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In It to Win It

(12,249 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:10 PM Apr 2025

BREAKING: Senator Chris Van Hollen says he met with Kilmar Abrego Garcia tonight

BREAKING: Senator Chris Van Hollen says he met with Kilmar Abrego Garcia tonight

“I said my main goal of this trip was to meet with Kilmar. Tonight I had that chance,” Van Hollen tweeted.

Anna Bower (@annabower.bsky.social) 2025-04-18T01:05:41.182Z


I said my main goal of this trip was to meet with Kilmar. Tonight I had that chance. I have called his wife, Jennifer, to pass along his message of love. I look forward to providing a full update upon my return.

Senator Chris Van Hollen (@vanhollen.senate.gov) 2025-04-18T01:02:08.991Z


Anna Bower
‪@annabower.bsky.social‬
BREAKING: Senator Chris Van Hollen says he met with Kilmar Abrego Garcia tonight

“I said my main goal of this trip was to meet with Kilmar. Tonight I had that chance,” Van Hollen tweeted.

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BREAKING: Senator Chris Van Hollen says he met with Kilmar Abrego Garcia tonight (Original Post) In It to Win It Apr 2025 OP
Wow senseandsensibility Apr 2025 #1
I thought Booker was going today and that Van Hollen left yesterday Deuxcents Apr 2025 #4
That was my understanding too senseandsensibility Apr 2025 #9
This is good, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #2
Now that Garcia's profile has been raised with all this publicity and the work of Sen. Van Hollen,... magicarpet Apr 2025 #31
Yep. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #80
I'd imagine canetoad Apr 2025 #32
Amen to that MCE DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #126
I'm doing ok, although, thanks to Been A Dick Donald, I'm paying more, not less like he promised, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #131
Good to hear from you DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #132
Well then, I'll take you up on the offer of food, but not filling up both of my 150 gal. fuel tanks, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #134
At least let me contribute to your Diesel DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #136
I look forward to meeting you IRL, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #138
Hey DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #133
I get the sense that Been A Dick Donald and his criminal cabal have now stepped over the line MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #135
My thinking is DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #137
Thank God he's alive The Blue Flower Apr 2025 #3
So was I--thank God!! ailsagirl Apr 2025 #92
That happened real fast after today's court ruling. /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 2025 #5
WOW! I am sooooo pleased to see this. Maybe there is hope yet... hlthe2b Apr 2025 #6
What shenanigans is trump up to? BOSSHOG Apr 2025 #7
Great question SheltieLover Apr 2025 #16
I'm president of the United states BOSSHOG Apr 2025 #24
All roads lead to russia SheltieLover Apr 2025 #40
"You" would be impeachable. Marcuse Apr 2025 #82
No knowledge? I would normally agree that he's clueless but in this case I'll call BS. Dave Bowman Apr 2025 #47
Oh yeah BOSSHOG Apr 2025 #87
Yeah, the art of the deal: Dave Bowman Apr 2025 #100
Bondi DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #127
Lol SheltieLover Apr 2025 #128
I am not joking SL DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #130
Trump was dealing with a fellow dictator ALBliberal Apr 2025 #83
Give the impression he's being treated better than he is? HereForTheParty Apr 2025 #120
Definitely to give that impression. soldierant Apr 2025 #129
Holy crackers! Wow. Not over, but he's alive And well enough to be sitting at a table electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #8
That table looks like it's in a nice lunchroom. Surely that isn't at the notorious prison?! LauraInLA Apr 2025 #109
I think they went to a restaurant electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #124
As carefully choreographed as a tourist trip to North Korea... Shipwack Apr 2025 #125
Thank you Senator Chris Van Hollen! yardwork Apr 2025 #10
Oh indeed sends good chills down my spine! PortTack Apr 2025 #21
I am crying ailsagirl Apr 2025 #94
Add to that heros list brakester Apr 2025 #102
Well done, senator. Ping Tung Apr 2025 #11
Public opinion is getting to them. everyonematters Apr 2025 #12
Contacts for pressure on the Hell Salvador issue. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #20
THANK YOU!!! niyad Apr 2025 #49
Results! Keep going Democrats! . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #13
So glad. Now keep applying pressure Stinky The Clown Apr 2025 #14
Yes, because there are others there who did not have due process Deuxcents Apr 2025 #17
I sure hope this is real dweller Apr 2025 #15
Gotta keep up the pressure now. Don't back down Democrats. La Coliniere Apr 2025 #18
Best news! Restores my faith in our ability to fight the good fight and win! PortTack Apr 2025 #19
did they let him out of the prison for this? That picture surely didn't come from the prison. Takket Apr 2025 #22
I think they met in a hotel womanofthehills Apr 2025 #77
I have a lot of questions questionseverything Apr 2025 #23
