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JohnnyRingo

(20,875 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 03:44 PM Mar 2024

Now electric cars are political, and MAGAs hate them

DJT came out against them, but I think he's actually reflecting from his base on this one.

For months social media has been bombarded by big burly men who would never own an EV. In any posting about EVs they pop up to spout well worn talking points about how impractical they are, how they catch fire, and we don't have the infrastructure to maintain them anyway. If I didn't know better, I'd say the majority are AI bots scanning for key words and phrases to deliver their anti-EV rhetoric.

And it's caught on politically. Now most posts are from MAGAs blaming Joe Biden for "shoving them down our throats", as if he's in charge of what global auto manufacturers build. These Boomer MAGA knucleheads are demanding Detroit go back to building 1970 GTOs. "Because that's what people want".

And it seems to be working. After an enthusiastic start, EV sales have bottomed out recently with dealers refusing them, lest they grow old on the lot.
But who's washing those already bleached out brains of motorheads who'd rather die than give up the pump? Who would employ bots to ravage social media with lies and innuendo about clean emission automobiles? Who could it be? We'll probably never know.

There's a commercial that runs here during the late shows. It spews all the anti-EV points seen on Facebook and other sites, that there's no infrastructure and they are too dangerous to carry loved ones, and that Biden is forcing YOU to give up your car for an electric emasculating machine.



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Now electric cars are political, and MAGAs hate them (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Mar 2024 OP
Maybe we can redirect this to Comrade eLoon Muski Stinky The Clown Mar 2024 #1
I'm sorry. But I'm not getting one until infrastructure is there and it takes as long as filling gas jimfields33 Mar 2024 #32
Reminds me of when they claimed Obama was going to ban all cars except white ones. emulatorloo Mar 2024 #2
Screw the MAGAs. Such whinny a&& babies, on almost everything! Grow up, face life, and quit whining, SWBTATTReg Mar 2024 #3
Has anyone ever whined and cried as much as he? TSExile Mar 2024 #6
Now? This has been going on for years. Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #4
The choice is clear... ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2024 #5
Contrary to the press, EV sales have not "bottomed out" tinrobot Mar 2024 #7
Read an interview some time ago Diamond_Dog Mar 2024 #8
I also love how no one should have it then. Oneironaut Mar 2024 #20
They even try to spread that here on DU.... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #9
we are saturated with rw propaganda Voltaire2 Mar 2024 #11
Spot on. Xavier Breath Mar 2024 #14
I have had it happen to posts... Think. Again. Mar 2024 #16
I'm going to push back on that a bit. tinrobot Mar 2024 #22
Even if the OP is just a general statemetn about EV benefits DBoon Mar 2024 #15
Strange people are complaining about EV prices when the average car price is $47K kysrsoze Mar 2024 #33
That picture is right out of a "Saturday Night LIve"... keep_left Mar 2024 #10
Toyota is doing great on hybrids... But that includes a gasoline engine. keithbvadu2 Mar 2024 #12
Would you be happy if the vehicle you bought last month was now $8,000 cheaper? keithbvadu2 Mar 2024 #13
He's upset because the price of EVs went down? tinrobot Mar 2024 #23
Not so good if you're the guy who paid eight grand more. keithbvadu2 Mar 2024 #24
But good for all those who previously couldn't afford one tinrobot Mar 2024 #27
Yep. Prices go down with economy of scale when demand increases. keithbvadu2 Mar 2024 #28
They are stupid followers who can't think for themselves. Emile Mar 2024 #17
I guess they have an innate fear of electric chairs, which is a Big Word for them. GreenWave Mar 2024 #18
They're essentially idiots who do the dirty work of billionaires. Oneironaut Mar 2024 #19
Years ago... Tesla claimed the most commonly accessed URL on the Tesla in-car browser was DRUDGE WarGamer Mar 2024 #21
I own a Chevy Bolt, which I love Tom of Temecula Mar 2024 #25
EVs, CAFE standards, and a host of other things are political Kennah Mar 2024 #26
Another bomb threat made at Ford battery plant construction site Bayard Mar 2024 #29
They should run in the Shell Answer Guy. JohnnyRingo Mar 2024 #31
Not all Maga's Polybius Mar 2024 #30
It'll never not be funny to me Dorian Gray Mar 2024 #34
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
32. I'm sorry. But I'm not getting one until infrastructure is there and it takes as long as filling gas
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 01:01 AM
Mar 2024

I mean that’s not an unreasonable response. In fact, many Americans agree with this and not just MAGA. We’re looking at 20 years and electric cars will be the most cars drive .

