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BWdem4life

(3,003 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:20 PM Apr 2024

Lie of the century by NYT chief WH correspondent

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/25/new-york-times-biden-white-house-00154219

The Times’ chief White House correspondent, Peter Baker, whose stories about Biden’s age have regularly strummed a particularly sensitive nerve, told me that the administration’s frustrations over his and his colleagues’ coverage wasn’t all that unique. “Every White House I’ve covered complains about our coverage. It comes with the territory,” he said. “But because of Trump, there’s this new assumption that the New York Times and other media are supposed to put their thumb on the scale and take sides and we don’t do that.”


1. The paper legitimized Hunter Biden allegations that never showed a scintilla of evidence, pushed by Fox "News" and Trump supporters. Why? In what way was this fit for the NYT to print?

2. Publisher A.G. Sulzberger essentially claims that until he gets a sit-down interview with Biden, Biden is presumed to be unfit to be president due to nothing other than his age. This is reflected in their coverage.

3. The paper treats Trump with kid gloves to the extent that there's a widely followed account called "NYT Pitchbot" devoted to their soft coverage of Trump and their negative coverage of Biden.


But oh no, the Times isn't putting their thumb on the scale... and for the pettiest of reasons to boot. The Times doesn't care about America's future, that much is clear.
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Lie of the century by NYT chief WH correspondent (Original Post) BWdem4life Apr 2024 OP
That rag of fascist apologist paper should die. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #1
The NYT is the Pravda of the American oligarchy dalton99a Apr 2024 #7
Not good enough for fish wrap or bird cage. Cha Apr 2024 #10
I have more respect for the Wall Street Journal dalton99a Apr 2024 #12
Agreed Ishoutandscream2 Apr 2024 #38
But her emails. betsuni Apr 2024 #2
And clouds and shadows... Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2024 #18
They're not putting their thumbs on the scale--- lastlib Apr 2024 #3
No Democrat should spend a dime on a newspaper that routinely produces fake news against Democrats and glorifies fascism dalton99a Apr 2024 #4
"produces fake news" brooklynite Apr 2024 #9
Evidence from where? No specific newspaper was mentioned by the poster. littlemissmartypants Apr 2024 #19
Where do you want me to start? NanaCat Apr 2024 #24
Vince Foster's suicide. OMGWTF Apr 2024 #27
This one where Reporter wrote totally false articles IbogaProject Apr 2024 #40
Fuck your "scale" metaphor. Try just telling the truth. enki23 Apr 2024 #5
Peter Baker... 2naSalit Apr 2024 #6
Yup. Every time I see that jerk on the tube... thenelm1 Apr 2024 #32
Love the irony... brooklynite Apr 2024 #8
No, I used Politico to reproduce a quote from Peter Baker. nt BWdem4life Apr 2024 #13
And I post articles from Politico reporting on news frequently. You know what the general reaction is in these parts. brooklynite Apr 2024 #29
NYT chief WH Propagandist. Cha Apr 2024 #11
And that is exactly why DENVERPOPS Apr 2024 #14
So, they SHOULD put their thumbs on the scale? maxsolomon Apr 2024 #15
They should take their thumbs off the scale Bev54 Apr 2024 #20
So, what Peter Baker said? maxsolomon Apr 2024 #22
Peter Baker is disingenuous, he is one of the NYtimes reporters that has disparaged Biden Bev54 Apr 2024 #33
I thought the "Lie of the Century" was that Saddam had WMD JoseBalow Apr 2024 #16
It keeps changing. The century's not very old, after all. malthaussen Apr 2024 #39
Baker is a hack's hack malaise Apr 2024 #17
Anyone that still has a subscription...do you question why? PortTack Apr 2024 #21
Why I still have a subscription? maxsolomon Apr 2024 #23
Answer: no. brooklynite Apr 2024 #31
Let's not forget they NYTimes breaking the Whitewater story by falling for every... JHB Apr 2024 #25
Let's not forget the NYTimes breaking the Trump tax returns stories.... brooklynite Apr 2024 #30
We don't. But what part of that was exaggerated and misleading? JHB Apr 2024 #34
I expect he actually believes that. soldierant Apr 2024 #26
Has anyone seen evidence of claim #2? ramen Apr 2024 #28
Mouse Boy says what? Wild blueberry Apr 2024 #35
The "journalistic middle" is complicit. hay rick Apr 2024 #36
Not much different than the National Inquirer Blue Owl Apr 2024 #37

dalton99a

(94,140 posts)
12. I have more respect for the Wall Street Journal
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:53 PM
Apr 2024

The Wall Street Journal puts its bullshit and propaganda in the editorial section

The New York Times puts its bullshit and propaganda on the front page as NEWS



lastlib

(28,277 posts)
3. They're not putting their thumbs on the scale---
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:26 PM
Apr 2024

they're putting their whole damn fist! And calling it fucking news!

dalton99a

(94,140 posts)
4. No Democrat should spend a dime on a newspaper that routinely produces fake news against Democrats and glorifies fascism
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:30 PM
Apr 2024

littlemissmartypants

(33,631 posts)
19. Evidence from where? No specific newspaper was mentioned by the poster.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:37 PM
Apr 2024

It appears to be a general hypothetical statement.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
24. Where do you want me to start?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:11 PM
Apr 2024

Whitewater

Troopergate

Filegate

Travelgate

Al Gore 'inventing the internet'

Iraq having WMDs

Swift Boat lies

Benghazi

Hillary's emails

Clinton Cash

And not to mention ignoring the many crimes TSF carried out right under their very noses but that they somehow couldn'tever see. Repeatedly.

