Why aren't Musk and his employees the Doge Boys under arrest right now? This was an act of espionage

[Botany]

Whistleblower claims DOGE gave Russia access to US data via Starlink

Good God in butter. America is fucked and Trump is working with Musk to burn America to
the ground. Election rigging unAmerican traitors are burning America to the ground on Putin’s
orders. Why aren’t they under arrest right now? Doge and Musk stole the passwords to the
DOE’s oversight of our nuclear weapons and sent that top secret information to Putin and his
GRU via Starlink. Within hours of getting that top secret information Russians were trying to
log into the DOE’s computers that had oversight of our nuclear materials.

This is part of the biggest criminal operation in America’s history that started with Russia installing
Trump as President in 2016.

(BTW why do I think that Musk was deep into the 2024 elections?)

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A whistleblower has alleged that DOGE systems linked to Elon Musk’s Starlink network were used by Russian IP addresses to access US government databases, raising fresh concerns over national security and infrastructure exposure.

Daniel Berulis, appearing on MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show alongside his lawyer Andrew Bakaj, claimed that DOGE systems were compromised and used by Russian actors to breach US government databases.

According to Berulis, unauthorised access was gained using recently created user credentials tied to Russian IP addresses.

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The whistleblower's claims included implications that DOGE engineers may have exposed critical infrastructure systems, including those within the US Department of Energy and agencies responsible for nuclear stockpile oversight. “It’s now open to the internet, which means foreign adversaries, like Russia, can and may have access to all of that,” Bakaj warned.

In a related claim, Bakaj said Berulis received a threatening note accompanied by a drone-captured photo of him walking his dog, raising concerns about whistleblower intimidation.


https://tribune.com.pk/story/2540291/whistleblower-claims-doge-gave-russia-access-to-us-data-via-starlink

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Meanwhile the DoJ, the State Department, and our intelligence agencies under Gabbard who is a
Russian asset have now all said they would no longer be looking @ foreign interference in America.

But really what about Hillary’s emails?


Edit thanks DUer liberali for this video

[Lonestarblue]

1. There is no one to arrest Trump and his army of lawbreakers because he has turned the DOJ into his Gestapo.

[Meadowoak]

3. Same as he did in his first term with that pig Bill Barr

[Magoo48]

28. Yup, the top tier of our two tier system is absolutely lawless.

[B.See]

37. Exactly. Musk isn't under arrest for the same reason

Trump, MTG, Alito, Thomas, Gaetz, and 147 congressional MAGA's who voted to overthrow the 2020 election aren't under arrest. For those of privilege, crime pays very well indeed.

[OldBaldy1701E]

39. Of course there is.

And, as soon as we stop being told that we can do nothing, we will.

[Bluethroughu]

2. This is a war against the Constitution and Putin's foot soldiers

in our government aka Republican party, Elon, and Donald are carrying it out.

[Irish_Dem]

4. This is why Trump had to get control of the DOJ, FBI, national security agencies.

And destroy all the checks and balances.
And all the security apparatuses.

To allow Putin to take over the country.

[Botany]

7. Yup this was in the works for a long time.

Bondi fires all FBI agents who support the rule of law and then says the DoJ will no longer
be looking into foreign influence (my guess Russian) into America’s election, government,
media, or misinformation campaigns such as the danger of a trans girl playing on her high
school softball team.

Rubio says the State Department will no longer be trying to stop foreign (Russian) operations
and closes down “The Voice of America.”

Gabbard is an outright Russian asset and is in charge of intelligence services.

Krasnov (Trump) is owned by Putin.

[Irish_Dem]

14. It happened gradually and then suddenly.

Yes we are a Russian colony now, ruled by Putin's puppets.

[MadameButterfly]

29. However, they. were not supposed to get caught

No, the administration won't take action but between the courts and journalists, the truth can come out.

What stood out for me is that the Defense Dept. doesn't use Starlink any more because they believe it funnels information to Russia. Do you. know how big that is? The whole Defense Dept. has intelligence that this has been happening and has gone against Trump/Musk on the use of Starlink? It is not a bastion of liberalness over at the DOD. But they are professionals who have spent their careers keeping our secrets from the Russians. This has got to gall them. Trump can change over the people at the top, but he can't remove all the expertise.
This is the first time I have hoped that the military will not be lockstep with Trump no matter what.

Usually despots overreach and destroy themselves. I think we may have reached that point. They are brazenly sharing our secret data with Putin. The extent of it will likely be shown to be far greater than what is now known. It could lead to the suspicious comments around the Pennsylvania election being investigated too.

If they have committed crimes enough of the RW won't tolerate, even SCOTUS can't find a way to justify, this could be the beginning of the end for Trump.

I share the OP's indignation that it hasn't happened already, but with the levers of power such as they are, bringing this about will be a high stakes game of chess.

[Irish_Dem]

32. It appears they did not care one iota if they got caught or not.

The damage was done. Russia and China have all the data and classified material they want.
And can continue to work to rig elections.

