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EdmondDantes_

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209. I've looked. It's nothing but suppositions and uncited data

Thu Jun 12, 2025, 08:38 PM

Jun 12

Drop off rate difference isn't actually evidence especially with a candidate as out of the norm as Trump. They never actually link to their data and when I tried to follow the Clark County data the county site doesn't present the breakdown of the vote curve that they claim shows after 250 votes the trend went towards Trump. The data by machine doesn't appear to be on the county website. Unless they can actually show the data from the source that shows what they claim, it's not convincing.

The Pennsylvania evidence is Trump saying vote counting machines and Musk, but given the quote also has Trump saying he won in a landslide, kind of hard to take anything Trump says as true. And then it's just a bunch of random anecdotes of machine failure or bomb threats seemingly not to the actual voting locations. They even noted that the reported machine issues had limited impact, but that in theory it gave an opportunity for malicious actors. That's not even remotely convincing.

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Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County [View all] Just_Vote_Dem Jun 11 OP

Could be something to keep an eye on. Torchlight Jun 11 #1

Not errors in many other places too...Musk money. brush Jun 11 #57

"Zero votes in a precinct for a presidential candidate: It happens, and experts say it's not voter fraud" - AJC TheProle Jun 11 #100

Forget aout the experts what do you say? brush Jun 11 #102

I don't know all the facts, so I am withholding judgment TheProle Jun 11 #106

Voting present, huh? brush Jun 11 #107

Post removed Post removed Jun 11 #154

Are you serious?? MorbidButterflyTat Jun 11 #167

So you have evidence to back up this claim, then? Jedi Guy Jun 12 #177

Dumpy and looney both admitted they cheated numerous times out loud and in public! Clouds Passing Jun 12 #186

Ummm.... Happy Hoosier Jun 12 #193

Let me make sure I understand you. Are you saying trump won all the swing states fair and square? brush Jun 13 #211

It is an unfortunate reality. I certainly don't believe in delusional Trump-style conspiracy theories. tritsofme Jun 13 #213

You're not the one I'm asking. brush Jun 13 #214

I answered anyways! You are very welcome! tritsofme Jun 13 #215

I had a dialogue going with someone else. Sorry. brush Jun 13 #216

How about we not sound lke the YouTube scholars on the right? Cuthbert Allgood Jun 11 #144

It wouldn't surprise me one bit. n/t ailsagirl Jun 13 #210

Kristen gilla brand got ninety percent of the vote Tribetime Jun 12 #173

Are you saying in the precinct where Kamala got no votes????? MadameButterfly Jun 12 #175

But it was a county, not a precinct Bob_in_VA Jun 12 #192

No it specifies districts in Rockland. Overall country results here: TheProle Jun 12 #198

Someone needs to explain to me how hundreds of people voted for Gillibrand Wingus Dingus Jun 11 #2

And, if I remember correctly... appmanga Jun 11 #13

Rockland is big, but the individual districts within it are not. thesquanderer Jun 11 #109

And all of those 554 voters were Haredi Jews Random Boomer Jun 11 #133

And a woman. legallyblondeNYC Jun 12 #195

Thanks (nt) appmanga Jun 12 #183

Someone needs to explain to me... returnee Jun 11 #42

And always by the same people questionseverything Jun 11 #80

Unless they're in Arizona or Georgia MadameButterfly Jun 12 #176

And resistance to the idea of actually looking into it and finding out. hamsterjill Jun 11 #165

Because there is no evidence to support the claim EdmondDantes_ Jun 12 #184

I would encourage you to take a look at... returnee Jun 12 #197

"when my gut tells me something I look to see if there's anything that might support it." TheProle Jun 12 #199

Well then, I guess that's settled... returnee Jun 12 #202

I've looked. It's nothing but suppositions and uncited data EdmondDantes_ Jun 12 #209

Because it was nutty when republicans believed the same thing four years earlier and it's still nutty today FBaggins Jun 12 #203

Check my post above... returnee Jun 12 #204

Why not just look at reporting from right after the election? FBaggins Jun 12 #206

P.S.: returnee Jun 12 #205

I asked that question here on DU about some counties in the swing states in late November yobrault1 Jun 11 #47

In 2020, same precinct was 528 trump to 0 Biden. Guess that was hacked too. Silent Type Jun 11 #48

I'll wait for the lawsuit to play out before I draw conclusions. Wingus Dingus Jun 11 #53

Absolutely rigged too. Only a moron would believe there was no rigging/money changing hands. brush Jun 11 #60

Honestly, I think "morons" ignore facts. Silent Type Jun 11 #63

Whatever that means. Let's try idiot. Idiots will believe that trump won the election. brush Jun 11 #67