It's possible there was enough time not fooled Apr 2025 #60
It's been a month. I'd expect about a half an inch growth in that time. Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #86
I'm sure they cleaned him up, glad he seems ok questionseverything Apr 2025 #113
Thank God he's alive. Joinfortmill Apr 2025 #25
My first thought exactly. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #51
Thank you I was so worried he was killed kimbutgar Apr 2025 #26
This has to make him and his family feel better. AllyCat Apr 2025 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Apr 2025 #28
And he has a clean sport shirt dweller Apr 2025 #33
Oh, you! W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Apr 2025 #39
L - O - FUCKING - L. W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #44
One by one. WarGamer Apr 2025 #50
lol, because the same fucking MAGA fascists paying them to illegally detain these people are the same... W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #59
As to #2 - it's too early to know for this administration - BUT he deported around 70 in his prior administration. Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #88
why did they add the adjective "potential" to citizens? WarGamer Apr 2025 #99
Maybe they were brakester Apr 2025 #105
Re #2 - perhaps not yet, but they are threatening (2 cases at least) RandomNumbers Apr 2025 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Apr 2025 #55
Yeah, human beings being worried then relieved is hillarious. Dave Bowman Apr 2025 #53
The reason people worry is because they listen to too many people in this world WarGamer Apr 2025 #56
The reason people worry is MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #75
Go Chiefs GusBob Apr 2025 #37
I saw that! Lulu KC Apr 2025 #61
Your LOL is way out of place NoRethugFriends Apr 2025 #43
Creepy AF. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #81
But unsurpising NoRethugFriends Apr 2025 #103
This is what TRUE LEADERSHIP looks like. Thank you, Senator Van Hollen. W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #29
Just coming to make sure the news spreads Maeve Apr 2025 #30
Saw a pic on Reddit & my phone battery zeroed Captain Zero Apr 2025 #107
What a relief! mcar Apr 2025 #35
Garcia must have been so surprised! flamingdem Apr 2025 #36
The dicktator wannabe. mobeau69 Apr 2025 #48
Could be the first sign Krasnov is backing down? GoodRaisin Apr 2025 #52
He's alive! Phew!! Bravo!! nt babylonsister Apr 2025 #38
GASP Mike 03 Apr 2025 #41
what a great thing he did, hope other dems will follow the lead AlexSFCA Apr 2025 #42
I think Cory Booker is going there...but Van Hollen stillcool Apr 2025 #74
Thank goodness! Walleye Apr 2025 #45
Sued into poverty Traildogbob Apr 2025 #46
. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #91
The NY Times says he was turned away radical noodle Apr 2025 #54
That struck me as odd too senseandsensibility Apr 2025 #58
The NYT story has been updated In It to Win It Apr 2025 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author senseandsensibility Apr 2025 #70
Oh great!! Thanks! radical noodle Apr 2025 #79
Updated story In It to Win It Apr 2025 #62
Wow really updated dweller Apr 2025 #68
Hot damn Pinback Apr 2025 #72
There are NO updates on Van Hollen's Gov page dweller Apr 2025 #63
I think they both are...if his meeting with Garcia took place stillcool Apr 2025 #69
Here's Rosetta Tharpe struggle4progress Apr 2025 #57
What is with those weird, contradictory messages ostensibly from "the niyad Apr 2025 #65
He's alive thank goodness proud patriot Apr 2025 #66
Any more names of wrongly imprisoned. I'd like to mention when I make calls ie comment twenty. cbabe Apr 2025 #67
Good Solly Mack Apr 2025 #71
Rachel covering now! senseandsensibility Apr 2025 #73
I watch Maddow brakester Apr 2025 #108
I just got the same update from Axios 😂 soldierant Apr 2025 #76
I feel like an old lost friend just walked into my life. chouchou Apr 2025 #78
OUTSTANDING orangecrush Apr 2025 #84
I hear some Putinite trashbags are saying that even wondering about whether he was dead Prairie Gates Apr 2025 #85
I hadn't seen any Putinite trashbags claim that. WarGamer Apr 2025 #101
I have. W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #114
So why not release him and let him fly back with the senator? mackdaddy Apr 2025 #89
nice to see some good news -- good job, and thank you, Senator fishwax Apr 2025 #90
K&R spanone Apr 2025 #93
"" AllaN01Bear Apr 2025 #95
So, so happy to read this - I thought for sure that the thugs that run that prision had murdered him. iluvtennis Apr 2025 #96
Too bad TSF is so fearful of the dictator or Sneederbunk Apr 2025 #97
Got to admit Bettie Apr 2025 #98
Right? Orrex Apr 2025 #104
Way to go, Senator! Thank you. Buddyzbuddy Apr 2025 #106
This is great news. For the nation Hassler Apr 2025 #110
Great news 👏🏻👏🏻 Meowmee Apr 2025 #111
This nasty detail from the NYT article blogslug Apr 2025 #112
Kudos to Senator Van Hollen! wolfie001 Apr 2025 #115
Now what? LS_Editor Apr 2025 #116
Officials probably heard that we thought they might have killed him alarimer Apr 2025 #117
He is my senator. Im so proud he did this. OLDMDDEM Apr 2025 #118
Senator Van Hollen is my new hero peacebuzzard Apr 2025 #119
Well done! Thus exposing, once again, Trump's lies. Martin68 Apr 2025 #121
Thank god karin_sj Apr 2025 #123