SWBTATTReg

(26,259 posts)
3. Screw the MAGAs. Such whinny a&& babies, on almost everything! Grow up, face life, and quit whining,
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 03:51 PM
Mar 2024

it's not becoming.

God, no wonder I don't want the likes of tRUMP the whinner in chief ever close to the WH again. I'm so sick and tired of his constant, nonstop whining. Aren't we all?

Just shut up!

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
4. Now? This has been going on for years.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 03:51 PM
Mar 2024

The funny part is these clowns desperately trying to hate EVs and love Musk at the same time.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,901 posts)
5. The choice is clear...
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 03:52 PM
Mar 2024

B*tch about rising gas prices and rising car maintenance costs or go electric.

Many of my Progressive friends are driving Hybrids or EVs. As far as car payments, not much difference from what they were driving then.

tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
7. Contrary to the press, EV sales have not "bottomed out"
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 03:54 PM
Mar 2024

We sold more EVs in 2023 than 2022, a record 1.2 million. We'll also sell more in 2024 than 2023.

The only thing that's "slowing" is the rate of increase. Part of that may be people's reluctance to buy EVs for whatever reason, some of it may be high interest rates impacting the auto industry as a whole. Who knows.

But overall, EV sales are still going up. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Diamond_Dog

(40,589 posts)
8. Read an interview some time ago
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 03:56 PM
Mar 2024

Reporter asked woman why she wasn’t in favor of EVs, and her reply was “I don’t want a truck that’s quiet! I want a truck that goes vroom vroom!”

That’s some deep reasoning, there…

Oneironaut

(6,301 posts)
20. I also love how no one should have it then.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 06:38 PM
Mar 2024

Not just her. Everyone must follow their fetish.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
9. They even try to spread that here on DU....
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 03:58 PM
Mar 2024
"In any posting about EVs they pop up to spout well worn talking points about how impractical they are, how they catch fire, and we don't have the infrastructure to maintain them anyway."


It seems every time I post about some new advancement or a debunking of EV myths, I get immediate and multiple responses that try to appear reasonable, but are obviously intended to chill readers on the idea of EV's.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
11. we are saturated with rw propaganda
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 04:44 PM
Mar 2024

all of us are bombarded by it. We subsume it and internalize it and it sprouts up out of our anxieties.

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
14. Spot on.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 05:10 PM
Mar 2024

I came here to say exactly this. Every time an EV-related article gets posted it's full of nay-sayer posters who swear they're all for EVs but, gosh, they're just not practical right now.

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
16. I have had it happen to posts...
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 05:36 PM
Mar 2024

...about practically every type of non-CO2 emitting energy technology.

tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
22. I'm going to push back on that a bit.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 09:46 PM
Mar 2024

They are practical if you can afford them and can charge at home. I've owned 5 EVs since I bought my first one in 2010, and it's a great way to drive. I'll never go back to gas. But then, I can afford a $40-50K vehicle and I have a house with a garage. Not everyone has those resources.

So, if someone says they're not practical because they're too expensive or there's not enough charging - I'll believe them.

We need to get prices down and we need a LOT more charging before everyone can buy and drive one. We are getting very close, hopefully EVs will get to that tipping point within the next few years.

DBoon

(24,989 posts)
15. Even if the OP is just a general statemetn about EV benefits
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 05:18 PM
Mar 2024

I will see multiple posters complain about their price, swear they will never be forced to buy one, and bring up all kinds of hypothetical EV failures.

kysrsoze

(6,446 posts)
33. Strange people are complaining about EV prices when the average car price is $47K
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 03:03 AM
Mar 2024

Prices are dropping, there are generous tax rebates and the cost of powering them is much less than gas. Much less maintenance as well. People who claim they’re too expensive don’t understand math. A gas powered car is also 50 times more likely to catch fire than a EV. The only valid argument against them is when people live in a very cold climate and can’t charge at home.

