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In It to Win It

(10,477 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:10 PM Apr 17

BREAKING: Senator Chris Van Hollen says he met with Kilmar Abrego Garcia tonight

https://bsky.app/profile/annabower.bsky.social/post/3ln2gizqsb224

https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3ln2gcpf6js2m

Anna Bower
‪@annabower.bsky.social‬
BREAKING: Senator Chris Van Hollen says he met with Kilmar Abrego Garcia tonight

“I said my main goal of this trip was to meet with Kilmar. Tonight I had that chance,” Van Hollen tweeted.

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BREAKING: Senator Chris Van Hollen says he met with Kilmar Abrego Garcia tonight (Original Post) In It to Win It Apr 17 OP
Wow senseandsensibility Apr 17 #1
I thought Booker was going today and that Van Hollen left yesterday Deuxcents Apr 17 #4
That was my understanding too senseandsensibility Apr 17 #9
This is good, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 17 #2
Now that Garcia's profile has been raised with all this publicity and the work of Sen. Van Hollen,... magicarpet Apr 17 #31
Yep. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 17 #80
I'd imagine canetoad Apr 17 #32
Amen to that MCE DENVERPOPS Apr 18 #126
I'm doing ok, although, thanks to Been A Dick Donald, I'm paying more, not less like he promised, MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #131
Good to hear from you DENVERPOPS Saturday #132
Well then, I'll take you up on the offer of food, but not filling up both of my 150 gal. fuel tanks, MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #134
At least let me contribute to your Diesel DENVERPOPS Saturday #136
I look forward to meeting you IRL, MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #138
Hey DENVERPOPS Saturday #133
I get the sense that Been A Dick Donald and his criminal cabal have now stepped over the line MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #135
My thinking is DENVERPOPS Saturday #137
Thank God he's alive The Blue Flower Apr 17 #3
So was I--thank God!! ailsagirl Apr 17 #92
That happened real fast after today's court ruling. /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 17 #5
WOW! I am sooooo pleased to see this. Maybe there is hope yet... hlthe2b Apr 17 #6
What shenanigans is trump up to? BOSSHOG Apr 17 #7
Great question SheltieLover Apr 17 #16
I'm president of the United states BOSSHOG Apr 17 #24
All roads lead to russia SheltieLover Apr 17 #40
"You" would be impeachable. Marcuse Apr 17 #82
No knowledge? I would normally agree that he's clueless but in this case I'll call BS. Dave Bowman Apr 17 #47
Oh yeah BOSSHOG Apr 17 #87
Yeah, the art of the deal: Dave Bowman Apr 17 #100
Bondi DENVERPOPS Apr 18 #127
Lol SheltieLover Apr 18 #128
I am not joking SL DENVERPOPS Saturday #130
Trump was dealing with a fellow dictator ALBliberal Apr 17 #83
Give the impression he's being treated better than he is? HereForTheParty Apr 18 #120
Definitely to give that impression. soldierant Apr 18 #129
Holy crackers! Wow. Not over, but he's alive And well enough to be sitting at a table electric_blue68 Apr 17 #8
That table looks like it's in a nice lunchroom. Surely that isn't at the notorious prison?! LauraInLA Apr 18 #109
I think they went to a restaurant electric_blue68 Apr 18 #124
As carefully choreographed as a tourist trip to North Korea... Shipwack Apr 18 #125
Thank you Senator Chris Van Hollen! yardwork Apr 17 #10
Oh indeed sends good chills down my spine! PortTack Apr 17 #21
I am crying ailsagirl Apr 17 #94
Add to that heros list brakester Apr 17 #102
Well done, senator. Ping Tung Apr 17 #11
Public opinion is getting to them. everyonematters Apr 17 #12
Contacts for pressure on the Hell Salvador issue. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 17 #20
THANK YOU!!! niyad Apr 17 #49
Results! Keep going Democrats! . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 17 #13
So glad. Now keep applying pressure Stinky The Clown Apr 17 #14
Yes, because there are others there who did not have due process Deuxcents Apr 17 #17
I sure hope this is real dweller Apr 17 #15
Gotta keep up the pressure now. Don't back down Democrats. La Coliniere Apr 17 #18
Best news! Restores my faith in our ability to fight the good fight and win! PortTack Apr 17 #19
did they let him out of the prison for this? That picture surely didn't come from the prison. Takket Apr 17 #22
I think they met in a hotel womanofthehills Apr 17 #77
I have a lot of questions questionseverything Apr 17 #23
It's possible there was enough time not fooled Apr 17 #60
It's been a month. I'd expect about a half an inch growth in that time. Ms. Toad Apr 17 #86
I'm sure they cleaned him up, glad he seems ok questionseverything Apr 18 #113