senseandsensibility

(24,205 posts)
9. That was my understanding too
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:14 PM
Apr 2025

Really hoping this is true. Haven't heard anything on MSNBC but I'm watching on a slight delay.

magicarpet

(18,456 posts)
31. Now that Garcia's profile has been raised with all this publicity and the work of Sen. Van Hollen,...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:25 PM
Apr 2025

.... it is now doubtful this "prisoner" will be treated with less than the kid gloves treatment. The spotlight and heat is on - Thank You Senator Van Hollen.

Now put him on a plane and send him home. Fuck don-OLD and his merry team of trDUMPSTERS.




MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
80. Yep.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:15 PM
Apr 2025

He's now too high profile to have him disappear into an unmarked grave.
He needs to be sent back home, like yesterday.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
126. Amen to that MCE
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 03:18 PM
Apr 2025

Of course today, the Republican Congress are not going to allow the trip to be charged to the U.S. Government, and are saying he has to pay for it out of his pocket....

How you doing? Infamous "Springtime In The Rockies" here.......(snowing)

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
131. I'm doing ok, although, thanks to Been A Dick Donald, I'm paying more, not less like he promised,
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 09:32 AM
Apr 2025

for diesel fuel.
Right now, my truck is at the Phoenix Peterbilt facility getting her B service, a deep clean and 4 new drive tires, then it's back on the road.

I love traveling through CO. such a beautiful state, with or without the snow, I remember my first trip through the Eisenhower Tunnel, what feat of engineering!!!

Stay safe, stay warm my friend, someday, when I'm coming through your neck of the woods, we'll have to get together, have a meal, on me of course, and shoot the breeze.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
132. Good to hear from you
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:22 PM
Apr 2025

If you come this way, remember I offered YOU a fill up of Diesel, and a meal to help you out!!!!!

The whole front range, and especially Denver has become massively overcrowded these past few years, with people coming here to live. There are license plates everywhere from Florida, Texas and California. Traffic is un-fathomable.........
Denver is THE car theft capitol of the U.S. Same with crimes with Guns, and road rage drivers, esp around Denver......

The State Patrol, (really good guys by the way) recently stated that they noticed a remarkable increase in road rage starting after the November election, and still continuing....

Stay safe, and forever cautious, my friend....

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
134. Well then, I'll take you up on the offer of food, but not filling up both of my 150 gal. fuel tanks,
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 02:08 PM
Apr 2025

at about $3.80 a gallon, it would cost you about $1000.00 to fill my tanks, plus there is the cost of filling the DEF tank, so, I think it would be sufficient to let me buy the fuel while you pay for a meal.