Hope we don't run on that conspiracy theory in midterms. I'd like a chance at House. Silent Type Jun 11 #73

Unjoy your stay. brush Jun 11 #76

Oh, I like that phrase! KPN Jun 12 #194

I'm pretty sure you've heard it before. brush Jun 12 #207

Well then. I'll take that under advisement. KPN Jun 12 #208

You disagree so the poster insinuates you'll get booted from the site Ponietz Jun 11 #152

You are right, why didn't Harris, Biden, anyone, protest? Gotta admit, it was tough for me to accept we lost to Silent Type Jun 11 #160

MAGA has always existed in some form Ponietz Jun 12 #181

Not rigged, just a sociological zebra Random Boomer Jun 11 #137

Nah, there are always a few contrarians who love to go against the grain. brush Jun 11 #139

Only in a larger community Random Boomer Jun 11 #143

Nope, and I'll also never belief that trump won all the swing states. brush Jun 11 #145

Swing states would make much more sense Random Boomer Jun 11 #148

And therein lies the rub. DiamondShark Jun 12 #174

I never said he won the swing states... Random Boomer Jun 11 #151

You should make this a separate post. Maybe more people would see it. I'm glad you shared it. LauraInLA Jun 11 #119

That district votes as a bloc Random Boomer Jun 11 #135

This! Doodley Jun 11 #153

A staunch NYC Democrat explained it to me Random Boomer Jun 11 #126

aren't non-Jews allowed to vote in the county though? (nt) cadoman Jun 11 #149

for the umpeenth time: the zero votes weren't countywide. onenote Jun 11 #166

It's not a county result Random Boomer Jun 12 #187

Yeah, that makes no sense at all.... Not that such an anomaly makes any difference in New York Jack Valentino Jun 11 #164

Would a draft-dodging, casino-hustling, G.O.P. felon/rapist cheat? BoRaGard Jun 11 #3

Absolutely! It's what T💩p does. He and Eloon bragged about it. OMGWTF Jun 11 #18

I mark his admission of the fix being in returnee Jun 11 #49

Man who cheated on all three wives mahina Jun 11 #112

No shit! MorbidButterflyTat Jun 12 #169

Whichever of Musk's whiz kids was assigned that district got a little overzealous. nt Buns_of_Fire Jun 11 #4

Wonder just how much fraud really happened in these last elections. Zero votes for Kamala? That's as SWBTATTReg Jun 11 #5

So how do you know the other results are "lawful "? questionseverything Jun 11 #6

Because zero votes is a statistical impossibility. Basso8vb Jun 11 #34

I agree the zero is impossible but the same machine that produced the zero produced the other results questionseverything Jun 11 #37

I believe a targeted digital attack is possible. returnee Jun 11 #50

Off course a targeted digital attack is possible but questionseverything Jun 11 #62

Any kind of attack was completely unnecessary in NY State Random Boomer Jun 11 #142

Hence the investigation and lawsuit. Basso8vb Jun 11 #97

👍 questionseverything Jun 11 #98

Statistical Methods, By Definition.... ProfessorGAC Jun 11 #125

Statistics are about averages, not specifics, and this specific case is different Random Boomer Jun 11 #129

It's only impossible if you assume general voting patterns Random Boomer Jun 11 #130

You clearly know nothing about statistics. Wiz Imp Jun 11 #155

I'm reading on Politifact that it was a Hasidic Jewish district and that they Wingus Dingus Jun 11 #8

The candidate who instigated the probe says she has affidavits from people who voted in the district Prairie Gates Jun 11 #12

It's not entirely Hasidic. It's right over the Tappan Zee bridge. There are Hasidic pockets around Pomona, but Scrivener7 Jun 11 #15

They're not talking about all of Rockland county. Just one district, which had 554 total voters. thesquanderer Jun 11 #110

OK. Thanks. Scrivener7 Jun 11 #124

I know people in Rockland who voted for Harris/Walz. returnee Jun 11 #52

See post #110. It was not Rockland county, it was just one small district within the county. (nt) thesquanderer Jun 11 #111

you've got your work cut out for you but thank you for re-iterating this (nt) cadoman Jun 11 #150

How come when I brought this up a couple of weeks ago, Bluetus Jun 11 #134

Rockland County is roughly 31.4% Jewish, and they are NOT all Hasidic, although the Hasidic community is significant! markpkessinger Jun 11 #78

I think the confusion lies in the fact that Harris DID get votes in that county as a whole, but Wingus Dingus Jun 11 #82

See post #110. It was not Rockland county, it was just one small district within the county. (nt) thesquanderer Jun 11 #116

Some of the wards that voted heavily or almost unanimously for Trump also voted heavily for Gillibrand's opponent. onenote Jun 11 #104

