite should know better. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #12
They should also know that if the SC agrees with the law, Volaris Sep 25 #45
The supreme court won't block the tariffs. "Unitary executive" and all that, you know. PSPS Sep 25 #59
I dont know, i think stripping congress of an explicit constitutional directive Volaris Sep 25 #60
Surrrrrrrrrre snowybirdie Sep 25 #3
Two weeks! Krazy_Kat Sep 25 #52
They found 31 billion they did not know they had. Turbineguy Sep 25 #4
So he says. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #14
He may have pulled that number from is ass. Turbineguy Sep 25 #19
You know he did. Codifer Sep 25 #56
Biden leftover money, right? twodogsbarking Sep 25 #31
Don't hold your breath................ Lovie777 Sep 25 #5
He won't do a damn thing to help anyone but himself. Dave Bowman Sep 25 #6
When am I gonna get my DOGE check? calguy Sep 25 #7
The day after we all stop paying taxes. Volaris Sep 25 #46
Thanks.... Good to know calguy Sep 25 #49
Think he bought himself another six months with that statement? Three? CrispyQ Sep 25 #8
Circular dimwit reasoning. Klarkashton Sep 25 #10
He can bail out us. That tariff tax is paid by us. Free food should be the exchange Blue Full Moon Sep 25 #11
And it will be tax payers who will pay for them in the higher prices these tariffs bring. A lot lostincalifornia Sep 25 #13
Trump would be great fertilizer for farm fields. twodogsbarking Sep 25 #15
Almost all those farmers own or run million dollar operations. They are not poor sharecroppers. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 25 #16
farmer agribusiness corporate manager, rampartd Sep 25 #24
This is true around here. The small family farm is gone (there were once over 100k here in IN 50 years ago) Cheezoholic Sep 25 #30
Even if he does this it is just raising prices for consumers. markodochartaigh Sep 25 #17
It didn't help last time BaronChocula Sep 25 #18
Even worse this time. Their markets are completely destroyed and not coming back travelingthrulife Sep 26 #62
How humiliating for America to keep on BSing his way out of his failed policies in front of other leaders. . Doodley Sep 25 #20
We should have elected the guy who took Trump's economics tests in college. twodogsbarking Sep 25 #21
Trump has made farmers into 'takers, not makers'. Norrrm Sep 25 #22
No end to their fucking lies!! bluestarone Sep 25 #23
" ultimately, the farmers are going to be making a fortune. " Goonch Sep 25 #25
Happy Farmer! Glorious Farmer! If you dedicate yourself to MAGA principles and the Five-Year Plan Prairie Gates Sep 25 #29
how much is bailing out millei? rampartd Sep 25 #26
$20B Strelnikov_ Sep 25 #28
Farmers who vote MAGA are lazy and don't want to work Prairie Gates Sep 25 #27
It's a redistribution of wealth from the taxpayers to a core group who probably voted for him. Baitball Blogger Sep 25 #32
Old maga Donald had a grift, e-i-e-i-o C_U_L8R Sep 25 #34
Here I always thought it was Congress' job to determine how we raise money and how we spend money. Midnight Writer Sep 25 #35
So, Trump has a 'tariff shelf" --seems so!! And you can find Billions on it!!...... riversedge Sep 25 #36
Here we go again Hartpi978 Sep 25 #37
The huge Corporate Agricultural owned farms popsdenver Sep 25 #39
Define: "surplus tariff money?" Grins Sep 25 #38
How was the tariff money supposed to be allocated? colorado_ufo Sep 25 #40
You mean the additional money that U.S. consumers paid for foreign products? Botany Sep 25 #41
Hey, Farmers of America. I really fucked you over, didn't I? Scalded Nun Sep 25 #42
TACO's Welfare for Farmers MissouriDem47 Sep 25 #43
Temporary fix TexasBushwhacker Sep 25 #44
So TARIIFF money paid by US citizens is going to be given to US farmers so they don't go bankrupt? Thank goodness for NoMoreRepugs Sep 25 #47
More lies orangecrush Sep 25 #48
He will use that money for tax breaks to bail out billionaires who own some farmland Attilatheblond Sep 25 #50
Because of course Aviation Pro Sep 25 #51
tRump, Socialist Scum. Those lazy farmers have boot straps, use em, freeloaders. OverBurn Sep 25 #53
And what legislation allows him to do this? Bluetus Sep 25 #54
There is no Tariff surplus Wiz Imp Sep 25 #55
CANT DO THIS WITH EO eringer Sep 25 #57
"WE FOUND 31 BILLION DOLLARS"....what a fucking door jam this asshole is democratsruletheday Sep 25 #58
Again, arsonist puts out fire he started to be called a hero, saviour, and get that Nobel Peace Prize Blue Dotty Sep 25 #61
Throwing our country deeper in debt. Emile Sep 26 #63