I hope to be going through Denver soon as it's going on the warmer season, I do hate driving through the snow and ice and having to chain up.

Stay frosty my friend and, god willing, we'll get together soon and discuss what a POS this admin is.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
136. At least let me contribute to your Diesel
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 04:20 PM
Apr 2025

Your work is far more important to you and your customers than anything I am doing........

None of my biggest problems are money at this point in my life, good friend.......

I will look forward to meeting you.........we just need a way to communicate other than on this site.....

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
133. Hey
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 01:30 PM
Apr 2025

did you see the MIDNIGHT convening of the Entire Supreme court in the middle of the night last night and their ruling IN THE FACE, of Trump and Republican Party???? Trump was about to fly hundreds more to El Salvador this weekend, ignoring the USSC previous ruling that he can not do that.........

Little does the USSC, the Republicans in the U.S. House and U.S Senate, realize that in a Tyranny/Dictatorship there is
No need for all of them as there is no Legislative or Judicial branches of government, and they will be kicked to the curb, now that they have fulfilled their usefulness in getting him to this point....

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,552 posts)
135. I get the sense that Been A Dick Donald and his criminal cabal have now stepped over the line
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 02:13 PM
Apr 2025

and the SCOTUS has had enough of his shit and are starting to push back, what they need to do now is revisit their ruling that presidents have almost total immunity from what they do while in office and I think, and this is only my opinion, they are in discussion over this travesty of justice.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
137. My thinking is
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 04:23 PM
Apr 2025

that they feel he has gone too far, too fast, and merely want to slow him down until more progress has been accomplished in the shadows..............

SheltieLover

(76,123 posts)
16. Great question
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:18 PM
Apr 2025

Since he is now saying he has no knowledge of this situation, thereby throwing brainless bondi under the bus, I'm gonna guess someone in the courts told him shit is going to get real. 🤞🤞🤞

BOSSHOG

(44,601 posts)
24. I'm president of the United states
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:22 PM
Apr 2025

But I don’t know what’s going on. As long as Im hurting people on a daily basis I’m keeping up with my to do list

BOSSHOG

(44,601 posts)
87. Oh yeah
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:25 PM
Apr 2025

The what? I don’t know nothing. I ain’t gonna suffer, that’s why I hire people. Give em high paying government jobs. To protect me while I play stupid. Ya know the art of the deal.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
127. Bondi
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 03:22 PM
Apr 2025

was given a choice of Brain Augmentation or Boob Augmentation........We all know what she chose, along with all the other female republicans surrounding Trump..........

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
130. I am not joking SL
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 11:47 PM
Apr 2025

If you look at pictures years ago of all these countless women Trump appoints or has around him, they are all flat as pancakes
Then they decide to get what I call the prerequisite REPUBLICAN RACK, usually with Lipo, and also major facial plastic surgery and then they are sure to be installed by Trump in his CABAL......

ALBliberal

(3,199 posts)
83. Trump was dealing with a fellow dictator
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:21 PM
Apr 2025

might beg the question: what’s El Salvador’s president up to. Maybe he has been offered a better “deal”.

No honor among thieves and dictators.

 

HereForTheParty

(915 posts)
120. Give the impression he's being treated better than he is?
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:35 AM
Apr 2025

Prove he's alive?

I'm surprised they didn't trot him out in prison garb.

soldierant

(9,254 posts)
129. Definitely to give that impression.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:37 PM
Apr 2025

Lying about margaritas when it's water, for one thing.

Now that Van Hollen's back, he says Kilmar has been "traumatized" (his word.) Not that that's a surprise

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
109. That table looks like it's in a nice lunchroom. Surely that isn't at the notorious prison?!
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:15 AM
Apr 2025

Shipwack

(2,974 posts)
125. As carefully choreographed as a tourist trip to North Korea...
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:05 PM
Apr 2025

... and with as much truth.

They showered him threw some clothes on him, and forced him to wear a ballcap so that no one would see his forcibly shaved head. They also took photos and put them on the net to show how "good" the prisoner has it.

(I got this explanation from someone else on here. I forget who; sorry for lack of attribution.)

brakester

(521 posts)
102. Add to that heros list
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:45 PM
Apr 2025

the appeals court judge that ruled today in no uncertain terms, to bring Abrego Garcia to me!

