Dem leadership plan was to wait until 2026 until voters cried ......

[leftgirl]

sad to say .....but looks like this was their plan - the senate dems were all voting for Trump cabinet secretary nominees........
or at least some of them.......

someone on here posted list of 15 dem senators that voted for Treasury secretary....who immed turned around
to give Musk access to payment info

what did klobuchar say ....will work with them where we can .....a sentiment shared by many ...not just her
....total capitulation by all of them....

where are the dems trying to get courts to stop musk..........their big effort is to attend rallies
that voters have organized......wow....what leaders

until Dem Voters piped up and shouted .....there was no urgency or plan.....

trump sent in MUSK because he knew he could.........and get away with it.....that's how
transparent the Dem weakness is......

Schumer and Hakeem - wow.....go along to get along..
Harris, Obama, Pelosi.......Biden......crickets!!! anyone still awake ...?

still no plan ....... they attend rallies that voters put together.....
they are reacting .....not being pro-active .......no offense being organized .....only defense and minimal
at that.....unless they're keeping it a secret .......

these dems might be ok when no one is rocking the boat but most of them are not
the people/reps/senators for the moment ...........

sadly Dem politicians are not fighters , nor are they messengers

voters want fighters.......which is part of reason they voted for Trump........

Biden only gave press conferences like once every 3 or 4 months if that....and very few
actually campaigned until a couple months before election

Although Biden did very excellent work behind the scenes......the public never knew
what he did for them.......... communication is part of the job and trump excels at that
though lies they may be ....but he gives a message over and over so that everyone knows
what he is about .......

I see no real pushback from any of the dem leadership other than slogans and shouting stuff at rallies that
they did not organize ................

still waiting for the dem cavalry!! think I'll take a nap till 2026 ........not sure I'll find a USA that I recognize when I awaken .......

the dem cavalry should include Digital platform(s) of some type that reaches everyone and posts progress so
voters know what the heck is going on for them........... and include alot of young tech savy dems who are
trying to get into leadership roles but instead are pushed aside for seniority to old timers who are used to
their perks and won't change their ways...... no change? no win!!!

can't they at least hire a smart young marketing firm to do this ??? and centralize new modern messaging ?
create platforms ??

[Walleye]

1. To the Democratic legislatures. Do not play ball with these criminals. Say no to everything. It's not that difficult.

[NotHardly]

49. I hope, pray that they wake the f*ck up before we drown.

[gab13by13]

2. Hold town halls now

Organize the people to fight back.

Do not assume we will be saved by the courts, the courts are slow moving and we need to act now.

[JI7]

3. Fight back how ?

[ck4829]

9. Maybe the question should be "Not fight back how?"

[AZSkiffyGeek]

10. Listen exclusively to Republican pundits and Putin agents for advice

That's been the MO since 2021.

[Think. Again.]

31. Widespread, ongoing, Economic Boycott.

[c-rational]

35. Loudly and viscerally vocal. Repipition works.

[Tootbsb]

4. Look at public disclosures. It would be eye opening.

[GusBob]

5. Oh let's play nice!

Dem Leadership has been caught flat-footed since the then president in 2015 glad handled the Russian interference stuff

[GoreWon2000]

37. They've been caught flat footed since 2000

when they let W steal the 2000 Presidential election that disenfranchised millions of voters who have now given up on democracy.

[berksdem]

6. the part I can't seem to get my head around

is the fact that it appears there was no Plan B in the event we did lose the election. Plan C was a failure since it looks like the leadership group sat on their collective hands after the election and had no path forward to fight once the Dotard was sworn into office.

At this point I am not sure how we get out of this nightmare. It really has put a dark cloud over the dem party in my own mind. It is only going to get worse from here and it appears we are just rolling over. Yes, Town Halls are great but these needed to happen well before the inauguration. It is getting to the point where I know lifelong Dems that are switching to Independent in my home state of PA which is not a good thing.

[Alice B.]

18. Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying it, too.

I can't get my head around it either and it is one of my biggest disappointments in our party and elected leaders. Did they not believe their own hype throughout the election?

What? No worst case scenario exercises? I live in a college town where there have been some events that have gotten out of control. Ever since, there's been a bunch of local government types and "stakeholders" on a committee that seem to get off on doing annual tabletop exercises to prep for the possibility partiers might spill into the streets and couches set ablaze. They've been annually disappointed in recent years but, boy, do they look forward to the planning and press conferences talking about how prepared they are.

If we get out of this pickle, I want to know the next generation of leaders is prepared to not just represent us, but look out for, protect us, too! Competently.

The other side does it for their people.

[berksdem]

19. Amen to everything you wrote!

upvote 1000x!!

[Alice B.]

23. *face is bright red*

[Arazi]

29. Yup. If even we knew about Project 2025 and their blitzkrieg plans

To assault our democratic institutions on Day One (he vowed to be a dictator on Day One, nobody can claim they didn’t know), why do they appear to be off to such a slow start?