Thank God he's alive. Joinfortmill Apr 17 #25
My first thought exactly. Scrivener7 Apr 17 #51
Thank you I was so worried he was killed kimbutgar Apr 17 #26
This has to make him and his family feel better. AllyCat Apr 17 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Apr 17 #28
And he has a clean sport shirt dweller Apr 17 #33
Oh, you! W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Apr 17 #39
L - O - FUCKING - L. W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #44
One by one. WarGamer Apr 17 #50
lol, because the same fucking MAGA fascists paying them to illegally detain these people are the same... W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #59
As to #2 - it's too early to know for this administration - BUT he deported around 70 in his prior administration. Ms. Toad Apr 17 #88
why did they add the adjective "potential" to citizens? WarGamer Apr 17 #99
Maybe they were brakester Apr 18 #105
Re #2 - perhaps not yet, but they are threatening (2 cases at least) RandomNumbers Apr 18 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Apr 17 #55
Yeah, human beings being worried then relieved is hillarious. Dave Bowman Apr 17 #53
The reason people worry is because they listen to too many people in this world WarGamer Apr 17 #56
The reason people worry is MadameButterfly Apr 17 #75
Go Chiefs GusBob Apr 17 #37
I saw that! Lulu KC Apr 17 #61
Your LOL is way out of place NoRethugFriends Apr 17 #43
Creepy AF. Scrivener7 Apr 17 #81
But unsurpising NoRethugFriends Apr 17 #103
This is what TRUE LEADERSHIP looks like. Thank you, Senator Van Hollen. W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #29
Just coming to make sure the news spreads Maeve Apr 17 #30
Saw a pic on Reddit & my phone battery zeroed Captain Zero Apr 18 #107
What a relief! mcar Apr 17 #35
Garcia must have been so surprised! flamingdem Apr 17 #36
The dicktator wannabe. mobeau69 Apr 17 #48
Could be the first sign Krasnov is backing down? GoodRaisin Apr 17 #52
He's alive! Phew!! Bravo!! nt babylonsister Apr 17 #38
GASP Mike 03 Apr 17 #41
what a great thing he did, hope other dems will follow the lead AlexSFCA Apr 17 #42
I think Cory Booker is going there...but Van Hollen stillcool Apr 17 #74
Thank goodness! Walleye Apr 17 #45
Sued into poverty Traildogbob Apr 17 #46
. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 17 #91
The NY Times says he was turned away radical noodle Apr 17 #54
That struck me as odd too senseandsensibility Apr 17 #58
The NYT story has been updated In It to Win It Apr 17 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author senseandsensibility Apr 17 #70
Oh great!! Thanks! radical noodle Apr 17 #79
Updated story In It to Win It Apr 17 #62
Wow really updated dweller Apr 17 #68
Hot damn Pinback Apr 17 #72
There are NO updates on Van Hollen's Gov page dweller Apr 17 #63
I think they both are...if his meeting with Garcia took place stillcool Apr 17 #69
Here's Rosetta Tharpe struggle4progress Apr 17 #57
What is with those weird, contradictory messages ostensibly from "the niyad Apr 17 #65
He's alive thank goodness proud patriot Apr 17 #66
Any more names of wrongly imprisoned. I'd like to mention when I make calls ie comment twenty. cbabe Apr 17 #67
Good Solly Mack Apr 17 #71
Rachel covering now! senseandsensibility Apr 17 #73
I watch Maddow brakester Apr 18 #108
I just got the same update from Axios 😂 soldierant Apr 17 #76
I feel like an old lost friend just walked into my life. chouchou Apr 17 #78
OUTSTANDING orangecrush Apr 17 #84
I hear some Putinite trashbags are saying that even wondering about whether he was dead Prairie Gates Apr 17 #85
I hadn't seen any Putinite trashbags claim that. WarGamer Apr 17 #101
I have. W_HAMILTON Apr 18 #114
So why not release him and let him fly back with the senator? mackdaddy Apr 17 #89
nice to see some good news -- good job, and thank you, Senator fishwax Apr 17 #90
K&R spanone Apr 17 #93
"" AllaN01Bear Apr 17 #95
So, so happy to read this - I thought for sure that the thugs that run that prision had murdered him. iluvtennis Apr 17 #96
Too bad TSF is so fearful of the dictator or Sneederbunk Apr 17 #97
Got to admit Bettie Apr 17 #98
Right? Orrex Apr 17 #104
Way to go, Senator! Thank you. Buddyzbuddy Apr 18 #106
This is great news. For the nation Hassler Apr 18 #110
Great news 👏🏻👏🏻 Meowmee Apr 18 #111
This nasty detail from the NYT article blogslug Apr 18 #112
Kudos to Senator Van Hollen! wolfie001 Apr 18 #115
Now what? LS_Editor Apr 18 #116
Officials probably heard that we thought they might have killed him alarimer Apr 18 #117
He is my senator. Im so proud he did this. OLDMDDEM Apr 18 #118
Senator Van Hollen is my new hero peacebuzzard Apr 18 #119
Well done! Thus exposing, once again, Trump's lies. Martin68 Apr 18 #121
Thank god karin_sj Apr 18 #123