Gillibrand worked hard to get their votes Random Boomer Jun 11 #136

It's coming up now because a local candidate for a small local office in the district disputed Prairie Gates Jun 11 #9

Because there is no there there Random Boomer Jun 11 #138

This obviously needs more attention. beveeheart Jun 11 #7

And more attention should have been DENVERPOPS Jun 11 #21

No it does not. Random Boomer Jun 11 #140

I'm sure the current DOJ is looking into it. multigraincracker Jun 11 #10

I remain malaise Jun 11 #11

Something stinks alright, besides Captain Pantload himself Blue Owl Jun 11 #22

I'm with you, malaise peggysue2 Jun 11 #24

Doubting returnee, here. n/t returnee Jun 11 #54

Don't take just anyone's word; try this source. usaf-vet Jun 11 #31

It's obvious trump/musk bought the election. Harris should be president. brush Jun 11 #66

I've been following this case. Really, everyone here should be. Karasu Jun 11 #14

Ah see Hornedfrog2000 Jun 11 #16

The OP is deceptive: it's not Rockland County as a whole, but one voting district in Rockland County Prairie Gates Jun 11 #44

No Harris votes in Rockland County definitely points to cheating. But what an odd County to choose. It wouldn't Scrivener7 Jun 11 #17

For a narcissist, it would be as important to win the popular vote as the electoral vote. Pacifist Patriot Jun 11 #20

Bingo! He wanted them to make sure he got Quakerfriend Jun 11 #33

Maybe the cheater is really bad at cheating Auggie Jun 11 #35

It's not the whole county, but one district Prairie Gates Jun 11 #45

Even more unlikely. District 17 encompasses all of Rockland county, all of Putnam county, some of Westchester Scrivener7 Jun 11 #64

The district in question isn't Congressional 'district 17' -- its Rockland County district of Ramapo onenote Jun 11 #99

OK. Thanks. Scrivener7 Jun 11 #123

The zero votes was in one small district, 554 total voters. See post #110. (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 11 #117

She didn't get zero votes in the county. She got zero votes in some wards within the county onenote Jun 11 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Jun 11 #72

See post #110. It was not Rockland county, it was just one small district within the county. (nt) thesquanderer Jun 11 #115

It does NOT point to cheating if you know the area Random Boomer Jun 11 #128

But she won New York State easily. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 11 #19

2024 Presidential and Senate Results Called Into Question as Lawsuit Advances 121 million views for our Rockland County littlemissmartypants Jun 11 #23

Marking for election info questionseverything Jun 13 #217

Where are they getting the "zero votes" info? Very misleading headline! Pacifist Patriot Jun 11 #25

Biden won Rockland County by only 2600 votes in 2020 onenote Jun 11 #38

In Rampo precinct 35, Biden lost 528 trump to 0 Biden in 2020. Guess that was hacked too. Silent Type Jun 11 #58

Hacked isn't really the correct term questionseverything Jun 11 #69

One "conspiracy" theory, maybe. Silent Type Jun 11 #74

If it's a "conspiracy " to believe the American people have the right to oversee their own elections? questionseverything Jun 11 #81

We lost. We need to come to grips with that to move forward and win against, rather than sounding Silent Type Jun 11 #85

Or I could listen to Obama who said, " we have to beat them so bad there is no doubt " questionseverything Jun 11 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Jun 11 #88

Zero votes was within one small district within the county, with 554 total voters. (nt) thesquanderer Jun 11 #113

Thank you! Pacifist Patriot Jun 11 #131

Here's a link to the lawsuit... ultralite001 Jun 11 #26

Additional details are also noted here: ultralite001 Jun 12 #178

Information about "algorithms" + rigging the vote... ultralite001 Jun 12 #179

0 votes for Harris in a county of 340,000 is simply impossible. Fil1957 Jun 11 #27

I think she received votes in the county, but in a district within that county (smaller unit) Wingus Dingus Jun 11 #28

A district within Rockland county Prairie Gates Jun 11 #46

Actually not even the district -- certain wards in Ramapo. onenote Jun 11 #56

That isn't what the certified results on the NY elections website shows onenote Jun 11 #29

You are looking at the county results while the article talks about a district questionseverything Jun 11 #61

And the headline says zero votes in a New York County not in a part of a New York County. onenote Jun 11 #71

Well read past the first line? questionseverything Jun 11 #87

If an article claimed to be written by journalists starts off with such a blatant lie MichMan Jun 11 #93

Take it up with the New York state Supreme Court questionseverything Jun 11 #94

Whoever wrote that headline needs to find a new line of work. MichMan Jun 11 #95

I actually edited it Just_Vote_Dem Jun 11 #101

Because the validity of the allegations in UnderThisLaw Jun 11 #118

Yes, it's a deceptive headline. (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 11 #114

