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Zachary Leeman
Apr 17th, 2025, 9:46 am
James Carville slammed Democratic National Committee Vice Chair David Hogg as a contemptible little twerp and suggested the DNC sue him on Wednesday.
Carville joined NewsNations Chris Cuomo on Wednesday following his call for progressive Democrats more concerned with pronoun politics to leave to Democratic Party. In Carvilles interview, he slammed Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), and Hogg, arguing that all three are part of the problem.
All three, the Democratic strategist said, are more interested in targeting Democrats than Republicans.
Carville took particular issue with Hogg and his newly-announced venture to use millions to challenge incumbent Democrats.
/snip
Carville's time has come and gone, but no one seems to have informed him.


Ocelot II
(124,349 posts)Maybe it's time to retire to The Villages.
brush
(59,631 posts)when if successful, all that does is replace one Dem. Rep. for another without narrowing the rethug's majority in. the House.
Go after vulnerable rethug reps. in purple or blue districts Biden won in '24.
It's not that complicated. Guess the young Mr. Hogg has to learn.
I don't however agree with Carville on AOC or Bernie. They're doing great work of raising awareness of the invertebrate rethugs in the House and Senate and the ineptness of trump 2.0.
Ocelot II
(124,349 posts)is waaay out of line.
redstatebluegirl
(12,661 posts)Ocelot II
(124,349 posts)But Carville's opinion that Hogg is "a contemptible little twerp" says more about Carville than it does about Hogg, and what it says isn't so good. Just because you can say something doesn't necessarily mean that you should.
redstatebluegirl
(12,661 posts)I do not agree with Hogg on this one and regularly disagree with Carville.
dsc
(52,883 posts)to the extent that he can either been a Dem Vice Chair or take sides in Dem primaries.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,037 posts)Butterflylady
(4,378 posts)Hogg wants to raise 20 million to primary democrats that he and his group do not really think have progressive views. Carville went to a meeting that Hogg and his group had, listened to them, turned around and very disgusted.
Sorry I can't remember the name of the group.
Jose Garcia
(3,163 posts)mcar
(44,480 posts)Starting to think we let a fox in the henhouse.
Meowmee
(8,728 posts)Chasstev365
(5,371 posts)Seriously James?
The world has changed just a wee bit since 1992....
Autumn
(47,724 posts)
FarPoint
(13,926 posts)Carville needs to go into assisted living and eat his cornbread.... Shut Up!
Apparently he can't let go....but we can ignore him.
whathehell
(30,136 posts)over Carville, but could we stop with the ageist references?
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,539 posts)Period
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,105 posts)ILikePie92
(86 posts)Didn't Carville predict the Trump administration would fall within 30 days?
Yeah, why do we care what this eldely dipshit thinks again?
whathehell
(30,136 posts)It's absolutely possible to support Hogg and decry Carville without slurring the latter because of his age...We didn't like it when it was done to Joe Biden, so let's show a little class (and consistency) and drop the double standard.
I didnt slur him because of his age. Stating that someone is elderly is not a slurbut a statement of fact. I slurred him because he's an idiot.
Hell, I AM ELDERLY. You're just LOOKING for something to be offended about.
Read and think before accusing someone of slurring.
Since WHEN is being elderly a slur? I'm damn proud to be elderly. Didn't get this way on luck!
If I'd have said he was a tall idiot, would tall be a slur? What if I'd said he was a human dipshit instead? Human is now a slur? Give mea break.
Think about context and use your brain before being offended.
whathehell
(30,136 posts)Were that the case, you'd have referred to him as simply "a dipshit", not an "elderly dipshit".
ILikePie92
(86 posts)A tall dipshit? Slur on tallness?
You're wrong, sorry. Only I know what I meant. Simple reading, then thinking would do the trick.
Thinking
whathehell
(30,136 posts)but Age Discrimination is so well recognized, there are laws against it...Tall Discrimination?...Not so much.
ILikePie92
(86 posts)That's my point, thank you!
whathehell
(30,136 posts)Whatever you say!