He laid the law down!!!!

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
20. Contacts for pressure on the Hell Salvador issue. . . nt
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:20 PM
Apr 2025

El Salvadoran Embassy in Washington, D.C.
1400, 16th. Street, NW, Suite 100
Washington, DC 20036
United States

Telephone

(+1) 202-595-7500

Email

infoEEUU@rree.gob.sv
MediaEmbassyUSA@rree.gob.sv
EmbajadaEEUU@rree.gob.sv

--------------

Name Marco Rubio
Position Secretary of State
Entered Office January 20, 2025
Office Room 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500
Phone number (202) 456-1111
email https://sengov.com/whitehouse/marco-rubio/

--------------

Foreign Minister

San Salvador

Calle El Pedregal, Blvd. Cancillería. Ciudad Merliot, Antiguo Cuscatlan, El Salvador. C.A

Ms. Juana Alexandra Hill Tinoco
Minister

jhill@rree.gob.sv

503 2231 1000

www.rree.gob.sv

dweller

(27,776 posts)
15. I sure hope this is real
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:16 PM
Apr 2025

And not some BS AI pic

sorry but I have to ask , these days


✌🏻

Takket

(23,433 posts)
22. did they let him out of the prison for this? That picture surely didn't come from the prison.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:21 PM
Apr 2025

questionseverything

(11,523 posts)
23. I have a lot of questions
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:21 PM
Apr 2025

The picture shows him standing n street clothes at a table, that’s not the impression we have been getting from the shaved head, underwear place

Anxious to hear the rest

not fooled

(6,590 posts)
60. It's possible there was enough time
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:46 PM
Apr 2025

since his kidnapping and imprisonment for some stubble to grow on his head. And giving him some street clothes is an obvious way to make the situation look better. Not saying I know for sure that's what happened, but it's not impossible for him to have been shaved, dressed in the concentration camp garb, etc. initially then "dressed up" for the photos today.

Ms. Toad

(38,092 posts)
86. It's been a month. I'd expect about a half an inch growth in that time.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:24 PM
Apr 2025

And since they permitted the meeting with press present, they aren't going to leave him in prison garb.

kimbutgar

(26,679 posts)
26. Thank you I was so worried he was killed
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:23 PM
Apr 2025

I hope to hear him come home soon to be with his family !

AllyCat

(18,463 posts)
27. This has to make him and his family feel better.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:23 PM
Apr 2025

To at least have some contact.

Thank you Senator Van Hollen.

Response to In It to Win It (Original post)

Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #34)

W_HAMILTON

(10,016 posts)
44. L - O - FUCKING - L.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:34 PM
Apr 2025

Lemme guess, just like you thought it was silly to think Russia would invade Ukraine, you also thought it was silly when people said that this Trump administration would deport American citizens, right? Surely that would never happen, right?



I say thank god he's still alive because if he had been killed, this administration would have done absolutely nothing. He would be dead and there would have been no justice and no one would have been held accountable, not as long as these MAGA fascists are in office. Hell, they are probably sad to hear that he hasn't been killed.

WarGamer

(18,218 posts)
50. One by one.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:40 PM
Apr 2025

1) It was super silly for Putin to invade Ukraine. One of the all time military blunders... just a notch dumber than Hitler and Barbarossa (if you didn't know, that's the 1941 invasion of Russia)

2) Have any Americans been deported?

3) Look... the US is paying them to house prisoners. Why in the world would they discourage future transfers by damaging the merchandise?


Not blaming you... but the delusion level has been high lately.

W_HAMILTON

(10,016 posts)
59. lol, because the same fucking MAGA fascists paying them to illegally detain these people are the same...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:46 PM
Apr 2025

...fucking MAGA fascists that would have no problem paying them to illegally snuff out what is quickly becoming a PR disaster for them.

"Oh boy, El Salvador killed one of those we illegally sent them and defied a court order to facilitate their return, we're going to stop working with that country now!" is something that will never be said by anyone in this Trump administration.