senseandsensibility

(21,738 posts)
9. That was my understanding too
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:14 PM
Apr 17

Really hoping this is true. Haven't heard anything on MSNBC but I'm watching on a slight delay.

magicarpet

(18,082 posts)
31. Now that Garcia's profile has been raised with all this publicity and the work of Sen. Van Hollen,...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:25 PM
Apr 17

.... it is now doubtful this "prisoner" will be treated with less than the kid gloves treatment. The spotlight and heat is on - Thank You Senator Van Hollen.

Now put him on a plane and send him home. Fuck don-OLD and his merry team of trDUMPSTERS.




MarineCombatEngineer

(15,136 posts)
80. Yep.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:15 PM
Apr 17

He's now too high profile to have him disappear into an unmarked grave.
He needs to be sent back home, like yesterday.

DENVERPOPS

(11,853 posts)
126. Amen to that MCE
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:18 PM
Apr 18

Of course today, the Republican Congress are not going to allow the trip to be charged to the U.S. Government, and are saying he has to pay for it out of his pocket....

How you doing? Infamous "Springtime In The Rockies" here.......(snowing)

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,136 posts)
131. I'm doing ok, although, thanks to Been A Dick Donald, I'm paying more, not less like he promised,
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:32 AM
Saturday

for diesel fuel.
Right now, my truck is at the Phoenix Peterbilt facility getting her B service, a deep clean and 4 new drive tires, then it's back on the road.

I love traveling through CO. such a beautiful state, with or without the snow, I remember my first trip through the Eisenhower Tunnel, what feat of engineering!!!

Stay safe, stay warm my friend, someday, when I'm coming through your neck of the woods, we'll have to get together, have a meal, on me of course, and shoot the breeze.

DENVERPOPS

(11,853 posts)
132. Good to hear from you
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 01:22 PM
Saturday

If you come this way, remember I offered YOU a fill up of Diesel, and a meal to help you out!!!!!

The whole front range, and especially Denver has become massively overcrowded these past few years, with people coming here to live. There are license plates everywhere from Florida, Texas and California. Traffic is un-fathomable.........
Denver is THE car theft capitol of the U.S. Same with crimes with Guns, and road rage drivers, esp around Denver......

The State Patrol, (really good guys by the way) recently stated that they noticed a remarkable increase in road rage starting after the November election, and still continuing....

Stay safe, and forever cautious, my friend....

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,136 posts)
134. Well then, I'll take you up on the offer of food, but not filling up both of my 150 gal. fuel tanks,
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:08 PM
Saturday

at about $3.80 a gallon, it would cost you about $1000.00 to fill my tanks, plus there is the cost of filling the DEF tank, so, I think it would be sufficient to let me buy the fuel while you pay for a meal.