ILikePie92
(86 posts)Yes, you're correct, I slurred myself.
My god.
That's my point, thank you!
Why would I slur myself?
uponit7771
(92,759 posts)... 30 days and they did.
Just getting his statement correct
ILikePie92
(86 posts)He said the "Administration would collapse"
Response to ILikePie92 (Reply #6)
red dog 1 This message was self-deleted by its author.
dweller
(26,452 posts)Yall still listening to ol goober ?
The last significant thing he had to say echoed from a trash can over his head . . .
✌🏻
CousinIT
(11,258 posts)....but if not now, when is the "time" to get milquetoast Dems off their asses? Honestly, too many of them are unable/unwilling to fight in this existential battle. Maybe Hogg should go about this differently, quietly but effectively and not announce it. I don't know but I'm sick of Democrats' inability or unwillingness to go on full offense.
GusBob
(7,887 posts)6 about age
Looks like Clooney was right about Biden.
sarisataka
(21,649 posts)whathehell
(30,136 posts)despite the fact that a majority of DUers are
either within Carville's age range
Ocelot II
(124,349 posts)and still stuck in the '90s.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,105 posts)whathehell
(30,136 posts)I also think he has some particular 'quirks' that are specific to his personality, rather than his age.
ILikePie92
(86 posts)Carville has been around a LONG time. It's that TIME and the party and the people have passed him by like it does all of us eventually. You have to change with the times.
BeyondGeography
(40,429 posts)W_HAMILTON
(8,927 posts)Maybe our party should stop bending over backwards to appease those who will never be appeased and will always find something to complain about? They are not the Democratic base and they are all too happy to be contrarians and do their "a pox on both your houses!" schtick because that will earn them more social media clout than saying they support Democrats.
Too bad they don't realize that a sizable portion of those social media likes and hearts come from Republicans and Russian trolls amplifying their wedge issues to help propel MAGA fascists into power...
SocialDemocrat61
(4,272 posts)progressives should leave the Democratic Party.
intheflow
(29,524 posts)Him and his ilk telling us who have been warning of rising fascism in the Republican party for literal decades to STFU has led to this exact moment in time. Fuck off, Carville. Us progressives have been right all along.
dflprincess
(28,775 posts)And still hasn't figured out it was a mistake. He needs to go away.
Fla Dem
(26,550 posts)red dog 1
(30,716 posts)Many "old men" (like Bernie Sanders) ARE "more in tune with the 2020's."
I don't think it has anything to do with their age.
Intractable
(976 posts)I'm with Hogg.
And I am much closer in demographics to Carville.
I used to think I'd watch more CNN if it didn't have Cuomo as a host. Funny thing, after he got canned from CNN, I wound up watching that channel even less.
TommieMommy
(1,867 posts)UpInArms
(52,654 posts)
tanyev
(46,167 posts)or Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney. Maybe she did and I missed it.
Joinfortmill
(17,871 posts)Rebl2
(16,187 posts)but also do nothing democrats as well. Strongly worded letters just dont quite work these days.
gulliver
(13,415 posts)Who's ("well-intentioned" but) dumb idea were they? I don't remember getting the email where we liberals got to vote on it. They were a major backlash backfire for the populations supposedly helped by them. I doubt those populations were consulted either.
AOC removed hers from her X bio. Bernie never talks about it. Harris and Walz shoved the whole idea and its related skits to the end of the show and then cut them for time. So, I think Carville is a little late on that one. He's beating a dead horse.
I don't think Hogg should be meddling in primaries. He needs to cool his jets and give himself a few years.
Bettie
(18,183 posts)place in the Democratic party.
At what age do young people become old enough to matter? 60? 70? 80?
Paladin
(30,252 posts)You need to be spending every woken moment, fucking off.
hlthe2b
(109,285 posts)I really wish they WOULD get on the same page, though... And Carville needs to respect the very effective efforts AOC & Bernie are engaged in now. I like and respect David Hogg, but I, too, am not thrilled with efforts to challenge incumbent Dems--when we so badly need to retake the House & Senate. That one seems poorly considered for most cases.
