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Mysterian

(6,072 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 03:37 PM Oct 21

13 Senate Democrats Vote to Advance Trump Nominee During Shutdown

Source: New Republic

Thirteen Senate Democrats voted alongside Republicans Tuesday to instate a conservative judge to the Northern District of Alabama.

The Senate voted 66–32 in favor of confirming Harold “Hal” Mooty III as a U.S. district judge. Donald Trump nominated Mooty last month, and his confirmation needed a simple majority in the Senate.

The Democrats that voted in favor include:

Senators Chris Coons (Delaware)
Dick Durbin (Illinois)
John Fetterman (Pennsylvania)
Maggie Hassan (New Hampshire)
Martin Heinrich (New Mexico)
Tim Kaine (Virginia)
Mark Kelly (Arizona)
Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota)
Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
Adam Schiff (California)
Jeanne Shaheen (New Hampshire)
Peter Welch (Vermont)
Sheldon Whitehouse (Rhode Island)

Read more: https://newrepublic.com/post/202072/13-senate-democrats-vote-donald-trump-nominee-shutdown



I have to wonder why Democrats are doing anything to help republicans as the government shutdown continues and the corrupt Speaker of the House refuses to swear in an elected Democratic congresswoman.
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13 Senate Democrats Vote to Advance Trump Nominee During Shutdown (Original Post) Mysterian Oct 21 OP
🤬🤬🤬🤬 Chasstev365 Oct 21 #1
lol RandiFan1290 Oct 21 #2
I'm curious about that list. ificandream Oct 21 #3
Sheldon Whitehouse?! intheflow Oct 21 #4
There are several anti trump conservative judges out there mountain grammy Oct 21 #10
So far this year, 12 Judicial nominees have been confirmed Wiz Imp Oct 22 #36
Might be part of a deal to get the heathcare tax credits covered OP. cstanleytech Oct 21 #5
Seems like when dealing with these people we should get our perks Hope22 Oct 21 #6
once the judge is sworn in it is for life rampartd Oct 21 #8
You can't trust the word of a repuglican mdbl Oct 22 #31
Yes you can trust them......to break it if they just feel like it. cstanleytech Oct 22 #38
Nope. Democratic votes made no difference in the confirmation. Wiz Imp Oct 22 #37
"I have to wonder why Democrats are doing anything to help republicans" Wiz Imp Oct 21 #7
I get at least one or two texts a day asking doc03 Oct 21 #9
I beg to differ Mysterian Oct 22 #17
That's just silly. A nominee being confirmed with 50 votes vs a nominee being confirmed Wiz Imp Oct 22 #23
Precisely why I question the Democratic votes Mysterian Oct 22 #24
There have been 12 Judicial nominees confirmed so far this year. Wiz Imp Oct 22 #35
I agree 100% Ferrets are Cool Oct 22 #27
Repubs did need help for cloture, which the dems provided questionseverything Oct 22 #18
WRONG. There is no filibuster on nominees. Wiz Imp Oct 22 #22
See post # 14 questionseverything Oct 22 #29
So what? I repeat: THERE IS NO FILIBUSTER ALLOWED ON NOMINEES. Wiz Imp Oct 22 #32
This isn't my job, I don't care either way questionseverything Oct 22 #33
{sigh} 🙄🧱🙄🧱 Wiz Imp Oct 22 #34
Some "opposition party," eh? (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Oct 22 #11
WTAF. 58Sunliner Oct 22 #12
Thank Goddess my two are not on that list. With the exception niyad Oct 22 #13
I want explanation not exploitation. Don't you? Good grief. What is going on? littlemissmartypants Oct 22 #15
Done deal... littlemissmartypants Oct 22 #14
Well the Republicans only needed 51 votes Farmer-Rick Oct 22 #16
Wrote a few NewEnglandAutumn Oct 22 #19
Conservative isn't necessarily equal to Trumper Deminpenn Oct 22 #20
Hope you're proud of yourselves, Senate Democrats. Paladin Oct 22 #21
I have nothing nice to say. Hotler Oct 22 #25
What has happened to Martin Heinrich? Very disappointing. Clouds Passing Oct 22 #26
Why would they do this? Emile Oct 22 #28
We ask for opposition to fascism Miguelito Loveless Oct 22 #30
WTF? karin_sj Oct 22 #39

ificandream

(11,548 posts)
3. I'm curious about that list.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 03:43 PM
Oct 21

There are some very strong liberals in there. I doubt they'd have voted for this guy if he was a complete Trumper.

mountain grammy

(28,443 posts)
10. There are several anti trump conservative judges out there
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:21 PM
Oct 21

I wish a some of them were still on the bench. doubt if I would have said that before ..

Wiz Imp

(8,154 posts)
36. So far this year, 12 Judicial nominees have been confirmed
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:37 PM
Oct 22

This guy is the only one to receive even a single Democratic vote. So clearly, there was something about him that some Democrats found to be acceptable. He clearly isn't a typical Trump Judicial nominee.

cstanleytech

(28,048 posts)
5. Might be part of a deal to get the heathcare tax credits covered OP.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 03:46 PM
Oct 21

We'll just have to wait and see.

Hope22

(4,336 posts)
6. Seems like when dealing with these people we should get our perks
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 03:57 PM
Oct 21

Up front. There is never a guarantee with Rs.