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
12. About $200 billion in taxes paid 80 percent by US consumers. Tax, no surplus. Mediaite should know better. . . . nt
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:51 PM
Sep 25

Volaris

(11,291 posts)
45. They should also know that if the SC agrees with the law,
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:55 PM
Sep 25

that says all this nonsense he's done is ILLEGAL AS HELL, the US govt has to pay back every tarriff penny they illegally collected.
Surplus, my ass.

They should ALSO also know, the tariffs are the reason the farmers all got fucked on this deal to begin with.

Maybe, they should be reporting on the nature of face-eating leopards, so stupid maga morons stop doing this to themselves.

PSPS

(15,135 posts)
59. The supreme court won't block the tariffs. "Unitary executive" and all that, you know.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:18 PM
Sep 25

Volaris

(11,291 posts)
60. I dont know, i think stripping congress of an explicit constitutional directive
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:38 PM
Sep 25

and handing it to the next Democratic party president is a bridge too far for Roberts and Barret.

I guess we'll see.

Turbineguy

(39,687 posts)
4. They found 31 billion they did not know they had.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:44 PM
Sep 25

These clowns are running the government. They can freely admit their incompetence.

Turbineguy

(39,687 posts)
19. He may have pulled that number from is ass.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:55 PM
Sep 25

The point is they can do that. They use their own names. Everyday trump stays in power is a small victory for him.

Codifer

(1,136 posts)
56. You know he did.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:37 PM
Sep 25

He said: "They came back to me the next morning ans said 'sir (sire), we found it on the tariff shelf'"

I do not know if they were big burley mwen with tears in their eyes but when tsf says they called him "sir"..... he is fucking lying.

But we knew that.

CrispyQ

(40,503 posts)
8. Think he bought himself another six months with that statement? Three?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:47 PM
Sep 25

Three puts us right at Christmas.

lostincalifornia

(4,836 posts)
13. And it will be tax payers who will pay for them in the higher prices these tariffs bring. A lot
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:51 PM
Sep 25

Of Americans are not the brightest, and believe the sociopath that there is a free lunch.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
16. Almost all those farmers own or run million dollar operations. They are not poor sharecroppers. . . . nt
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:53 PM
Sep 25

Cheezoholic

(3,470 posts)
30. This is true around here. The small family farm is gone (there were once over 100k here in IN 50 years ago)
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:26 PM
Sep 25

One of the things these "farmers" are doing is leasing their land to corporate farm industries who do the actual farming. The ones that run their farm operations around here are, as you said, huge. Gone are the red barns and they are replaced with 100k sq ft buildings holding 10s of millions of dollars worth of machinery and many have their own giant holding/drying silos so they can play the commodities market.