Jit423
(1,256 posts)STOP IT!! Speak to and speak for ALL citizens and those who are fighting for freedom and democracy., Speak against the fascists.
hamsterjill
(15,774 posts)First of all, any in-fighting needs to be done in private; not on a public platform.
Secondly, there are issues with both of these people. Carville is no longer a credible source. He's become a joke to most people and he doesn't need to be the "face" of the Democratic party by any means.
Hogg is not yet seasoned enough to understand the big picture. I am SO sorry that he (and all of the others) endured the tragedy that occurred. But that alone does not prepare him for having expertise in politics. Give him ten years, and then get back to me.
The Democratic party needs a new "face". Someone strong, yet calm. Someone easy on the eyes. I know that's shallow, but hey, this is America, and it matters. Someone articulate and quick witted and smart. I'm not sure who that is yet, but there's got to be someone.
Pete Buttigieg has the most of these qualities in my opinion. But the bubbas - even the independent bubbas - aren't willing to accept anything that comes from a gay man. That's not my thinking, but it is reality.
We need that person NOW and that person needs to be on every network, every chance. They need to be at every official event where Trump doesn't show. They need to become "THE face". People need to become comfortable with that person, trust that person, and want to hear what that person has to say.
red dog 1
(30,716 posts)I think she has both the energy and the popularity to "be on every network, every chance" - as well as "at every official event where Shitler doesn't show."
hamsterjill
(15,774 posts)I'm honestly not sure. I think she's vibrant, smart and strong. But there's something about her that to me (personally) just doesn't make the cut.
That sounds horrible, right? But I'm being very honest here.
I'm not sure that I can even explain it. Perhaps it's because I'm old and she's still very young, and I just don't want to accept that it's time to see someone as young as her as a leader. That would be MY loss, and if she bubbles up to the top and becomes "THE" person, I would certainly stand behind her.
She's abrasive in a way that I think the general public would find disconcerting. That may not even be her fault as much as the fact that she's been "Hillary'd" since she came on the scene. But I think there's a large segment of the population that already has a negative feeling about her. Again, I don't know. I could be 100% wrong, and if I were wrong - I'd be fine with admitting that and supporting her.
red dog 1
(30,716 posts)and they truly do hate her, and so does their leader, Shitler.
She could get millions of younger voters, including the millions of the mostly young Democrats who stayed home on November 5th, to come out & vote blue in next year's midterm elections....(She's also popular with Independents and progressives of all ages)
We HAVE to take back both Houses of Congress next November, but that won't happen until the Democratic Party acknowledges the millions of college students, younger Democrats & first-time voters who are sick of "business as usual" and who have the energy to knock on doors, start and/or rebuild the "Young Democrats" groups in colleges, and staff the offices of Democratic candidates in every city & large town in America.
They stayed home last November because they weren't listened to.
That has to change!
milestogo
(20,358 posts)
Solly Mack
(94,855 posts)Gore1FL
(22,426 posts)Basso8vb
(877 posts)sop
(13,823 posts)Carville needs to head back to the swamps.
Renew Deal
(83,834 posts)Not only is Carville "part of the problem", he is a wart on the parties nose.
William769
(58,802 posts)Apparently he still has enough weight for the media to pick him up. So that's saying something.
Renew Deal
(83,834 posts)William769
(58,802 posts)But for nostalgia reasons, he holds a place in my heart.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,105 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(4,272 posts)Hes one of the faces they want to push on the Democratic Party.
red dog 1
(30,716 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:02 PM - Edit history (1)
Fuck the corporate media!
Nanjeanne
(6,028 posts)Liberal In Texas
(15,133 posts)He's just gotten worse.
