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H2O Man

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Fri May 22, 2026, 02:05 PM
Friday

I've been thinking about writing the actual story of the murderers that Rubin and John were falsely convicted of. There are a few good books, but there were things that couldn't be told until, well, everyone involved had died. The fellow with the shotgun, who Rubin was accused of being, confessed on his death bed, and named the late guy with the pistol.

There are still people in the boxing community who insist that Rubin was guilty. It is interesting to see their response to a few things. First, let's consider the murder of Malcolm X. Two men, dressed in suits, one with a shotgun, the other a pistol. The crime Rubin was convicted of had two men dressed in suits, one with a shotgun, the other with a pistol. Now, Rubin and John were not in the NOI, and were dressed differently than the murderers. The two that survived the shooting said it was not Rubin and John that night while they were in the hospital.

And that's just the beginning. The police had picked up the two actual gunmen that night. Both failed polygraphs, while Rubin and John passed their's. (I have the reports.) One was held in jail for a month. The other fled the state after being released. He had told his uncle, a well-known boxing referee, the truth before leaving. But witnesses for Rubin and John were threatened. One was held by police for a month in a hotel room, being pressured to lie.

I could go on and on.

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You ought to be a writer. cachukis Friday #1
Thank you! H2O Man Friday #2
If you have the time and enough typewriter ribbons. cachukis Friday #5
Any possibility -- this is kind of far-fetched -- that Rubin was framed to take him out of the boxing game? malthaussen Friday #19
Wow, hell of a story, good job! Walleye Friday #3
Thanks! H2O Man Friday #6
That's so interesting and sad. Shows how little we know of our own history. Walleye Friday #24
Waterman you are my idea of good people malaise Friday #4
Thank you! H2O Man Friday #7
Nailed it re the penal system malaise Friday #13
There are some H2O Man Friday #21
The cruelty sanctioned by the state in many countries is malaise Friday #27
"Less money invested in prisons?" I don't think so, Pat. malthaussen Friday #20
Not in my state. H2O Man Friday #22
That was an excellent read. You had a super cool experience becoming friends with Hurricane. 1WorldHope Friday #8
Thank you! H2O Man Friday #11
It is a pleasure to be here and read your wisdom. 1WorldHope Friday #23
Well, thank you! H2O Man Friday #29
A Truly Strong Man Kid Berwyn Friday #9
I have a NYT article H2O Man Friday #25
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Friday #10
Thank you! H2O Man Friday #26
Dylan flashman13 Friday #12
Great song! H2O Man Friday #30
I read this a few months ago. mgardener Friday #14
Beautiful! H2O Man Friday #31
Wonderful story, H2O Man! lastlib Friday #15
Thanks! H2O Man Friday #32
Thanks, Pat Easterncedar Friday #16
Thank you! H2O Man 20 hrs ago #33
Yes. It seems wrong. Easterncedar 20 hrs ago #36
K & R Recommended! FakeNoose Friday #17
Thanks! H2O Man 20 hrs ago #34
Wonderful, amazing and inspiring. people Friday #18
Thank you! H2O Man 20 hrs ago #35
I love your Rubin stories Saoirse9 Friday #28
Thank you! H2O Man 19 hrs ago #37
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