They should have been making plans to become an opposition party immediately after Harris conceded.

I admit it’s got me in a bad headspace with Dem leadership too.

[berksdem]

33. All great questions my friend...

I wish I knew the answers.

[GoreWon2000]

39. Well said.

They've been doing this since 2000 when they let W steal the 2000 election from Al Gore and disenfranchise millions of Americans who've now given up on democracy.. The tRump/Musk portion of this has been 25 years in the making.

[quakerboy]

54. how do you fight back

When all parts of government and most of commerce are eager accomplices

Executive.. obvi.
Scotus.. completely compromised
Press.. owned by accomplices
Senate: overwhelming majority r
House: controlled by a united maga.
Governors: majority maga
State legislatures: majority maga

[valleyrogue]

7. Trash Democrats and let Republicans off the hook.

Yes, that is REALLY constructive.

[berksdem]

20. While trashing Dems is not the way to

go... we seriously, as a party, need to look in the fucking mirror b/c at the end of the day this was a monumental failure by the leadership of the party. Full stop.

[The Wandering Harper]

21. remember when Obama said it's up to YOU to hold me accountable?

if we can't be self-critical, we can't fix our flaws, and we lose

[Lochloosa]

27. The Truth is hard to swallow sometimes.

[Think. Again.]

32. Yes, we must trash everyone who failed us...

...so we don't rely on them again.

[FoxNewsSucks]

40. It's not "trashing", and no one is unaware that republicons are the problem

Inaction lets republicons get away with their shit. They count on it, and improve their dirty tricks

[GoreWon2000]

48. Dem leadership has let repugs off the hook for 25 years

They let W steal the 2000 election from Al Gore and acted like it was a normal election which it wasn't. Then they ran the same Bush anti-democracy coup against Biden during the 2024 dem party Presidential primary while trying to claim that the dem party was the party protecting democracy. The dem party leadership has allowed the broad daylight disenfranchisement of millions of American voters. This has caused millions of Americans to give up on democracy and vote for a dictator

[Prairie Gates]

53. I noticed that too

[W_HAMILTON]

60. LOL, your post was a magnet for the sub-1000 post posters.

Count me as another one that thinks this constant criticism of Democrats only serves to empower Republicans. It happened before the election and we saw the results, and people are now blaming Democrats -- who are completely out of power, thanks to the voters themselves -- for not stopping Republicans from doing things Democrats have little to no power to stop them from doing.

I'm all for DU getting back to its root and supporting Democrats rather than seeing some new posters constantly criticize them while never posting a negative thing about Republicans (have you checked their posting history? I have...).

[delisen]

8. The reality is it is up to us, the citizens to maintain Democracy

The Representative part of our Representative Democracy has stumbled. We must lead until it regains its footing.

[valleyrogue]

11. In the end, it is ALL on us.

I think we are having an impact. Our elected officials can keep informing us of what is happening.

We KNOW Trump is the distraction, and the REAL menace is Musk, Thiel, and the P25 crowd.

[delisen]

13. Exactly,

[Dlpger61]

14. African Americans

African American women voted 92% for the Democratic Nominee for President

African American men voted 87% for the Democratic Nominee for President

We are tired of having to deal with the ignorance of the majority of the people in this country.

No longer are we including ourselves in the us, IT IS ON YALL to convince your family members, friends, co-workers that they have been BAMBOOZLED.

[Solomon]

45. Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[delisen]

12. Representatives are not sports teams; citizens are not fans, cheerleaders

That spectator Sports model is doomed to failure because the world is full of anti-democracy actors.

The more aroused and active we are, the more empowered our legal representatives.

We must build and present the vision, set the course, and choose our captains and crew.

Fortunately we have many talented representatives who will rise to the occasion.

Some will not and they can be dealt with in upcoming election cycles.

[BeyondGeography]

15. Because Biden ignoring Trump for the first year of his presidency worked so well.

[bigtree]

16. link?

...this is a lie.

[tritsofme]

17. Blah blah blah *Whine about Democrats not Republicans** Blah blah blah

So sick of this “attack Democrats” bullshit, it is pure nonsense.

We are playing with a shitty hand, and bringing the fight.

[malaise]

22. Huh.

You know this how?

[stillcool]

26. just look at all the links, all the sources

it's not even good fiction, but whatever...makes me question every post...which is a good thing.

[BannonsLiver]

24. WTH is this sentence structure?

Holy ellipses Batman!

[Intractable]

38. The smart phone will eventually kill the English language.

[Tommy Carcetti]

46. Ellipses were buy-one, get-one down at the Walmart? nt

Last edited Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:46 PM - Edit history (1)

[BannonsLiver]

47. Ha!

[republianmushroom]

25. Dem leadership has a concept of a plan (well maybe).

Wait for it.

They still haven't learned. Maybe someday they will.

