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G_j

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Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:56 AM Apr 17

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FirstLight

(14,985 posts)
1. WTAF?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:59 AM
Apr 17
I'm so sick of these people who think nature is for sale! ...short selling our planet for their own bullshit...

underpants

(190,081 posts)
4. WTF is going on? Jesus. FOFA huh?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:06 PM
Apr 17

Magoo48

(6,244 posts)
10. What's the matter with these fucking guys?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:21 PM
Apr 17

underpants

(190,081 posts)
16. I don't know.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:46 PM
Apr 17

leftstreet

(36,723 posts)
2. Oh wow! Just like Bush's "Healthy Forests" act n/t
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:00 PM
Apr 17

Comfortably_Numb

(4,184 posts)
14. Who can forget the ok polluters you can go wild act, I mean, Clean Skies Initiative?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:36 PM
Apr 17

Xavier Breath

(5,536 posts)
3. Can't we just buy bigger forest rakes?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:03 PM
Apr 17

Vinca

(51,942 posts)
5. They might have also included "please don't ever vote for us" in their bill. This is probably the dumbest
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:09 PM
Apr 17

thing I've seen from Democrats in recent memory. The problem isn't timber - there are plenty of trees being cut. The problem is a lack of sawmills to process the cut trees. Watch any northbound Interstate and you'll see truck after truck heading north to Canada to be turned into lumber and other products.

Baitball Blogger

(49,860 posts)
6. WTF?!!
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:10 PM
Apr 17

yellow dahlia

(2,280 posts)
7. I second that emotion.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:21 PM
Apr 17

Sky Jewels

(9,116 posts)
8. DEMOCRATS: STOP FUCKING CAPITULATING TO FASCISTS!!!
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:28 PM
Apr 17


PS: Yes, I know "not all Democrats" are capitulating. But as a whole, in general, the response to this nightmare from the DNC et al has been beyond demoralizing and enraging. I won't say any more because I'll get in trouble.

valleyrogue

(2,023 posts)
9. I want a legitimate news organization to report this.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:43 PM
Apr 17

I will not believe a word of a special interest group until it is confirmed by a legitimate news organization.

LauraInLA

(1,805 posts)
12. Agreed. These orgs may be right, but I'm currently looking for independent analysis.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:28 PM
Apr 17

Magoo48

(6,244 posts)
11. Need something to do you two? There's fascists to fight.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:26 PM
Apr 17

Mountainguy

(1,735 posts)
13. Such overreaction here
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:35 PM
Apr 17

The Senate version of the Fix Our Forests Act is endorsed by environmental groups, first responders, and wildfire organizations including: The Nature Conservancy; National Wildlife Federation; Environmental Defense Fund; National Audubon Society; Citizens’ Climate Lobby; Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership; Rural Voices for Conservation Coalition; The Stewardship Project; the Federation of American Scientists; CAL FIRE; the International Association of Fire Chiefs; Alliance for Wildfire Resilience; Megafire Action; the Association for Firetech Innovation; Climate & Wildfire Institute; Tall Timbers; Bipartisan Policy Center Action (BPC Action); and Hispanics Enjoying Camping, Hunting, and the Outdoors (HECHO); the American Property Casualty Insurance Association; and the Property and Environment Research Center.

Hekate

(97,342 posts)
15. Who is that source? This interpretation just seems contrary to the Padilla I voted for....
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:41 PM
Apr 17

Mountainguy, post #13, is on the right track — listing who endorses the bill.

KPN

(16,566 posts)
17. Oregon Wild is a pretty hard core environmental activist
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:58 PM
Apr 17

group and hss been actively working against even Clinton’s NW Forest Plan and federal timber harvests generally for decades now. I wouldn’t rely on this as an objective source. I worked/managed in federal land mgmt here in Oregon for much of my career — and have deslt with this org. I would advise keeping an open mind until you/we know the full story.

dchill

(42,100 posts)
18. FOFA? No. FAFO.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:58 PM
Apr 17

Whose nests are we feathering, folks?

Grins

(8,268 posts)
19. Well, as long as they rake the forests. We need a better class of Democrats.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:04 PM
Apr 17

The current class is asleep.

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