MichMan
(14,962 posts)It doesn't seem like a useful use of resources IMO
Everyone signed it except Mr. Hogg.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dnc-vice-chair-david-hogg-plans-to-spend-millions-against-democratic-incumbents-admits-this-is-going-to-anger-a-lot-of-people/ar-AA1D3g6j?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=ee4b751c50b94ca1bb8d7dad1f2494b1&ei=18
HoosierDebbie
(417 posts)Traditional Democratic politics don't work anymore. We Lost! We need reps who will stand up and make noise, not just Traditional, Incumbent Democrats who are quiet and unwilling to be bold.
I prefer Democratic representatives and Senators who are willing to revolutionize the way they communicate campaign and legislate.
If the old guard can't or won't step up and show they are passionate and proactive, then I agree that they should be replaced.
,
It is not that people are old, it is the ideas and methods that are old.
Duncan Grant
(8,694 posts)Im a progressive gay man; out for 40 years. Its been my experience that democrats expect a lot of patience from some of their constituencies. It doesnt threaten me one bit that Hogg is looking to expedite a progressive agenda. I look forward to a vigorous debate over the future of this party.
usonian
(17,255 posts)Oh WAIT, that's Carvel
pacalo
(24,745 posts)Carville needs to go away. As evidenced by the pictures of Sanders'/AOC's rallies, people are hungry for action.
It's a new day, with untraveled roads. Get lost, Carville.
Arazi
(7,730 posts)Time to shake things up.
New ideas please!
Nixie
(17,611 posts)hell respect. That seems like the whole nut right there. No one can argue with that, and it explains perfectly his doubts.
Rob H.
(5,640 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,105 posts)Mountainguy
(1,736 posts)About a guy that's 100% right on this.
Renew Deal
(83,834 posts)enough to get us into the situation we're in.
Sky Jewels
(9,120 posts)Bernie is out there fighting the good fight and he's 83. We love him. This moron, on the other hand, thinks it's still 1992. That's why we're critical. He sucks, and he's wrong.
Mountainguy
(1,736 posts)Doesn't make the things said here any less ageist.
"I have a black friend"
Sky Jewels
(9,120 posts)If I never see or hear James Carville again it will be too soon.
Kid Berwyn
(20,092 posts)A tactical pause, a political retreat, a curl up and hope they don't see us kind of posture -- whatever words one uses, Carville's arrogant and simultaneously cowardly approach is why so many "independents" and "undecideds" have turned from the Democratic "brand." No one follows a coward into combat.
Cha
(309,928 posts)you feel about his "strategy" without it.
Meowmee
(8,728 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(162,038 posts)I know that county and state parties are generally prohibited from getting involved in primary contests and that all of the members of the DNC other than Mr. Hogg have signed a pledge not to get involved in primaries. If Mr. Hogg wants to do this, he should resign from the DNC
Link to tweet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/04/15/dnc-leader-democrats-primary/
In order to ensure we are as effective as possible at electing Democrats to office, it is the DNCs longstanding position that primary voters not the national party determine their Democratic candidates for the general election, Martin continued.
All DNC officers have been asked to avoid activities in their party or personal capacity that would raise questions about their impartiality, but Hogg was the one DNC leader who did not sign the neutrality policy.
Link to tweet
I agree with James Carville here
Meowmee
(8,728 posts)So my question is why was he allowed not to? The d party members who supported him to run as a vc, elected him and allowed this are responsible imo.
We now have a d leader attacking d from within in what will amount to damaging primary crap, which could weaken any candidates, which is imo not good.
Imo d leaders need to attack R candidates not D.
LetMyPeopleVote
(162,038 posts)Meowmee
(8,728 posts)Its up to the party, they caused this.
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GP6971
(34,608 posts)Hey there GP
GP6971
(34,608 posts)
I'm pulling out and composting the remains of summer. Weather still good though.
GP6971
(34,608 posts)Ping Tung
(2,194 posts)bucolic_frolic
(49,970 posts)Change is inevitable. There is also change that is too abrupt, too comprehensive, too untested. We don't need to change the part of the party that is entrenched and winning elections. We need growth in other areas. Catering to youngsters will have consequences with elders, and I do mean voters. This oil well could come up dry.