I hope to be going through Denver soon as it's going on the warmer season, I do hate driving through the snow and ice and having to chain up.

Stay frosty my friend and, god willing, we'll get together soon and discuss what a POS this admin is.

DENVERPOPS

(11,853 posts)
136. At least let me contribute to your Diesel
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 05:20 PM
Saturday

Your work is far more important to you and your customers than anything I am doing........

None of my biggest problems are money at this point in my life, good friend.......

I will look forward to meeting you.........we just need a way to communicate other than on this site.....

DENVERPOPS

(11,853 posts)
133. Hey
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 02:30 PM
Saturday

did you see the MIDNIGHT convening of the Entire Supreme court in the middle of the night last night and their ruling IN THE FACE, of Trump and Republican Party???? Trump was about to fly hundreds more to El Salvador this weekend, ignoring the USSC previous ruling that he can not do that.........

Little does the USSC, the Republicans in the U.S. House and U.S Senate, realize that in a Tyranny/Dictatorship there is
No need for all of them as there is no Legislative or Judicial branches of government, and they will be kicked to the curb, now that they have fulfilled their usefulness in getting him to this point....

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,136 posts)
135. I get the sense that Been A Dick Donald and his criminal cabal have now stepped over the line
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:13 PM
Saturday

and the SCOTUS has had enough of his shit and are starting to push back, what they need to do now is revisit their ruling that presidents have almost total immunity from what they do while in office and I think, and this is only my opinion, they are in discussion over this travesty of justice.

DENVERPOPS

(11,853 posts)
137. My thinking is
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 05:23 PM
Saturday

that they feel he has gone too far, too fast, and merely want to slow him down until more progress has been accomplished in the shadows..............

SheltieLover

(66,855 posts)
16. Great question
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:18 PM
Apr 17

Since he is now saying he has no knowledge of this situation, thereby throwing brainless bondi under the bus, I'm gonna guess someone in the courts told him shit is going to get real. 🤞🤞🤞

BOSSHOG

(42,156 posts)
24. I'm president of the United states
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:22 PM
Apr 17

But I don’t know what’s going on. As long as Im hurting people on a daily basis I’m keeping up with my to do list

BOSSHOG

(42,156 posts)
87. Oh yeah
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:25 PM
Apr 17

The what? I don’t know nothing. I ain’t gonna suffer, that’s why I hire people. Give em high paying government jobs. To protect me while I play stupid. Ya know the art of the deal.

DENVERPOPS

(11,853 posts)
127. Bondi
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:22 PM
Apr 18

was given a choice of Brain Augmentation or Boob Augmentation........We all know what she chose, along with all the other female republicans surrounding Trump..........

DENVERPOPS

(11,853 posts)
130. I am not joking SL
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:47 AM
Saturday

If you look at pictures years ago of all these countless women Trump appoints or has around him, they are all flat as pancakes
Then they decide to get what I call the prerequisite REPUBLICAN RACK, usually with Lipo, and also major facial plastic surgery and then they are sure to be installed by Trump in his CABAL......

ALBliberal

(3,013 posts)
83. Trump was dealing with a fellow dictator
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:21 PM
Apr 17

might beg the question: what’s El Salvador’s president up to. Maybe he has been offered a better “deal”.

No honor among thieves and dictators.

HereForTheParty

(851 posts)
120. Give the impression he's being treated better than he is?
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:35 AM
Apr 18

Prove he's alive?

I'm surprised they didn't trot him out in prison garb.

soldierant

(8,411 posts)
129. Definitely to give that impression.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 05:37 PM
Apr 18

Lying about margaritas when it's water, for one thing.

Now that Van Hollen's back, he says Kilmar has been "traumatized" (his word.) Not that that's a surprise

Shipwack

(2,616 posts)
125. As carefully choreographed as a tourist trip to North Korea...
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 02:05 PM
Apr 18

... and with as much truth.

They showered him threw some clothes on him, and forced him to wear a ballcap so that no one would see his forcibly shaved head. They also took photos and put them on the net to show how "good" the prisoner has it.

(I got this explanation from someone else on here. I forget who; sorry for lack of attribution.)

brakester

(332 posts)
102. Add to that heros list
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:45 PM
Apr 17

the appeals court judge that ruled today in no uncertain terms, to bring Abrego Garcia to me!