Another thing that is going on is real estate. Indianapolis, like many medium sized or so Midwest cities are now bleeding directly into the farmland and absorbing the once small farming communities around it with suburban sprawl. Many of these large farmers also carry huge lines of credit when needed capable of borrowing millions. I have been seeing a surge over the last 10 years of farmers within an hour or so of downtown blocking out a couple of acres out of say 1k, getting a zone variance for residential and building huge 6,7,8k sq ft multi million dollar monstrosity "castle" like homes and selling them for god knows how much profit. These things are ugly as hell and so out of place. Every one with a 4 car garage, a mini barn, a Kubota to cut the grass, maybe even an acre for a couple of horses for these nickel millionaire fucks who move into them. I mean every city of this size or larger has some bit coin millionaires just salivating to live the lifestyles etc. Average Joes who basically hit the lottery (I personally know one who held on to 30 bitcoin until he retired and bought one of these things for 2 million cash down the road from me). These aren't subdivisions mind you, most of these rural counties have hard zoning laws on how much land must be used for far/grazing/green space in order to qualify for State and Federal tax advantages. This is especially going on in the county to the North of Indy which has the highest concentration of millionaires in the state and is 75% farm land (Home of the Hitler Youth Moms for Liberty flyer).

If I had it to waste and could bet, I'd bet these places will be empty and falling down 10-20 years just like the remnants of the small family farms of yesteryear scattered around the country here. It sickens me to no end and reminds me of modern day feudalism.

markodochartaigh

(4,703 posts)
17. Even if he does this it is just raising prices for consumers.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:54 PM
Sep 25

Consumers ultimately pay whatever tariff is not paid by the seller, which is most of the tariff. Then this money paid to the government Trump is going to give to the farmers. And we know that the huge, well-connected corporate farms will get the bulk of the money.

travelingthrulife

(3,977 posts)
62. Even worse this time. Their markets are completely destroyed and not coming back
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 03:33 PM
Sep 26

Trump has pissed off the world so trade will be dismal, tourism demolished.

Doodley

(11,547 posts)
20. How humiliating for America to keep on BSing his way out of his failed policies in front of other leaders. .
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:00 PM
Sep 25

bluestarone

(20,893 posts)
23. No end to their fucking lies!!
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:05 PM
Sep 25

BUYING VOTES here. Help the farmers, because they will SCREAM the loudest.

Prairie Gates

(6,918 posts)
29. Happy Farmer! Glorious Farmer! If you dedicate yourself to MAGA principles and the Five-Year Plan
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:21 PM
Sep 25

You will bring riches and prosperity to yourself and to all glorious MAGA people!

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Prairie Gates

(6,918 posts)
27. Farmers who vote MAGA are lazy and don't want to work
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:16 PM
Sep 25

They know that Trump's policies destroy their markets and result in government subsidies. That's what happened the last time and that's what's happening now. It stands to reason that these MAGA farmers knew that they would be and will be bailed out, and voted the way they did because they can't compete on the market and don't want to work. How long do we have to bail out these parasitic, lazy farmers?

Baitball Blogger

(51,541 posts)
32. It's a redistribution of wealth from the taxpayers to a core group who probably voted for him.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:35 PM
Sep 25

Not like it hasn't been done before.

Midnight Writer

(25,033 posts)
35. Here I always thought it was Congress' job to determine how we raise money and how we spend money.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:08 PM
Sep 25

Guess that is old-school stuff.

The Republicans in Congress have decided not to do their Constituionally mandated duties.

Instead, they will turn those duties over to Trump and whatever Lunatic-O-the-Day has caught his attention.

riversedge

(78,944 posts)
36. So, Trump has a 'tariff shelf" --seems so!! And you can find Billions on it!!......
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:09 PM
Sep 25

Wish I had a tariff shelf to check every now and then!!

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/trump-says-hell-bail-out-farmers-who-are-going-to-be-hurt-with-tariff-surplus/

..........Trump then repeated a story about finding billions of dollars “on the tariff shelf.”

“We’re finding, the other day, it was very interesting — they found $31 billion,” Trump said.

They said, “Sir,” I said, “You mean positively, right?” They said, “Yeah, 31 more than we knew. We didn’t know where it came from.” I said, “Check the tariff shelf.” They came back the following morning, they said, “You’re right sir, it came from the tariffs. We’ve never seen anything like this.”