Passages
(2,662 posts)Sounds like a great idea:
Obama oversaw a net loss of 947 state legislative seats, 63 House seats, 11 senators, and 13 governors.
Now, of course, we lost it all, the House, Senate, and White House.
NAFTA was a great policy, too.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,105 posts)Passages
(2,662 posts)James Carville@JamesCarville
Looking forward to it!
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Jake Sherman@JakeSherman
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Mar 10
HOUSE DEMS have their retreat this week in Leesburg, Va.
Among the speakers:
- @danpfeiffer
- JAMES CARVILLE
- LINDA THOMAS GREENFIELD
- @AndyBeshearKY
- @GovWhitmer
- @JoshShapiroPA
Link to tweet
choie
(5,362 posts)and shut the hell up, you cranky has- been.
uponit7771
(92,759 posts)...seeing our den leadership has over performed
Blasphemer
(3,431 posts)The Democrats (aside from those mentioned and the others that have stepped up) have looked like weak, insipid, do-nothings in the face of a fascist coup. I typically defend them against attacks from the left because I know that this is fundamentally a center-right country (by design). However, this is not the moment for 90s style triangulation. We're dealing with Nazis here, Mr. Carville. The only answer is resistance.
LexVegas
(6,684 posts)jcboon
(325 posts)Studies and elections prove it, time after time.
Midwestern Democrat
(887 posts)simply makes it official. I don't agree with the idea that in a district like that someone should be entitled to be a congressman for life - regardless of his performance in office - simply because he won the Democratic primary when the seat became open.
TheBadWolf
(49 posts)He doesn't give a shit about a winning strategy for Democrats, only keeping his name out there to fuel his own ego and keeping the gravy train flowing for DINOs.
JanMichael
(25,578 posts)red dog 1
(30,716 posts)(Carville is contemptible)
JanMichael
(25,578 posts)And he cackles like a voodoo hoodoo dude.
Plus he used "little" in a clever way to mock youth and experience.
But I get your point.
IcyPeas
(23,472 posts)Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
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alarimer
(17,146 posts)Democrats usually response to losing is to double down on swinging to the right. Few even try to be bold. Some are doing so and it is energizing people. Meanwhile, others send "strongly worded letters".
There is zero reason a seat in Congress should be a job for life. They need to be challenged every single time.
David__77
(24,026 posts)PedroXimenez
(667 posts)now i'm on board
valleyrogue
(2,027 posts)This is shades of AOC on the very first day she was in Congress. Both of them very young and thinking they know everything when in fact they know next to nothing. It is a good way to make enemies, and they really don't want to piss off people who have been in public service a lot longer than they have. They need to learn the ropes.
Hogg is only 25 years old and has a LOT of growing up to do.
FoxNewsSucks
(11,120 posts)as wrong as he was to say Dems should just sit on their hands and let the Orange Anus wreck everything.
Fuck him, continuing to do the same damn thing with the same damn type of elected people DID NOT WORK. It won't work in the future, either. MAGAts hope we'll listen to fools like Carville.
ReRe
(11,569 posts)The ropes of money/corruption? The lobbyist's ropes? The "Party" ropes? Let me tell you what those young people know: They know what it looks like from the outside looking in. It isn't a pretty picture out here on the streets of America. I'm an oldster, but I am thrilled to have such wonderful young people entering our Party to take the reigns.
ReRe
(11,569 posts)How's about us all suing James Carville because he won't shut the fuck up? It just seems to me like some of these old Democrats have a penchant for demonizing young democrats and I've had it with them! The future of our Party lies in their hands. Now let it go! Go home. Go fishing with your grandkids. Do all those things you always wanted to do but never had time to. He never learned the old Ben Franklin adage that goes something like "If you can't say something nice about somebody, then don't say anything at all." Hasn't Trump and his cabal not given him enough to bitch about?
GaYellowDawg
(4,956 posts)He needs to realize his time is over, STFU, and lay back down in the coffin