He laid the law down!!!!

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,867 posts)
20. Contacts for pressure on the Hell Salvador issue. . . nt
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:20 PM
Apr 17

El Salvadoran Embassy in Washington, D.C.
1400, 16th. Street, NW, Suite 100
Washington, DC 20036
United States

Telephone

(+1) 202-595-7500

Email

infoEEUU@rree.gob.sv
MediaEmbassyUSA@rree.gob.sv
EmbajadaEEUU@rree.gob.sv

--------------

Name Marco Rubio
Position Secretary of State
Entered Office January 20, 2025
Office Room 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500
Phone number (202) 456-1111
email https://sengov.com/whitehouse/marco-rubio/

--------------

Foreign Minister

San Salvador

Calle El Pedregal, Blvd. Cancillería. Ciudad Merliot, Antiguo Cuscatlan, El Salvador. C.A

Ms. Juana Alexandra Hill Tinoco
Minister

jhill@rree.gob.sv

503 2231 1000

www.rree.gob.sv

Takket

(22,940 posts)
22. did they let him out of the prison for this? That picture surely didn't come from the prison.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:21 PM
Apr 17

questionseverything

(10,736 posts)
23. I have a lot of questions
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:21 PM
Apr 17

The picture shows him standing n street clothes at a table, that’s not the impression we have been getting from the shaved head, underwear place

Anxious to hear the rest

not fooled

(6,233 posts)
60. It's possible there was enough time
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:46 PM
Apr 17

since his kidnapping and imprisonment for some stubble to grow on his head. And giving him some street clothes is an obvious way to make the situation look better. Not saying I know for sure that's what happened, but it's not impossible for him to have been shaved, dressed in the concentration camp garb, etc. initially then "dressed up" for the photos today.

Ms. Toad

(36,720 posts)
86. It's been a month. I'd expect about a half an inch growth in that time.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:24 PM
Apr 17

And since they permitted the meeting with press present, they aren't going to leave him in prison garb.

kimbutgar

(24,911 posts)
26. Thank you I was so worried he was killed
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:23 PM
Apr 17

I hope to hear him come home soon to be with his family !

AllyCat

(17,842 posts)
27. This has to make him and his family feel better.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:23 PM
Apr 17

To at least have some contact.

Thank you Senator Van Hollen.

Response to In It to Win It (Original post)

Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #34)

W_HAMILTON

(8,927 posts)
44. L - O - FUCKING - L.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:34 PM
Apr 17

Lemme guess, just like you thought it was silly to think Russia would invade Ukraine, you also thought it was silly when people said that this Trump administration would deport American citizens, right? Surely that would never happen, right?



I say thank god he's still alive because if he had been killed, this administration would have done absolutely nothing. He would be dead and there would have been no justice and no one would have been held accountable, not as long as these MAGA fascists are in office. Hell, they are probably sad to hear that he hasn't been killed.

WarGamer

(16,990 posts)
50. One by one.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:40 PM
Apr 17

1) It was super silly for Putin to invade Ukraine. One of the all time military blunders... just a notch dumber than Hitler and Barbarossa (if you didn't know, that's the 1941 invasion of Russia)

2) Have any Americans been deported?

3) Look... the US is paying them to house prisoners. Why in the world would they discourage future transfers by damaging the merchandise?


Not blaming you... but the delusion level has been high lately.

W_HAMILTON

(8,927 posts)
59. lol, because the same fucking MAGA fascists paying them to illegally detain these people are the same...
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:46 PM
Apr 17

...fucking MAGA fascists that would have no problem paying them to illegally snuff out what is quickly becoming a PR disaster for them.

"Oh boy, El Salvador killed one of those we illegally sent them and defied a court order to facilitate their return, we're going to stop working with that country now!" is something that will never be said by anyone in this Trump administration.

Ms. Toad

(36,720 posts)
88. As to #2 - it's too early to know for this administration - BUT he deported around 70 in his prior administration.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:29 PM
Apr 17
Available data indicate ICE and CBP took enforcement actions against some U.S. citizens. For example, available ICE data indicate that ICE arrested 674, detained 121, and removed 70 potential U.S. citizens from fiscal year 2015 through the second quarter of fiscal year 2020 (March 2020).


https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-487#summary_recommend

Somehow, I can't imagine he is being more careful this time around, but the data won't be complied for a while.

