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Nevilledog

(54,127 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:21 PM Apr 17

White guy DEI

https://www.publicnotice.co/p/white-guy-dei-trump

Republicans have spent decades howling about how affirmative action led to unqualified minorities taking jobs away from well-qualified straight white men. Thanks to the Supreme Court ending affirmative action in college admissions in 2023, conservatives had the chance to, as one of Trump’s executive orders put it, “restore merit-based opportunity.”

Implicit in that statement is the notion that people of color, women, and LGBTQ individuals are unqualified, but got jobs because they check a box. They must be removed, the thinking goes, so that the most proficient and skilled people are chosen solely on merit. Except that’s not really what conservatives want.

Yes, they’re sincere about their desire to eradicate actual diversity in the workplace, but they aren’t interested in a world where skills carry the day. Rather, they want what can only be described as affirmative action for unqualified true believers. Put another way, adherence to a particularly hardline conservative worldview is the sole qualification that matters.

Just look at Oklahoma Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt. In 2023, Stitt banned the use of any tax dollars for diversity initiatives. But that didn’t lead to him nominating the most qualified people.

Stitt just named Travis Jett to the state supreme court. Jett has never been a judge, but somehow beat out two other sitting lower court judges, one of whom has been on the bench since 2009, the other since 2014. But what Jett lacks in judicial experience he makes up for in ideology, with connections to a conservative think tank that hates the state’s judicial nomination commission.

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Silent Type

(9,045 posts)
1. My experience is that white wingers aren't as smart/superior as they think. Have a friend who is pretty high up
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:28 PM
Apr 17

in a big company. I knew him when we were in a little band and he was in Human Resources where I worked.

He left 20 years ago to join a Diversity unit at this large company. He was perfect for it and a big supporter of Democratic causes. Anyway, they recently changed the reference for that department, but he and others are still there.

I hope the desire for DEI continues, even if the department names are changed.

brush

(59,628 posts)
2. All I've got to say is look around and see what extreme, mega, white male dominated admins have wrought.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:30 PM
Apr 17

And it ain't pretty.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,850 posts)
3. Similarly A DU OP today made the connection on the internal contradiction of the attack on Harvard
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:36 PM
Apr 17

The Trump administration's war on Harvard University is absurdly self contradictory and bound to fail.

"...the Trump administration demanded that Harvard review the ideological composition of its faculty and students; for any unit deemed insufficiently diverse, the university would be obliged to admit more students or hire more faculty explicitly on the basis of applicants’ ideological views." This is an affirmative action and quota system for conservatives...Moreover, the White House demanded that Harvard "screen prospective international students to root out applicants who might be “hostile to the American values and institutions” or “supportive of terrorism or anti-Semitism.” The university was also instructed to marginalize or remove faculty and administrators who seem “more committed to activism than scholarship.”

"Yet, despite mandating that Harvard engage in several new ideologically based litmus tests for admissions and staffing, the same document also would require the university to “abolish all criteria, preferences, and practices, whether mandatory or optional, throughout its admissions and hiring practices, that function as ideological litmus tests.”

It is literally impossible to comply with this order — to eliminate all ideological litmus tests while imposing more ideological litmus tests. Link is a gift. Fortunately, Harvard has the resources to survive without federal funds. Fortunately, Harvard has the resources to survive without federal funds.
https://wapo.st/4cEZJg3
(emphasis added)

Hat tip to Martin68 https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220245987

milestogo

(20,354 posts)
4. I'm in IT, and I work on a very diverse team.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:41 PM
Apr 17

The Muslim guys and the Black guys are the best we have. No digs at anyone else, but hiring only white males does not get you the best people.

Baitball Blogger

(49,860 posts)
5. The number one reason why they want to close the door to people who don't look like them:
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:42 PM
Apr 17

It's because they know they have each other's backs. They know how to follow orders even if they're illegal. It they push things over the edge, they'll stand together protecting each other from retribution for their malfeasance and corruption.

It's a cultural thing. A very one dimensional, elitist cultural society.

gulliver

(13,415 posts)
6. The DEI (tm) fad made this possible.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:10 PM
Apr 17

Somebody just had to make DEI (tm) an abbreviation. That's like seeing someone chasing you and tossing them a big stick so they'll have something to hit you with when they catch you.

We're seeing the results in your OP. Dems need to specifically commit themselves, loudly and soon, to merit and colorblindness. Those things create diversity, equity, and inclusion organically and respectfully.

IronLionZion

(48,564 posts)
8. We can see it in the Cabinet members, political appointees, and Trump himself
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:50 PM
Apr 17

these people were not selected for their qualifications or ability to the job. He has replaced many military leaders who actually are qualified and did their jobs correctly but are a little too diverse or too female.

ShazzieB

(20,347 posts)
9. Yes, just look at how many of Trump's appointees have the intellectual acumen of carpet lint!
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:31 PM
Apr 17

It's blatantly, painfully obvious that things like inteligence, good judgment, character, and relevant experience have nothing to do with his appointments. Schlump's litmus test is loyalty, which for him translates to a willingness to lie, cheat, steal, and commit whatever crimes he asks of you.
In other words, he's the mob boss we always knew he was.

What a crazy world we are living in right now!

Johnny2X2X

(22,775 posts)
10. My career experience
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 08:19 AM
Monday

What I have seen over and over is that mediocre white guys still get the bulk of the i,portant jobs and promotions. And mediocre white guys are held to a much lower standard of performance than minorities or women.

Diversity helps you get the best people in the right spots and ultimately gives you a competitive advantage in the market place. Companies who are homogeneous in their leadership fail to recognize threats and opportunites as well as more diverse companies.

It's stark in my industry, aerospace engineering. The women leaders are constantly questioned and have to prove themselves, where as the men can fail over and over again and still move up the corporate ladder. And there are total failures too, I am thinking of a coupe white men who've done nothing but botch major pursuits or projects that have cost the company $millions and they just skate through it all unscathed and end up with a nicer office in the end.

And I see it at other firms in reverse too. A good friend is in medical device engineering, they make surgical equipment and medical impants. Their company was on solid footing a decade ago, but saw a need for more diversity, they looked around saw people from thje same background that all looked alike running everything. So they made a real effort to hire and promote more women and minorities. That company has grown into a global leader from a more regional company. They've grown in size several times over and are raking in profits and paying dividends that are absurd. A real success story by all accounts. But the older white guys don't see it that way, they complain constantly that they are hiring based on sex and race too much. When I have heard that, I've said, "well, whatever you're doing worked, keep it up."

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