Ms. Toad

(38,092 posts)
88. As to #2 - it's too early to know for this administration - BUT he deported around 70 in his prior administration.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:29 PM
Apr 2025
Available data indicate ICE and CBP took enforcement actions against some U.S. citizens. For example, available ICE data indicate that ICE arrested 674, detained 121, and removed 70 potential U.S. citizens from fiscal year 2015 through the second quarter of fiscal year 2020 (March 2020).


https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-487#summary_recommend

Somehow, I can't imagine he is being more careful this time around, but the data won't be complied for a while.

RandomNumbers

(19,040 posts)
122. Re #2 - perhaps not yet, but they are threatening (2 cases at least)
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:43 AM
Apr 2025
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-email-immigration-leave-country-rcna201698

American doctor receives email from immigration officials telling her to leave the country immediately

Dr. Lisa Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.

April 17, 2025, 9:45 AM EDT
By Matt Lavietes
A doctor born in the United States says she received an email from federal immigration authorities demanding that she leave the country immediately.

Lisa Anderson, a physician from Cromwell, Connecticut, told NBC Connecticut on Wednesday that she recently received a letter from the Department of Homeland Security telling her, “It is time for you to leave the United States."

Immigration authorities have been pushing noncitizens to leave of their own volition, or “self-deport,” as the number of deportations remains at similar levels to last year.

But Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.


ALSO ..

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/15/self-deportation-email-citizen-immigration-lawyer

Homeland security told US-born immigration lawyer to leave country

Email to Massachusetts lawyer warned her to ‘depart the US immediately’ even though removing US citizens is illegal

Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #44)

WarGamer

(18,218 posts)
56. The reason people worry is because they listen to too many people in this world
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:43 PM
Apr 2025

Who make a living out of scaring the hell out of people.

Captain Zero

(8,711 posts)
107. Saw a pic on Reddit & my phone battery zeroed
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:25 PM
Apr 2025

So came here once it juiced up.

Van Hollen shows HOW a representative represents ALL his constituents !!

flamingdem

(40,780 posts)
36. Garcia must have been so surprised!
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:27 PM
Apr 2025

That's good news. Van Hollen is incredible. Wonder who said okay.

GoodRaisin

(10,697 posts)
52. Could be the first sign Krasnov is backing down?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:42 PM
Apr 2025

Maybe he sees the writing on the wall when this arrives again at SCOTUS. Maybe he is getting ready to roll somebody under the bus.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
74. I think Cory Booker is going there...but Van Hollen
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:00 PM
Apr 2025

actually represents Garcia, being from Maryland.

Traildogbob

(12,445 posts)
46. Sued into poverty
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:35 PM
Apr 2025

Last edited Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Is what attorneys for this man need to do as they go after all those assholes calling him terrorist, child smuggler and deadly ganger. Bondi, Noem, Miller, MTG, Gorka et al.
Especially Bondi, and disbarment. And Fox pukes as well.

radical noodle

(10,467 posts)
54. The NY Times says he was turned away
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:42 PM
Apr 2025
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/us/politics/senator-chris-van-hollen-el-salvador-prison.html

About a mile and a half from a maximum-security Salvadoran prison on Thursday, Senator Chris Van Hollen’s caravan was brought to an abrupt halt by a military roadblock.


Mr. Van Hollen and Chris Newman, a lawyer representing Mr. Abrego Garcia’s family, were denied their request to visit the prison, known as CECOT, and forced to turn back. The refusal of entry came a day after El Salvador’s vice president rejected Mr. Van Hollen’s formal appeal for a meeting or even a phone call with Mr. Abrego Garcia.

“Our purpose today was very straightforward,” Mr. Van Hollen said in an interview on Thursday. “It was simply to be able to go see if Kilmar Abrego Garcia is doing OK. I mean, nobody has heard anything about his condition since he was illegally abducted from the United States. He is totally beyond reach.”


“This was a very sort of simple humanitarian request,” Mr. Van Hollen said soon after the stop. “They said they were ordered not to allow us to proceed any further.”