RandomNumbers

(18,555 posts)
122. Re #2 - perhaps not yet, but they are threatening (2 cases at least)
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 10:43 AM
Apr 18
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/doctor-email-immigration-leave-country-rcna201698

American doctor receives email from immigration officials telling her to leave the country immediately

Dr. Lisa Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.

April 17, 2025, 9:45 AM EDT
By Matt Lavietes
A doctor born in the United States says she received an email from federal immigration authorities demanding that she leave the country immediately.

Lisa Anderson, a physician from Cromwell, Connecticut, told NBC Connecticut on Wednesday that she recently received a letter from the Department of Homeland Security telling her, “It is time for you to leave the United States."

Immigration authorities have been pushing noncitizens to leave of their own volition, or “self-deport,” as the number of deportations remains at similar levels to last year.

But Anderson, 58, was born in Pennsylvania and is a U.S. citizen.


ALSO ..

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/15/self-deportation-email-citizen-immigration-lawyer

Homeland security told US-born immigration lawyer to leave country

Email to Massachusetts lawyer warned her to ‘depart the US immediately’ even though removing US citizens is illegal

Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #44)

WarGamer

(16,990 posts)
56. The reason people worry is because they listen to too many people in this world
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:43 PM
Apr 17

Who make a living out of scaring the hell out of people.

Captain Zero

(7,824 posts)
107. Saw a pic on Reddit & my phone battery zeroed
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:25 AM
Apr 18

So came here once it juiced up.

Van Hollen shows HOW a representative represents ALL his constituents !!

flamingdem

(40,376 posts)
36. Garcia must have been so surprised!
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:27 PM
Apr 17

That's good news. Van Hollen is incredible. Wonder who said okay.

GoodRaisin

(10,123 posts)
52. Could be the first sign Krasnov is backing down?
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:42 PM
Apr 17

Maybe he sees the writing on the wall when this arrives again at SCOTUS. Maybe he is getting ready to roll somebody under the bus.

stillcool

(33,679 posts)
74. I think Cory Booker is going there...but Van Hollen
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:00 PM
Apr 17

actually represents Garcia, being from Maryland.

Traildogbob

(11,007 posts)
46. Sued into poverty
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:35 PM
Apr 17

Last edited Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Is what attorneys for this man need to do as they go after all those assholes calling him terrorist, child smuggler and deadly ganger. Bondi, Noem, Miller, MTG, Gorka et al.
Especially Bondi, and disbarment. And Fox pukes as well.

radical noodle

(10,000 posts)
54. The NY Times says he was turned away
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:42 PM
Apr 17
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/us/politics/senator-chris-van-hollen-el-salvador-prison.html

About a mile and a half from a maximum-security Salvadoran prison on Thursday, Senator Chris Van Hollen’s caravan was brought to an abrupt halt by a military roadblock.


Mr. Van Hollen and Chris Newman, a lawyer representing Mr. Abrego Garcia’s family, were denied their request to visit the prison, known as CECOT, and forced to turn back. The refusal of entry came a day after El Salvador’s vice president rejected Mr. Van Hollen’s formal appeal for a meeting or even a phone call with Mr. Abrego Garcia.

“Our purpose today was very straightforward,” Mr. Van Hollen said in an interview on Thursday. “It was simply to be able to go see if Kilmar Abrego Garcia is doing OK. I mean, nobody has heard anything about his condition since he was illegally abducted from the United States. He is totally beyond reach.”


“This was a very sort of simple humanitarian request,” Mr. Van Hollen said soon after the stop. “They said they were ordered not to allow us to proceed any further.”