Wiz Imp

(8,154 posts)
37. Nope. Democratic votes made no difference in the confirmation.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:40 PM
Oct 22

He would have been confirmed even if 0 Democrats voted for him. 2 other Judicial nominees were confirmed in the past 2 days with 0 Democratic votes. This guy is the only Judicial nominee (out of 12) so far this year to get a single Democratic vote. Clearly, Democrats found him to not be a typical Trump Judge nominee.

Wiz Imp

(8,154 posts)
7. "I have to wonder why Democrats are doing anything to help republicans"
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 04:10 PM
Oct 21

Those votes don't help Republicans at all. The nominee would be confirmed even with 0 Democratic votes.

Note: I'm not defending the votes, I don't think any Democrat should be voting for anything on the Republican side at this point. Just pointing out that their votes don't make a difference on any nominees supported by at least 50 Republican Senators..

doc03

(38,647 posts)
9. I get at least one or two texts a day asking
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 04:29 PM
Oct 21

for money. This stuff and getting on the suckers list has keep me from giving.

Mysterian

(6,072 posts)
17. I beg to differ
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:02 AM
Oct 22

The votes show that several Democrats showed solidarity with their republican "colleagues" as the fascist republican takeover of the U.S.A. continues apace. Anything that shows cooperation with these motherfuckers is helping them out, in my humble opinion.

Wiz Imp

(8,154 posts)
23. That's just silly. A nominee being confirmed with 50 votes vs a nominee being confirmed
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:36 AM
Oct 22

with 70 votes vs a nominee being confirmed with 90 votes is irrelevant. They are all confirmed and have the exact same amount of power no matter how many votes they got. Rubio was confirmed by unanimous consent. Would he be any better if all Democrats had voted against him? Of course not. He's terrible regardless. Democratic votes did not help the Republicans at all. He was going to be confirmed regardless.

Mysterian

(6,072 posts)
24. Precisely why I question the Democratic votes
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:45 AM
Oct 22

Take your silly and place it somewhere dark.

Wiz Imp

(8,154 posts)
35. There have been 12 Judicial nominees confirmed so far this year.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:34 PM
Oct 22

This guy is the only one to receive even a single Democratic vote so there is clearly a reason why several Democrats found him acceptable. Getting angry over a handful of Democrats making a totally irrelevant vote on a single Judicial nominee is ridiculous. Anger should be reserved for votes which make a difference in legislation getting passed. I don't think there have been more than 3 or 4 of them in the Senate so far this year.

questionseverything

(11,484 posts)
18. Repubs did need help for cloture, which the dems provided
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:05 AM
Oct 22

So the nominee would not have been confirmed w/o dems

Wiz Imp

(8,154 posts)
22. WRONG. There is no filibuster on nominees.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:20 AM
Oct 22

If there were we would not have Noem, Bondi, Hegseth, Patel, Kennedy, and a bunch of others who were confirmed with only Republican votes.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL31980

On November 21, 2013, the Senate reinterpreted Rule XXII to allow cloture to be invoked on any nominations, except those to the Supreme Court, by a majority of Senators voting, instead of by three-fifths of the Senate. On April 6, 2017, the Senate voted to extend this reinterpretation to allow cloture to be invoked by a majority on nominations to the Supreme Court as well.

Wiz Imp

(8,154 posts)
32. So what? I repeat: THERE IS NO FILIBUSTER ALLOWED ON NOMINEES.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:36 PM
Oct 22

Read this again from the official Congressional website.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RL31980

On November 21, 2013, the Senate reinterpreted Rule XXII to allow cloture to be invoked on any nominations, except those to the Supreme Court, by a majority of Senators voting, instead of by three-fifths of the Senate. On April 6, 2017, the Senate voted to extend this reinterpretation to allow cloture to be invoked by a majority on nominations to the Supreme Court as well.


recent votes:

579 (53-46) Agreed to On the Cloture Motion: Motion to Invoke Cloture: William W. Mercer to be United States District Judge for the District of Montana Oct 21

578 (53-46) Agreed to On the Cloture Motion: Motion to Invoke Cloture: Anne-Leigh Gaylord Moe to be United States District Judge for the Middle District of Florida Oct 21


Notice 2 votes invoking cloture on US District judges which passed with only the 53 Republican votes.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00579.htm
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00578.htm


It only takes a simple majority to invoke cloture on nominees. I won't hold my breath waiting for you to admit you were wrong - but whether you admit it or not, YOU WERE WRONG.

niyad

(128,549 posts)
13. Thank Goddess my two are not on that list. With the exception
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:00 AM
Oct 22

of fetterman, I am seriously depressed by that list.

littlemissmartypants

(30,897 posts)
14. Done deal...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:38 AM
Oct 22

Cloture was invoked on his nomination by a vote of 62 to 34.[5] On October 21, 2025, his nomination was confirmed by a 66–32 vote.[6] He is awaiting his judicial commission.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Mooty

Mooty is currently a partner at Bradley Arant Boult Cummings in its Huntsville, Alabama office.[2] His focus is on commercial litigation, including contract disputes, shareholder disputes, and torts. He's also practiced insurance, medical malpractice, and technology law[4][3]

Farmer-Rick

(12,294 posts)
16. Well the Republicans only needed 51 votes
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:44 AM
Oct 22

They had 53 without those 13 Dems. So, I wonder what the purpose of those Dems votes was? It's certainly not a good look in the middle of a shutdown fight.

Paladin

(32,026 posts)
21. Hope you're proud of yourselves, Senate Democrats.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 08:12 AM
Oct 22

"I Sunk Down To Fetterman's Level" is such a worthy goal attainment...

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