So what we’re going to be doing is taking some money from all of the tariff money that we’re taking and we’re going to be distributing it to all of our farmers, until the tariffs kick in to their benefit. which, ultimately, the farmers are going to be making a fortune. But it’s a process that ultimately has to kick in.

Hartpi978

(45 posts)
37. Here we go again
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:12 PM
Sep 25

During his last term, he bailed out the farmers to the tune of $32 billion, that way they would continue to vote for him. Now he is going to give them another $31 billion. At least this is all in our faces.

popsdenver

(1,158 posts)
39. The huge Corporate Agricultural owned farms
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:23 PM
Sep 25

always end up getting most of the bail out money, while the family owned farms are going belly up just like he did in his first term..........

Grins

(9,149 posts)
38. Define: "surplus tariff money?"
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:16 PM
Sep 25

There is no "surplus tariff money" if you are still in debt. The debt holders come before all others.

colorado_ufo

(6,188 posts)
40. How was the tariff money supposed to be allocated?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:31 PM
Sep 25

I never heard where the money was going or what it was to be used for. You can't have a surplus if you don't have a goal.

Botany

(76,004 posts)
41. You mean the additional money that U.S. consumers paid for foreign products?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:46 PM
Sep 25

Foreign countries, foreign industries, and foreign agricultural producers aren’t paying the
tariffs the American people are paying them.

Scalded Nun

(1,567 posts)
42. Hey, Farmers of America. I really fucked you over, didn't I?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:47 PM
Sep 25

But now I can be your hero by fucking over the country with my tariffs , stealing from your fellow Americans, and giving you a pittance.

Ain't I wonderful!!??

TexasBushwhacker

(21,071 posts)
44. Temporary fix
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:49 PM
Sep 25

Once you've lost a customer, it's next to impossible to get them back. Trump was apparently under the impression that China couldn't get soybeans, wheat, etc from ANYWHERE ELSE on the planet. It turns out they were able to get it from Brazil just fine.

Even when the tariffs are removed/reduced, the farmers will have a heck of a time being able to ship to China again.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,744 posts)
47. So TARIIFF money paid by US citizens is going to be given to US farmers so they don't go bankrupt? Thank goodness for
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:57 PM
Sep 25

Republican stay out of my business credo.......

Attilatheblond

(7,919 posts)
50. He will use that money for tax breaks to bail out billionaires who own some farmland
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:11 PM
Sep 25

Small, family farmers, who by the way are usually 'incorporated' for many reasons, will be SOL.

Bluetus

(2,013 posts)
54. And what legislation allows him to do this?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:32 PM
Sep 25

Since the Congress has no function, let's shut it down and save all those salaries.

Wiz Imp

(8,379 posts)
55. There is no Tariff surplus
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sep 25

Revenue taken in by the US Treasury in FY 2025 (includes tariffs) = $4.69 Trillion.

US Spending in FY 2025 $6.66 Trillion.

Surplus = NEGATIVE $1.97 Trillion

Amount added to National debt = $1.97 Trillion

eringer

(508 posts)
57. CANT DO THIS WITH EO
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:37 PM
Sep 25

The convicted felon will need congress to create a new Tariff Superfund to do what he wants to do. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
I guess those farmers can now throw away their “TRUMP WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING” hats.
First he took their laborers away and then he destroyed their markets.

democratsruletheday

(1,806 posts)
58. "WE FOUND 31 BILLION DOLLARS"....what a fucking door jam this asshole is
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:51 PM
Sep 25

can't stand his idiotic ass. BTW, what becomes of all the surplus crops? They won't keep in storage fer crissakes. There have been record yields this season and NO market(s) to sell them to thanks to dumb fuck's non deal with China, historically our biggest Soybean buyer:

https://www.tspr.org/2025-09-25/china-trade-american-soybean-farmers-limited-options-sell-grain

Blue Dotty

(162 posts)
61. Again, arsonist puts out fire he started to be called a hero, saviour, and get that Nobel Peace Prize
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 09:19 PM
Sep 25
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