I wonder what is really true? (although I think seeing Garcia in a baseball cap and plaid shirt might be questionable under the circumstances)

Response to In It to Win It (Reply #64)

dweller

(26,452 posts)
68. Wow really updated
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:52 PM
Apr 17

A version of this article appears in print on April 18, 2025, Section A, Page 17 of the New York edition with the headline: Military Blocks Senator Seeking to Visit Deportee Held in Salvadoran Prison. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe

😐



✌🏻

Pinback

(13,170 posts)
72. Hot damn
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:55 PM
Apr 17

So glad. Now, let’s get him out of there or start putting some people in jail for contempt of court.

stillcool

(33,679 posts)
69. I think they both are...if his meeting with Garcia took place
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:53 PM
Apr 17

after he had the presser this afternoon, because at that time he had not been granted access. It looks like the meeting place did not happen where he was detained. If you click the link on bluesky you'll see. But then again, in this day and age I can't believe a flipping thing. It's crazy.

niyad

(123,359 posts)
65. What is with those weird, contradictory messages ostensibly from "the
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:48 PM
Apr 17

coolest dictator in the world"???

cbabe

(4,906 posts)
67. Any more names of wrongly imprisoned. I'd like to mention when I make calls ie comment twenty.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:50 PM
Apr 17

senseandsensibility

(21,738 posts)
73. Rachel covering now!
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:59 PM
Apr 17

Unfortunately, while she was speaking there was something with the audio speeding up and slowing down and it was garbled. Anyone else hear what she said? There were pictures on the screen of Garcia and Van Hollen sitting outside.

brakester

(332 posts)
108. I watch Maddow
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 12:31 AM
Apr 18

on YouTube and about 8 or 9 minutes in, there are strange video clips that start playing.
I hope I'm not missing a minute of her.
Does anyone know any more about this, and where can I watch the real program?

Prairie Gates

(4,914 posts)
85. I hear some Putinite trashbags are saying that even wondering about whether he was dead
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 10:23 PM
Apr 17

was silly.

They only bend to pressure. The widespread speculation (no, not just here) about whether he was alive is why they produced him, period.

iluvtennis

(21,156 posts)
96. So, so happy to read this - I thought for sure that the thugs that run that prision had murdered him.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:12 PM
Apr 17

Bettie

(18,183 posts)
98. Got to admit
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:16 PM
Apr 17

I am surprised that he is still alive.

Great that the Senator kept trying. Perseverance seems to be uncommon these days.

Hassler

(4,267 posts)
110. This is great news. For the nation
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 02:18 AM
Apr 18

We know he's alive, giving us hope. But more importantly for Kilmar. He knows he's not forgotten, giving him hope. Kudos to Van Hollen

blogslug

(38,795 posts)
112. This nasty detail from the NYT article
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 03:51 AM
Apr 18
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/us/politics/senator-chris-van-hollen-el-salvador-prison.html

archive link: https://archive.ph/blTov

Mr. Bukele, in a social media post, even crowed that “Kilmar Abrego Garcia, miraculously risen from the ‘death camps’ & ‘torture,’” was “now sipping margaritas with Sen. Van Hollen in the tropical paradise of El Salvador!” But according to a person familiar with the situation, a Bukele aide placed the two glasses with cherries and salted rims on the table in front of Mr. Van Hollen and Mr. Abrego Garcia in the middle of their meeting in an attempt to stage the photo.


wolfie001

(4,709 posts)
115. Kudos to Senator Van Hollen!
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 05:52 AM
Apr 18

All good Americans wanted to see him and make sure he's still with us! He's looking somewhat healthy. The other Americans who are still hating can go f6ck themselves. Get that man back to Maryland!!!

LS_Editor

(920 posts)
116. Now what?
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 06:53 AM
Apr 18

Glad he's alive, but they aren't releasing him and Trump isn't going to request thsy El Slavador does that.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
117. Officials probably heard that we thought they might have killed him
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 07:29 AM
Apr 18

So they trotted him out. Still need to let him go.

peacebuzzard

(5,475 posts)
119. Senator Van Hollen is my new hero
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 08:47 AM
Apr 18

There's a lot of drama here, which makes me grateful I do not have MSM readily available in order to maintain my emotional well-being and blood pressure.
I have yet to sign up on Bluesky. The last time I visited the site, it seemed like a hard-to-find and disorganized location for current events. Maybe it's changed, and most of the news is indeed disseminated verifiably.
DU posters are the best in the world; I get all I need about current events from here.

In it to Win it, I am grateful to read your post, and all the comments on these evolving and tragic current events. I hope all this is true and the Senator comes back safely and has exposed this tragedy somewhat.

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