Maybe you don't know what credible evidence looks like, but the rest of us do.

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
40. This one where Reporter wrote totally false articles
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 05:47 PM
Apr 2024

They have a history of occasionally producing skewed reports. A simple one was the false claim that LSD broke chromosomes, their cited the opposite and the retraction was stuck deep on a quiet day. It still gets cited even though it's false.

Here is a selected list.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_New_York_Times_controversies

Here is the guy who basically wrote fiction.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayson_Blair#:~:text=Jayson%20Thomas%20Blair%20(born%20March,and%20plagiarism%20in%20his%20stories.&text=Columbia%2C%20Maryland%2C%20U.S.

2naSalit

(102,804 posts)
6. Peter Baker...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 06:39 PM
Apr 2024

Lost all credibility with me a couple years ago. I don't think much of Susan Glasser either.

thenelm1

(912 posts)
32. Yup. Every time I see that jerk on the tube...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:19 PM
Apr 2024

I immediately change the channel. Completely worthless.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
29. And I post articles from Politico reporting on news frequently. You know what the general reaction is in these parts.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:13 PM
Apr 2024

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
14. And that is exactly why
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:04 PM
Apr 2024

everyone I know has cancelled their on line subscription to the NYT this past month............

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
15. So, they SHOULD put their thumbs on the scale?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:08 PM
Apr 2024

Or they're putting their thumbs on the scale already, but for Trump?

#3: NYT Pitchbot account isn't exclusively a reaction to their Trump coverage - which is consistently negative and not "kid glove". It's a parody of how they "play it down the middle".

But don't let that stand in the way of today's 10th DU OP rant about the NYT.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
22. So, what Peter Baker said?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:07 PM
Apr 2024

I just did a search on the NYT for "Biden Age". Most articles that come up are Op-Eds, from French, Bruni, Blow, and guest columnists. Only French's was negative and that's little surprise.

All news reporting is clustered around the Hur Report release: Feb 8, 9, 10, and then on March 8 & 9 had articles about Trump attacking Biden's age. Probably legitimate to address his age then, since Hur made a BFD about it.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
33. Peter Baker is disingenuous, he is one of the NYtimes reporters that has disparaged Biden
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:48 PM
Apr 2024

and tiviolized Trump's crime wave and Russian connections. That is putting his thumb on the scale.

malthaussen

(18,572 posts)
39. It keeps changing. The century's not very old, after all.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 05:12 PM
Apr 2024

And if it weren't for hyperbole, rags like the NYT would have nothing to say.

-- Mal

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
31. Answer: no.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:19 PM
Apr 2024

My wife and I have had a 7-day subscription since 1979. Still top of the line news reporting. Whether I like the story or not.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
25. Let's not forget they NYTimes breaking the Whitewater story by falling for every...
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:17 PM
Apr 2024

...horseshit rumor about Clinton spread around Little Rock by the same people who, years earlier, had been part of the white Citizens Council crowd, and other assorted grifters and opportunists.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
34. We don't. But what part of that was exaggerated and misleading?
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 06:18 AM
Apr 2024

What part of that amounted to a respected news organization being led by its own pretensions to serve as a vehicle for a smear campaign?

It was a phenomena hardly restricted to the NYT. Recall the New Republic's "Clinton suck-up watch".

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
26. I expect he actually believes that.
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 08:18 PM
Apr 2024

Because he believees (as do too many others) that making "both sides" look, if not the same, at least equivalent, is being "fair."

He doesn't realize that kind of fairness is not his job. The job of a journalist is to report the truth.

That is what we need to eliminate in jouralism, not just him. He's just one of many.

ramen

(862 posts)
28. Has anyone seen evidence of claim #2?
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 09:13 PM
Apr 2024

I've seen a quote from a reporter alleging this but no reaction from the subject and no confirmation or denial from them.

hay rick

(9,605 posts)
36. The "journalistic middle" is complicit.
Fri Apr 26, 2024, 10:52 AM
Apr 2024

The article on Sulzberger:

In Sulzberger’s view, according to two people familiar with his private comments on the subject, only an interview with a paper like the Times can verify that the 81-year-old Biden is still fit to hold the presidency.

Sulzberger is living in the past. The Times may be first in reach and influence for its elite readership, but those same readers have a plethora of other sources available.
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