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leftgirl

(44 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:40 PM Feb 2025

ENDGAME....has anyone on Dem side followed the bread crumbs as to why MUSK is dismantling US govt

I've seen myriad articles on what trump and musk are doing is fascist and illegal and wrong ......etc.

either someone or some group or some country is getting something big from this......

I guess I'm asking does anyone know or have read or have theories of what the END GAME to this attack might be ???

who is the immediate beneficiary from a weak, feckless US ....a paper tiger with no more teeth

trump is able to ride rough shod over US without Musk doing this..........sp then why did he cut MUSK Loose to
do this....??? Trump already has republicans in his pocket to rubber stamp anything he wants ....
so again, why is MUSK doing this

so why is MUSK gutting with no regard to function ......... he he neutering the US so someone
or some country can ::
- either attack us Militarily
- show other countries how pathetically weak we are....and they can see this real time when no one in
US seems to be able to fight back
- show other countries where the weaknesses/ faults are for future use

is it CHINA with whom Musk has tons contracts...........?? Does have something to do with STARLINK....

Is it just ELON's narcissism to show how powerful he is....that he can single handedly dismantle the US govt..??

what about folks at project 2025 and heritage group ....what do they get out of this ???

there are lots smart folks speaking out and there must be folks in intelligence or investigative or
foreign commerce jobs that see things that have given them food for thought as to MOTIVE!!!!

I've only seen articles on what is going wrong ....but there are no coherent theories as to WHY this is occurring
and what these entities hope to achieve when this GUT JOB is done with

this seems like someone declared war on the US....... and since they didn't use a bomb or bullets....
there is no cohesive/coherent response....... How does a country not recognize when someone has declared war....?
maybe it's because we really don't know who declared war ...... so not treated as such ......

BREADCRUMBS = who is Musk/Trump doing this for ??? and why....

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ENDGAME....has anyone on Dem side followed the bread crumbs as to why MUSK is dismantling US govt (Original Post) leftgirl Feb 2025 OP
He obviously doesn't expect to be able to roam around the streets freely. Baitball Blogger Feb 2025 #1
Trump only does what's good for Trump, and NameAlreadyTaken Feb 2025 #2
I...haven't....seen....much....explanation .......yet....on...the. Endgame.. BannonsLiver Feb 2025 #3
Feb 14 GENERAL STRIKE! NO WORK, NO BUY, NO PAY BILLS Bluethroughu Feb 2025 #4
They're doing it because they want the U.S. to be a fascist, white ethnostate. LudwigPastorius Feb 2025 #5
Privatization of all government functions Ocelot II Feb 2025 #6
+1 leftstreet Feb 2025 #9
Company town idea, at the national level. Bluethroughu Feb 2025 #15
One intention is to dismantle the federal government. Voltaire2 Feb 2025 #7
That just a symptom with a band aid. Bluethroughu Feb 2025 #11
They have a debt to China, Russia, and any other Bluethroughu Feb 2025 #8
Talking Points Memo is saying gab13by13 Feb 2025 #10
It will end in Florence ADX, Terre Haute, or the 1960s solution. valleyrogue Feb 2025 #12
Taliban envy Tadams01KC Feb 2025 #13
I'm interested in throwing sand into the gears. Duncan Grant Feb 2025 #14
Yep! Bluethroughu Feb 2025 #16
Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #17
Hmmm...Did you take a wrong turn? GP6971 Feb 2025 #19
RW Libertarian wet dreams... What they wanted JCMach1 Feb 2025 #18
The tech oligarchs see themselves as the next evolution of global governance meadowlander Feb 2025 #20

Baitball Blogger

(52,354 posts)
1. He obviously doesn't expect to be able to roam around the streets freely.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:43 PM
Feb 2025

Remember he built that doomsday shelter for himself and his family members. Not the smartest thing to do, because if he does destroy America, we'll always know where to find him.

NameAlreadyTaken

(2,302 posts)
2. Trump only does what's good for Trump, and
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:43 PM
Feb 2025

Musk only does what's good for Musk. Hopefully someday soon, these two goals will clash and there will be a nasty power struggle that helps end all this madness.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
4. Feb 14 GENERAL STRIKE! NO WORK, NO BUY, NO PAY BILLS
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:46 PM
Feb 2025

Until this fascist regime resigns trump, Elon, vance, and republicans rooting this on!

Military needs to take control where the DOJ HAS FAILED!

THROW THAT HEGSETH IN A CELL WITH A BOTTLE OF BOOZE AND A STRIPPER.

LudwigPastorius

(14,732 posts)
5. They're doing it because they want the U.S. to be a fascist, white ethnostate.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:46 PM
Feb 2025

And, if they just so happen to get even richer in the process...BONUS.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
15. Company town idea, at the national level.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:57 PM
Feb 2025

Groups of slaves earning the private money from the company, buttcoin, to pay for company owned homes, food, and healthcare.
Indentured seritude!

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
7. One intention is to dismantle the federal government.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:49 PM
Feb 2025

Another major intent is to free up the 4T they need to both keep the current Oligarch Tax Breaks and pile on New Improved Oligarch Tax Breaks.

And a third aim is to eliminate congress as a power center.

The fascist techbro oligarchs have a vision of what is described as 'techno-feudalism' where nation states are deconstructed into patchworks of neo-feudal mini-states, each controlled by an oligarch.

The fascist christian nationalists have a competing vision of a theocratic republic, like Iran, where everyone is coerced into their insane fascist world view, as in Handmaid's Tale.

Take your pick. They are all horrible nightmares.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
11. That just a symptom with a band aid.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:53 PM
Feb 2025

It is debt payment to the axis of evil, Russia, China, AND NKto allow them to dominate the world.

The GOP IS KOMPROMAT! THEY DON'T CARE WHAT IS GOING ON, BECAUSE THEY ARE OWNED BY WHAT THESE COUNTRIES HAVE ON THEM.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
8. They have a debt to China, Russia, and any other
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:49 PM
Feb 2025

Axis of evil, because they are kompromat.

They are destructing the country for them. Or they debt will be paid by their lives. They are cowards and traitors.

gab13by13

(32,345 posts)
10. Talking Points Memo is saying
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:51 PM
Feb 2025

Musk's Cyberpunks rewrote the code for treasury payments. Musk can shut down the payments or more likely steal the funds.

Bye bye government health care.

valleyrogue

(2,719 posts)
12. It will end in Florence ADX, Terre Haute, or the 1960s solution.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:56 PM
Feb 2025

Musk, Thiel, and the rest of the criminals will not succeed.

Tadams01KC

(62 posts)
13. Taliban envy
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:56 PM
Feb 2025

I think they see the Taliban and admire those aspects of control. And they want to impliment a similar system in the US

Duncan Grant

(8,920 posts)
14. I'm interested in throwing sand into the gears.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 02:57 PM
Feb 2025

All of the breathless ellipses and “why?!” aren’t especially helpful (to me) right now.

I’d like to focus on effective countermeasures, rather than a unifying theory of right-wing fuckery.

To each, their own.

Response to leftgirl (Original post)

meadowlander

(5,133 posts)
20. The tech oligarchs see themselves as the next evolution of global governance
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 03:40 PM
Feb 2025

moving beyond nation states and concentrating power in a global elite of "the best and the brightest" who will unify the planet so we can start colonising Mars and move on to space exploration.

And, because they are unhindered by ethics, they think a totalitarian/fascist state will be more efficient because it can get things done faster.

They are seizing this moment, when trust in US governance is at its weakest, to dismantle US democracy and weaken its influence on its democratic allies.

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