[Dlpger61]

59. What is the lesson to be learned

Please expound on the lesson Democrats must learn. Democrats did not vote for a convicted felony to occupy the White House. They did not vote for a person that was responsible for the deaths of over 1 million people during the Covid Pandemic. They did not vote for a person that lies every time he opens his mouth, or is an adjudicated rapist.

Democrats believe that everyone should have the opportunity to progress in this life. Democrats do not push HATRED as their MAIN SUBJECT, that WHITE PEOPLE are superior to non-white people.

So tell us what lessons should they learn that it is better to promote hatred of your fellow Americans, or that lying is the way you get over in life, that corruption is okay??

[Think. Again.]

28. We can't rely on past methods anymore...

...if we wait until 2026 to remove them, it'll be over before voting begins.

It's up to us, and I believe our safest bet is a major, ongoing, economic boycott.

[dalton99a]

30. FWIW 'Why Don't Democrats Fight Fire With Fire?' Three Opinion Writers on a Wounded Party (NYT)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/opinion/democratic-party-donald-trump.html

https://archive.ph/z3Yhd

‘Why Don’t Democrats Fight Fire With Fire?’ Three Opinion Writers on a Wounded Party
Feb. 6, 2025, 5:03 a.m. ET


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The political correctness movement / language police turned people off and did immense damage to Democrats

[TRHST82]

51. Michelle Goldberg gets it.

I'm mixed on the others. Bret Stephens is someone still blaming "identity politics." I'm glad they rightly pointed out that most Democrats don't put niche/social issues front-and-center. Give it a rest.

[TRHST82]

55. I see that Bret Stephens is conservative - so that makes sense.

But even some liberals/Democrats give in to conservative narratives about niche/social issues.

[Blue Full Moon]

34. Fascists always infiltrate both parties

To try to control the outcome

[Flux]

36. Let the new generation represent...

I know some of you might take issue with me for not having a stronger presence here, but I’ve been a paid member for years (since the site first launched) and left right after the hack in November 2015, just after Trump was elected.

That said, I've been noticing a troubling trend where some of you seem hesitant to let younger voices take the reins. It's disappointing to see. By dismissing voices like AOC or Jasmine Crockett as "too young," you’re effectively reinforcing the same old patterns and giving the establishment a pass. The younger generation should already be the face and the voice of the party. Frankly, this should’ve happened yesterday, but some of you still insist they need to "pay their dues." Enough of that.

We sat on our hands in 2016 by running Hillary. I know you’ll cut me off and tell me it was "her turn," and how she was great for the party. I get that. But as someone who’s been a long-time member and lurker, a Gen Xer, and someone who lives in a red state, I’ll tell you—Hillary was tainted by the '90s, and no amount of campaigning was going to change that. Yes, I voted for her, but I knew even back then that we were fighting an uphill battle because of the baggage she carried.

We had a real chance with Bernie Sanders, and though I know he’s not the favorite here, I truly believe we'd be in a much better place today if we’d backed him. What really struck me as disappointing was seeing how many of you shot down a poster just yesterday for advocating for young leadership. You even told him to post about it elsewhere—like in the “A Way Forward” forum that was recently set up.

People, wake up. The only ones who can really push back and fight the fight effectively are the younger generation. They understand how the game is played in today’s political landscape. It’s time for the current leadership to step aside and make way for the future.

Here's something we should all watch. I cannot post it in video yet so I will post it here.

?si=24ZUW9ZodhkTFDTs

[mike_c]

61. 100% agree with everything you wrote

[CaptainTruth]

41. FYI currently 35 legal cases against Trump administration.

According to the Just Security litigation tracker.

https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-legal-challenges-trump-administration-actions/

[LymphocyteLover]

43. There are Dems who are messaging well and they need your support!

Now is not the time to give up on the country OR the Dems!

[Sogo]

44. I can't believe anyone is recommending this sh!t.

Get lost. Stop trying to divide Dems.

That is all.

[PaulRevere08]

50. Too busy making sure their portfolios are not impacted.

[Prairie Gates]

52. "it looks like this..." So, your entire post is speculative and without substance

Not great.

[Dawson Leery]

56. kick

[The Wandering Harper]

57. it's astounding

to me it looked like they were either over-confident (again) and turned milquetoast after losing,
or, gods (and us) help us, the people who say the two parties are just two wings of the same bird
aren't wrong

[OrlandoDem2]

58. THE NEW SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF LIBERTY!

That is the name that those of us who are sane should take.

Fuck the Tea Party!

We are the New Sons and Daughters of Liberty and we ought to be flooding town halls, the offices of our Congresspeople, Senators, etc. We need to wrap ourselves in the Red, White, and Blue and demand FREEDOM for ourselves!

We need to not be afraid to rally around Old Glory and protest the GOP into oblivion! We can’t wait on politicians. This has to be People Power, Social Media Power, Grass Roots, etc!

The New Sons and Daughters of Liberty harkens to our country’s founding! Americans like it when other people and their leaders are patriotic. The Left needs to take the banner and run!! It is time!!