I wonder what is really true? (although I think seeing Garcia in a baseball cap and plaid shirt might be questionable under the circumstances)

Response to In It to Win It (Reply #64)

dweller

(27,776 posts)
68. Wow really updated
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:52 PM
Apr 2025

A version of this article appears in print on April 18, 2025, Section A, Page 17 of the New York edition with the headline: Military Blocks Senator Seeking to Visit Deportee Held in Salvadoran Prison. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe

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Pinback

(13,485 posts)
72. Hot damn
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:55 PM
Apr 2025

So glad. Now, let’s get him out of there or start putting some people in jail for contempt of court.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
69. I think they both are...if his meeting with Garcia took place
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:53 PM
Apr 2025

after he had the presser this afternoon, because at that time he had not been granted access. It looks like the meeting place did not happen where he was detained. If you click the link on bluesky you'll see. But then again, in this day and age I can't believe a flipping thing. It's crazy.

niyad

(129,333 posts)
65. What is with those weird, contradictory messages ostensibly from "the
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:48 PM
Apr 2025

coolest dictator in the world"???

cbabe

(6,127 posts)
67. Any more names of wrongly imprisoned. I'd like to mention when I make calls ie comment twenty.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:50 PM
Apr 2025

senseandsensibility

(24,205 posts)
73. Rachel covering now!
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 08:59 PM
Apr 2025

Unfortunately, while she was speaking there was something with the audio speeding up and slowing down and it was garbled. Anyone else hear what she said? There were pictures on the screen of Garcia and Van Hollen sitting outside.

brakester

(521 posts)
108. I watch Maddow
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:31 PM
Apr 2025

on YouTube and about 8 or 9 minutes in, there are strange video clips that start playing.
I hope I'm not missing a minute of her.
Does anyone know any more about this, and where can I watch the real program?

Prairie Gates

(7,129 posts)
85. I hear some Putinite trashbags are saying that even wondering about whether he was dead
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:23 PM
Apr 2025

was silly.

They only bend to pressure. The widespread speculation (no, not just here) about whether he was alive is why they produced him, period.

iluvtennis

(21,453 posts)
96. So, so happy to read this - I thought for sure that the thugs that run that prision had murdered him.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:12 PM
Apr 2025

Bettie

(19,219 posts)
98. Got to admit
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:16 PM
Apr 2025

I am surprised that he is still alive.

Great that the Senator kept trying. Perseverance seems to be uncommon these days.

Hassler

(4,739 posts)
110. This is great news. For the nation
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 01:18 AM
Apr 2025

We know he's alive, giving us hope. But more importantly for Kilmar. He knows he's not forgotten, giving him hope. Kudos to Van Hollen

blogslug

(39,077 posts)
112. This nasty detail from the NYT article
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 02:51 AM
Apr 2025
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/us/politics/senator-chris-van-hollen-el-salvador-prison.html

archive link: https://archive.ph/blTov

Mr. Bukele, in a social media post, even crowed that “Kilmar Abrego Garcia, miraculously risen from the ‘death camps’ & ‘torture,’” was “now sipping margaritas with Sen. Van Hollen in the tropical paradise of El Salvador!” But according to a person familiar with the situation, a Bukele aide placed the two glasses with cherries and salted rims on the table in front of Mr. Van Hollen and Mr. Abrego Garcia in the middle of their meeting in an attempt to stage the photo.


wolfie001

(6,954 posts)
115. Kudos to Senator Van Hollen!
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:52 AM
Apr 2025

All good Americans wanted to see him and make sure he's still with us! He's looking somewhat healthy. The other Americans who are still hating can go f6ck themselves. Get that man back to Maryland!!!

LS_Editor

(920 posts)
116. Now what?
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 05:53 AM
Apr 2025

Glad he's alive, but they aren't releasing him and Trump isn't going to request thsy El Slavador does that.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
117. Officials probably heard that we thought they might have killed him
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 06:29 AM
Apr 2025

So they trotted him out. Still need to let him go.

peacebuzzard

(5,792 posts)
119. Senator Van Hollen is my new hero
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 07:47 AM
Apr 2025

There's a lot of drama here, which makes me grateful I do not have MSM readily available in order to maintain my emotional well-being and blood pressure.
I have yet to sign up on Bluesky. The last time I visited the site, it seemed like a hard-to-find and disorganized location for current events. Maybe it's changed, and most of the news is indeed disseminated verifiably.
DU posters are the best in the world; I get all I need about current events from here.

In it to Win it, I am grateful to read your post, and all the comments on these evolving and tragic current events. I hope all this is true and the Senator comes back safely and has exposed this tragedy somewhat.

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