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Zorro

(17,262 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 12:52 PM Apr 17

China Open to Talks If US Shows Respect, Names Point Person

China wants to see a number of steps from President Donald Trump’s administration before it will agree to trade talks, including showing more respect by reining in disparaging remarks by members of his cabinet, according to a person familiar with the Chinese government’s thinking.

Other conditions include a more consistent US position and a willingness to address China’s concerns around American sanctions and Taiwan, said the person, who asked not to be identified to discuss internal thinking.

Beijing also wants the US to appoint a point person for talks who has the president’s support and can help prepare a deal that Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping can sign when they meet, the person said.

The fate of the global economy and financial markets hinges in large part on whether the US and China can find a way to avoid a protracted trade war. Trump has hit China with tariffs of 145% on most goods since taking office, prompting Beijing to retaliate and threatening to wipe out most trade between the world’s biggest economies.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-16/china-open-to-talks-if-trump-shows-respect-names-point-person?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc0NDkwODY4NywiZXhwIjoxNzQ1NTEzNDg3LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJTVVNMSDRUMEcxS1cwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiJDNjgyQTUwQzJCRDM0MTFCQTgwQjEwQjZEQjczQzM1MSJ9.nUkzr458iHPloJj0lfuf_cNWii2WRaLrTHKrKE7NIUs

Wanting the Trump administration to show respect is a non-starter for negotiations.

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brush

(59,625 posts)
2. Exactly. trump's tariff policies are just ignorant and foolish.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:03 PM
Apr 17

And the last thing we need is the trump debacle of an admin negotiating on Taiwan. That could result in serious instability in that region.

brush

(59,625 posts)
8. I know. They won't give up on Taiwan. They're taking the long view there....
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:29 PM
Apr 17

knowing time is on their side. And it really is as China has thousands of years of history with that island near to their coast and they sense weakness in how the bully trump has blown the ceasefire in the Ukraine war.

Irish_Dem

(68,614 posts)
9. China will get Taiwan.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:44 PM
Apr 17

China plays the long game.
It waited 156 years to get Hong Kong back from the British.

The plan appears to have been that Russia would grab Kyiv in three days.
China would then do the same with Taipei.

But Russia's failure was a sobering event for Xi.
His economy was already in free fall due to the housing and municipal debt crises.
He could not take the risk of sanctions.

It would be better for Xi to take over Taiwan like Putin took over the US.
Bribe puppets to populate the Taiwan govt, make it more an internal civil war situation.
Install the fascist govt in Taipei like Trump is doing in DC.

But if the opportunity presents itself Xi would love to storm Taiwan with his military.
Xi now has the largest military in the world and he would love to show it off if he can.

But perhaps Trump will give Xi Taiwan as part of the tariff negotiations.

brush

(59,625 posts)
10. Right. Chna will eventually get Taiwan. Maybe soone if the moron trump is invloved and just gives it to them.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:16 PM
Apr 17

I don't think that is imminent though as trump 2.0 won't go beyond four years. Hell, he might even be ousted by the ambitious Vance by the 25th Amendment/via incapacitation issues before that.

That won't leave us better off as Vance no. better than trump.

Irish_Dem

(68,614 posts)
11. Trump is just the current stooge/puppet/con artist salesman.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 02:29 PM
Apr 17

There is a long line waiting to follow him.

Trump is just the front man.

GOP US congress, courts, Supreme Court, media, billionaires are all
solidly in favor of a fascist dictatorship.

If China is smart they will go for Taiwan soon.
Make Trump give them Taiwan.

They can play Trump like a fiddle by flattering him and giving him cash.

Everything is for sale if the price is right when it comes to Trump.

Sad sad days.

patphil

(7,716 posts)
3. It's quite apparent that Trump doesn't respect the Chinese.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:04 PM
Apr 17

China's call for respect is being done to serve notice to the Trump administration that they aren't going to negotiate with Trump except on their terms.
No respect, no negotiations.

Irish_Dem

(68,614 posts)
6. Exactly. China is setting the pre-conditions to get some control.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:13 PM
Apr 17

And make Trump stop the trash talking.

Irish_Dem

(68,614 posts)
4. China is putting Taiwan on the negotiation table.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 01:07 PM
Apr 17

China is playing Trump like a fiddle.
And will use the tariff war to outsmart Trump.

tanyev

(46,165 posts)
12. Mafia Don: "No, YOU gotta show respect to Me!"
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 05:22 PM
Apr 17

“And I demand that you call me Sir. With REAL TEARS in your eyes!”

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