Once solid state batteries hit the market and infrastructure build-out matures, gas/diesel cars will phase out. China and India have also mandated the switch. It’s a done deal.

keep_left

(3,211 posts)
10. That picture is right out of a "Saturday Night LIve"...
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 04:18 PM
Mar 2024

...cold open. Americans--the MAGA chud variety of them, at least--must be the most gullible people in the world. There it is on the damn TV screen, and they still fall for it!

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
12. Toyota is doing great on hybrids... But that includes a gasoline engine.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 05:02 PM
Mar 2024

Toyota is doing great on hybrids... But that includes a gasoline engine.

https://www.youtube.com/live/vLrchwxCzNc?si=fWQICN2DFQ7QYrLn

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
13. Would you be happy if the vehicle you bought last month was now $8,000 cheaper?
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 05:03 PM
Mar 2024

Would you be happy if the vehicle you bought last month was now $8,000 cheaper?

Electric vehicles. Price cuts. Depreciation...

tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
23. He's upset because the price of EVs went down?
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 09:51 PM
Mar 2024

I bet two months ago, he was saying they were too expensive.

Last time I checked, lower prices are generally a good thing.

tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
27. But good for all those who previously couldn't afford one
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 10:46 PM
Mar 2024

Which would be most people.

Early adopters usually pay more when it comes to new technology. Part of the deal.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
28. Yep. Prices go down with economy of scale when demand increases.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 11:06 PM
Mar 2024

In this case, prices go down in a desperate ploy to create demand.

GreenWave

(12,641 posts)
18. I guess they have an innate fear of electric chairs, which is a Big Word for them.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 06:01 PM
Mar 2024

so we reduce chairs to cars,

Oneironaut

(6,301 posts)
19. They're essentially idiots who do the dirty work of billionaires.
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 06:36 PM
Mar 2024

In this case, it’s fossil fuel executives.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
21. Years ago... Tesla claimed the most commonly accessed URL on the Tesla in-car browser was DRUDGE
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 07:32 PM
Mar 2024

And that's BEFORE Drudge went to the Left...

I don't think the Tesla has ever been an icon of the Left.

 

Tom of Temecula

(1,632 posts)
25. I own a Chevy Bolt, which I love
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 10:30 PM
Mar 2024

I made a bumpersticker that reads "Why Would I Care What You Think?"

When people tailgate me I slow down so that they can read it.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
26. EVs, CAFE standards, and a host of other things are political
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 10:44 PM
Mar 2024

Doesn't mean there aren't issues to be addressed: cost, batteries (chemistry, supply, recycling), infrastructure

Bayard

(29,710 posts)
29. Another bomb threat made at Ford battery plant construction site
Sat Mar 2, 2024, 11:17 PM
Mar 2024

GLENDALE, Ky. —
A second threat similar to another the week prior has been made at a construction site in Hardin County.

According to Hardin County Deputy Sheriff David Lee, around 10 a.m. on Thursday, a threat was found written on the wall of a port-a-potty on the BlueOval SK construction site in Glendale. The building has been evacuated, but employees were not told to leave the property and a search of the building was handled internally by plant officials.

Deputies say BlueOval called back around noon saying they found a "device," a bag with wires coming out of it attached to electronic equipment. When the device was found, police say the company sent employees home. Hardin County Sheriff's Office and Kentucky State Police responded to the report. A bomb expert determined the wiring was part of Christmas tree lights and the device was not a threat. Officials then gave the "all clear" for the facility.

Just last week, nearly the same threat was made. A message was found on a porta-potty inspection sheet that said a bomb would go off that day. Nothing was found. The EV battery park project in Glendale is the largest economic development project in Kentucky history. Side-by-side plants will make batteries for Ford vehicles. The $5.8 billion investment from parent companies Ford and SK will create 5,000 jobs in the state. Production is scheduled to begin next year.

https://www.wlky.com/article/bomb-threat-blue-oval-construction-kentucky-ford-plant/60027288


Someone is really hating EVs here, and apparently hanging out in porta-cans a lot.

JohnnyRingo

(20,875 posts)
31. They should run in the Shell Answer Guy.
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 12:01 AM
Mar 2024

He was a propaganda spouting character on old Shell commercials.
I don't know what he's doing these days, but they should maybe talk to him. haha

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
34. It'll never not be funny to me
Sun Mar 3, 2024, 07:19 AM
Mar 2024

that Elon Musk is all in with the Republicans and this is the thanks he gets.

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