ANother article about this: Amaryllis Jun 11 #30

Politifact explains the facts. Seems trump beat Biden in 2020 by 528-0. Silent Type Jun 11 #32

If you survey 528 people on ANY topic Seinan Sensei Jun 11 #120

Voting ain't a survey. Conspiracy theories, refusal to accept defeat, and, worse won't win elections. Silent Type Jun 11 #122

I hate to break it to you, but by your logic, Obama cheated to win both elections in 2008 and 2012 Wiz Imp Jun 11 #158

But...But...But it's a statistical impossibility according to some. MichMan Jun 11 #168

Well, well, well. Who is really surprised? Hope this can of worms gets ripped wide open. Joinfortmill Jun 11 #36

what I like about these stories is this... Javaman Jun 11 #39

Apparently reading the article isn't a thing EdmondDantes_ Jun 11 #40

I will believe until the day I die Grim Chieftain Jun 11 #41

Just as January 6 crowd believes that 2020 was stolen Jose Garcia Jun 12 #188

Oh, there is no comparison Grim Chieftain Jun 12 #189

It's actually the exact same thing, with the exact same silly conspiracy theories. tritsofme Jun 12 #200

I have heard that district voted 80% + for Gov. Hochul in 2022 Botany Jun 11 #43

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 11 #51

Elon frucked up on that one! C Moon Jun 11 #59

All 331 votes in obnoxiousdrunk Jun 11 #65

And there's the problem with conspiracy theories Sympthsical Jun 11 #68

Better tell the New York Supreme Court then questionseverything Jun 11 #91

That's not support for the conspiracies Sympthsical Jun 11 #92

To be fair to the Internet, conspiracy theories existed long before it EdmondDantes_ Jun 11 #121

You are leaving out the New York Supreme Court ordered the hand count questionseverything Jun 11 #156

You are basing that on a sentence in the Latin Times article that is simply wrong. onenote Jun 13 #218

My original reply was that evidence has been given which is still correct questionseverything Jun 13 #219

No, I'm vigilant about anyone sneaking in misinformation onenote Jun 13 #220

Voting statistic analysis anomalies angryxyouth Jun 11 #70

University of Michigan statistical analysis angryxyouth Jun 11 #83

Someone who orchestrated an insurrection, is Emile Jun 11 #75

Apparently MorbidButterflyTat Jun 12 #170

I don't buy that. greatauntoftriplets Jun 11 #77

Does anybody remember how the orange twerp said that he had a little.... Butterflylady Jun 11 #79

Ask 20 voters on the street if anyone voted for Harris. BidenRocks Jun 11 #84

Or put out a bulletin asking anyone Tree Lady Jun 11 #127

Well thats odd...... Historic NY Jun 11 #86

Ya right! Evolve Dammit Jun 11 #90

Unlikely that no votes there Nululu Jun 11 #96

Something isn't right. COL Mustard Jun 11 #103

Wouldn't this trigger a lawsuit, perhaps a class action, by registered democratic voters no_hypocrisy Jun 11 #105

Let's just say four of eLoon's engineers popped up and said, "we are part of the team that stole the 2024 election flashman13 Jun 11 #108

America is under siege. And it blows my mind that election officials haven't audited the results on their own ffr Jun 11 #132

Totally inaccurate headline. It NEEDS TO BE CHANGED! Wiz Imp Jun 11 #141

Thank you!! Yes, exactly this Random Boomer Jun 11 #147

The votes have been rigged since W was selected Farmer-Rick Jun 11 #159

It's Kool-Aid for the parched Ponietz Jun 11 #157

Question the voters Puppyjive Jun 11 #146

HAND RECOUNT - that is the purpose - why did it take so long??? RandomNumbers Jun 11 #161

Interesting. Martin68 Jun 11 #162

Sheesh. So many people here who can't seem to read. Wiz Imp Jun 11 #163

One could ask voters there if they would like to declare they voted for Harris. Sure to get more than, say, 7. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 12 #171

Bookmarking to read later. yellow dahlia Jun 12 #172

Where in Rockland County, Kiryas Joel?. HarryM Jun 12 #180

New Square New York onenote Jun 12 #182

Oopsies looks like loonie left a trail. Clouds Passing Jun 12 #185

Please correct this PFparks Jun 12 #190

This is interesting Snackshack Jun 12 #191

This is in Mike Lawler's district. legallyblondeNYC Jun 12 #196

Well... ROCKLAND COUNTY... what dya expect? Montauk6 Jun 12 #201

I can't find the news account online right now, but I saw the account of 2 women who started this recount BComplex Jun 13 #212