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WarGamer

(16,990 posts)
4. misleading.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 02:33 AM
Saturday

SCOTUS said allow 5th Circuit to finish... no judgement on merit of case.

SCOTUS even invited them back once the 5th Circuit has taken an action.

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,038 posts)
6. Do you ever tire of being wrong?
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:30 PM
Saturday

Both SCOTUS and the Fifth Circuit were promised no deportation without notice. The SCOTUS chose not to trust the trump administration



The only explanation I can see for the Supreme Court's extraordinary 7-2 order that directs the Trump administration "not to remove any member of the putative class of detainees from the United States until further order of this Court" is that the Court does not trust the Trump administration to abide by its promise to the district court. And given how unworthy of trust the Trump administration has proven to be, that's an ample explanation.

From the SCOTUS order

The Fifth Circuit was relying on the trump lies.promises

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LetMyPeopleVote

(162,038 posts)
9. Thank you for the laughs
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:39 PM
Saturday

The SCOTUS had the same set of facts before it and chose not to trust trump. Here are some facts for you to ignore or not undertand
https://democraticunderground.com/100220253617

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LetMyPeopleVote

(162,038 posts)
15. As legal fight raged, ICE buses filled with Venezuelans heading toward airport turned around, video shows
Sun Apr 20, 2025, 03:54 PM
Sunday

The trump DOJ was in the process of deporting a good number of detainees without giving them any real due process. The order from SCOTUS stopped a good number of detainees from being deported.
https://bsky.app/profile/laurenmeidasa.bsky.social/post/3lnaoycj5o225



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/legal-fight-raged-ice-buses-filled-venezuelans-heading-airport-turned-rcna202007

Video from Friday night shows Immigration and Customs Enforcement buses full of Venezuelan migrants headed toward an airport in North Texas before abruptly turning around before the Supreme Court ruled the Trump administration must, for now, refrain from deporting Venezuelan men based in the state under the Alien Enemies Act.

At least 28 detainees — most, if not all, understood to be Venezuelan nationals — were placed on buses Friday evening at ICE’s Bluebonnet Detention Center in Anson, Texas, and then driven toward Abilene Airport about 30 miles away.

The motorcade — including at least 18 squad cars from various law enforcement agencies with flashing lights along the north Texas highways — left the ICE facility, with some men on board being told they were being deported to El Salvador and some told they were headed to Venezuela, according to the wife of one of the detainees and two lawyers representing other detainees at the facility. Prior to their departure, it was not clear what their destinations would be.

The video, obtained exclusively by NBC News, shows the ICE motorcade pass the airport’s exit and then turn around, looping back to return to the Bluebonnet detention facility.

The Trump administration is seeking to deport the men, who it says are members of the Tren de Aragua gang. It remains unclear whether the government has the authority to apply the Alien Enemies Act to gang members outside of a war situation, and whether adjudications about gang membership are accurate.

The administration has asked the Supreme Court to stop its pause on these would-be deportation flights.

xuplate

(83 posts)
5. Hard to accept that
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:17 AM
Saturday

Two Supreme Court justices actually dissented from affirming our democracy. They should be impeached.

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,038 posts)
8. 'Basically never happens': Legal expert singles out Alito slight in overnight Trump ruling
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:38 PM
Saturday

This made me laugh. When there is a dissent in ruling like this, the majority normally waits until the dissent is drafted and publishes the dissent with the opinion. Here the 7 justice majority did not wait for Alito's dissent. SCOTUS is tried of trump and did not wait for Alito's dissent
https://bsky.app/profile/realtuckfrumper.bsky.social/post/3ln6rhyox2j2p



https://www.rawstory.com/alito-dissent/

In a series of posts on BlueSky, Slate legal analyst Mark Joseph Stern suggested the majority of justices on the Supreme Court appear to be angry with Donald Trump's administration's attempt to swiftly deport more immigrants in Texas while there are still questions about its legality.

Noting that seven of the nine justices on the conservative-majority court stepped in to stop the Alien Enemies Act rendition flight with an order issued at 1:30 AM, Stern pointed out that Justices Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas dissented but were not given time to publish their reasoning.

As he wrote on BlueSky, "Obviously, a huge victory for the migrants here and a major defeat for Trump’s lawless effort to rush out a rendition flight before the courts could act. But also—potentially a massive signal from the Supreme Court that it is finally prepared to go toe to toe with Trump to halt AEA deportations.".....

In particular, he noted Alito would be publishing his dissent at a later time after that the rest of the court, led by Chief Justice John Roberts, rushed out their ruling without waiting for him.

"It is SO unusual for the Supreme Court to issue an order this late at night and honestly incredible only Thomas and Alito noted their dissents," he wrote before adding, "Also fascinating that SCOTUS rushed out the order before Alito could finish writing his dissent. That basically never happens! Again—majority seems pissed."

Has Alito's dissent come out yet?

pat_k

(11,163 posts)
11. Necessary if we are to ever redeem the soul of the nation.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 07:31 PM
Saturday

Yes, the black robbed traitors need to be impeached. We can get there.

The first steps of redemption:

Lobby Reps, Senators, and Candidates to commit to impeaching Trump and his co-conspirator Vance.

Elect "Impeach Trump & Vance" Candidates 2026

Impeach and Remove Trump and Vance 2027.


Then, the Speaker of the House can begin the Herculean task of repairing the executive branch in accord with the body of law that represents our collective will -- and to build it back better as a more effective and efficient apparatus for carrying out our laws.

We need to be doing everything in our power to build the political will necessary to utterly reject
the unilateral, and therefore criminal dismantling of executive agencies established in accord with the laws that represent our collective will; the unilateral and therefore criminal cancellation of funds appropriated in accord with the laws that represent our collective will; the blatant violations the due process rights and human rights that our constitution grants every human within our borders; the criminally corrupt self-dealing, and the host of other violations of our core values and bedrock principles the 47 regime is committing in plain sight.

The horrors we are witnessing are an opportunity for patriots to lead us in a national reckoning of who we are as a country. If Americans don't "get" why these actions are immoral crimes that will ultimately destroy anything of value we have ever accomplished, then it's time for a national crash course in civics 101.

There can be no debate about which violations are "worse," or whether this or that person denied due process is "innocent."

Every action that undermines or destroys an executive agency's ability to implement our collective will as it has evolved in the existing body of law is an intolerable crime against us.

Every unilateral "cut" of Federal funds is an intolerable crime against us.

Every person, however heinous their crimes may be, who is denied due process is an intolerable crime against us.

Every tariff unilaterally levied under the fig leaf guise of some non-existent "emergency" is an intolerable crime against us.

In America, if we don't like a law, we lobby electeds to change it. If they won't change it, we work to elect people who will.

In America, we do NOT give our president the power to re-write our laws. In America, our president is obligated to ‘take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.’

It is simple AF.


Skittles

(163,610 posts)
13. pretty telling when even rightwing hacks on the Supreme Court are fed up
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 07:46 PM
Saturday

there just may be some hope for democracy

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