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planetc

(8,510 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:29 PM Apr 17

Blackmail on a national scale

The Constitution doesn’t expressly forbid blackmail. But it is nevertheless against the law in any civilized country. The Constitution does expressly enjoin the President to “take care that the laws be faithful executed."

It is therefore doubly reprehensible that the current president is breaking the laws against blackmail daily, and claiming credit for his “negotiation skills” as he does. There is no negotiation possible with a blackmailer: they hold all the cards, and threaten the victim with public or private punishment if the price demanded is not paid. The victim is under duress, and has almost nothing to bargain with, except for one thing. The victim can say: “Punish and be damned. I’m not paying.” What the president has done to Columbia, Harvard, Cornell, and Northwestern, not to mention various law firms notable for their successful practice of the law, is to say: “Throw out your DEI programs or I will withhold your funding for a bunch of programs that have nothing to do with DEI, like cancer research, or I will keep the money and force you to fire all the people who work in those laboratories, or I will make it impossible for you to practice law in any court but the local Justice of the Peace. These are the tactics of a thug, who is using stolen money to starve his victims out.

The money the 47th blunder is withholding is not his. It does not belong to him personally. The country is not a privately held corporation with a CEO. These funds are the tax dollars of Americans who have little choice but to pay their taxes. But the Constitution provides the citizens with some control over how their tax dollars are spent. All funding flows from Congress, which is composed of representatives elected by the citizens. Congress is our protection against theft, waste, and mismanagement. And Congress has not approved the withholding of any funds, or the firing of any government employees, and certainly not approved blackmail in the name of one man’s personal popularity campaign.

It is unfortunate that our current Congress has slim majorities of Republicans in both houses, because over the last thirty years, Republicans have abandoned their responsibilities to the citizens under the Constitution. In fact, they don’t seem to be familiar with that document at all. They feel that their constituents elected them to keep on campaigning long after the election is over. Republicans are campaigning daily to make themselves as popular as possible to their voting base. Actual governing, of course, is hard work, involving the construction of policies and departments and agencies to carry out the policies. You actually have to know what you’re doing to participate in government. But Republicans are too involved in getting themselves reelected to stoop to actual governing.

As long as Republican discipline holds in Congress, there’s nothing that can be done legally and Constitutionally, to stop the blackmail and theft. Unless, of course, enough Republican come to their senses, and pass legislation to stop the bloodletting. Congress could pass laws to forbid unelected, unvetted, and interested parties, like Elon Musk, from meddling with the Congressionally approved operation of any agency or department working under the legal authority of Congress. It could pass legislation to forbid the president from setting any tariffs at all, and confirm that tariffs are the responsibility of the Dept. of Commerce. It could do any number of things, if a few Republicans could see their way clear to doing some work for the people. Remember, it’s Republican Town Halls making life uncomfortable for their elected representatives.

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Irish_Dem

(68,603 posts)
1. The President of the US is shaking down the entire country with the full force of the govt behind him.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:32 PM
Apr 17

It is unbelievable.
And the courts don't seem to care.

sop

(13,815 posts)
2. It's a shakedown, pure and simple.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:43 PM
Apr 17

"In legal terms, a 'shakedown' refers to an attempt to extort or coerce someone, often through threats or deceptive tactics, to gain something, typically money...A 'shakedown' involves using threats or pressure to get someone to give you something they would not otherwise willingly provide. It can be a form of extortion or blackmail, where someone is compelled to pay money or perform some other action due to the threat of harm or exposure of damaging information."

Under the law in Florida and other states, shakedowns, specifically extortion, are illegal and carry potential penalties. "Extortion, as defined in Florida Statute Section 836.05, is a second-degree felony. Convicted individuals can face up to 15 years in prison and a $10,000 fine."

Irish_Dem

(68,603 posts)
3. Yes. And American are talking about forming alliances to protect themselves.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:46 PM
Apr 17

Universities and law firms banding together to fight Trump.

It is hard to believe that Americans have to form their own NATO to
protect themselves from their own president of the US.

planetc

(8,510 posts)
6. I stand corrected. If shakedown or criminal extortion is the correct term, then that's what he can be arrested for.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 04:35 PM
Apr 17

Do you know if either of these are crimes under federal law? Or, in short, who can we ask to arrest him? Normally, it would be the Attorney General, but that seems unlikely at the moment. Can my local Sheriff arrest him? Can an attorney admitted to the federal bar arrest him?

planetc

(8,510 posts)
4. I don't think it's the full force of the government.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:47 PM
Apr 17

Lots of Democrats work for the government. But they'd like to keep their jobs too. Right now, many in the government are behaving as though Trusk has the right to do whatever they want. This level of anti-Constitutionalism hasn't arisen before, and people are still confused about what can be done. As always, a few people have to stand up, and propose some unconventional, but Constitutional legislation. And then, if Republicans vote it down, the media can point this out incessantly. I think there are some pundits who would point out the Republican betrayal as a betrayal. That would help.

Irish_Dem

(68,603 posts)
5. Trump has resources crime syndicates can only dream about.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 03:57 PM
Apr 17

Trump is using the full force of the US govt to shakedown Americans.

Look at all the tactics and punishments he can dish out.
Revoking security clearances, the IRS, the DOJ, FBI, Homeland Security, etc etc.

planetc

(8,510 posts)
7. At the moment, he appears to have any and all federal agencies and departments to play with, but ...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 04:40 PM
Apr 17

so much of what he's doing is illegal. And he sure as heck doesn't have Congress with him. He's pretending it doesn't exist at the moment. And Congress is not powerless, but is surely paralyzed at the moment.

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