[MadameButterfly]

34. If they didn't care they wouldn't have threatened him

They don't want us to know what they have done. If the whole truth comes out they are toast.

[Irish_Dem]

38. The whistleblower is a separate issue. It is disloyalty and will not be tolerated.

Trump/Musk don't care if the public sees some of their crimes.

They do it out in the open and are not hiding it.
The DOGE hackers come in, start downloading data and an hour later,
Russian hackers have DOGE passwords and are in the US federal system.

Whistleblowers are another matter entirely.
Even though Trump commits some of his crimes in public,
he will not tolerate criticism, negative comments, etc.
He will not tolerate disloyalty.
This is classic narcissism.

[MadameButterfly]

40. This is way bigger than Trump not liking criticism

They can't let the public find out about the depth of his fealty to Putin until the dictatorship is locked down and impenetrable. Right now there are too many legitimate judges, too many active journalists and opposition news outlets, freedom of assembly has not been suppressed. The margins in Congress are too narrow and it would only take a few Republicans to defect to turn this all around.

Republicans aren't happy. They didn't mean to sign up for this level of tarriffs. They thought Trump cared about the stock market and inflation. Deportation was supposed to be for illegals and criminals, not legal immigrants and maybe whoever else you don't like. And it was supposed to return people to their countries, not torture them and permanently incarcerate on the taxpayer dime. DOGE was suppose to save us money, not cost us money, and the real numbers aren't looking good.

Republicans in Congress have toed the line, so far. They are imbeciles, after all. And scared. But ask them to rubber stamp sharing all our internal data including our nuclear secrets with Russia? Even if you could get Congress to go along with this, they'd lose the military. The Defence Dept. is not longer using Starlink because of concerns that they share data with Russia. So do you think they are going to send in the troops when Trump says so, when he wants to defy Congress and SCOTUS, impose martial law, suspend the constitution, if it means handing our nuclear secrets over to Putin?

There are still enough Reagan-loving Republicans not ready to throw in their lot with the Evil Empire. Careeer military have dedicated their lives to security against Russia. Trump can't afford for this to come out. Not yet.

[malaise]

5. Great question

Rec

[SamKnause]

6. The rule of law is dead.

Corruption won.

[Bengus81]

15. At least for now...........

[MadameButterfly]

41. The courts haven't played out.

They are frustratingly slow, but we are winning. There is even hope at this point that SCOTUS will stand up for democracy.

This matters. if in the end it comes down to what the military does, it will matter that the courts are unanimously opposed to what Trump is doing. Soldiers make an oath to the constitution, not the president. They are not supposed to follow illegal orders. Though this is difficult in practice, it helps that the courts are telling them this is all illegal.

Meanwhile, we need to show through demonstrations where the people stand. If it's Trump against the courts, the constitution, the people, and the world, the military might not be inclined to put their careers and lives on the line to interfere.

[SheltieLover]

8. Kick

[dchill]

9. Simple - they are ALL traitors.

[Joinfortmill]

10. Krasnov and his band of traitors have exposed the flaws

In our government.

[Sneederbunk]

11. Bondi is on it.

[Botany]

12. Krasnov has owned her since he bribed her 25 k in 2013 not to prosecute him for his Trump U. scam

You know the scam where he stole money from people including the spouses of dead soldiers and
in some cases taking the widow’s death benefit money to take his phony real estate classes.

Bondi we will not be looking into “foreign interference” into America and now the head of
our intelligence services is Tulsi Gabbard who is a Russian asset. How convenient.

[C_U_L8R]

13. There are no statutes of limitation

for treason or capital espionage.
Another most excellent accomplishment by the Doge dumbasses.

[Igel]

16. Facile answer: Due process.

There's a claim.

The response to any claim is immediate sentencing. Let things like finding probable cause, indictment, trial by jury and then sentencing by a judge play out ... When we get around to it.

Sound good for a liberal democracy?

Even in high-school science a big push is to move away from the "scientific method", which sounds too straitjacketed, and go to "CER": claim, evidence, response (and I like adding a second "R", rebuttal, since it's a conversation and not a claim-counterclaim-done.)

Round 2. There was an in-house investigation that turned up nothing of consequence. Yes, it was biased. But the next question has to be whether or not the whistle-blower is biased. I mean, we dissed some whistle-blowers under Biden as not worth the time to actually hear.

Esp. since a the claims are all circumstantial. "This happened ... And it must be, I think, because of...." kinds of quotes. And even without the "I think" bit it's still a claim with evidence that's alluded to but which cannot actually be produced (or, if it can be, hasn't been--assuming it still exists).

[paleotn]

20. How about there's ample evidence of multiple crimes...

but those who would investigate and bring charges are in cahoots with the potential perps. Your response is an obfuscation of the OPs point. And don't give me "well that's what they typed" bullshit. Generally speaking, those charged with espionage, who are significant flight risks, aren't granted bail. Nor should they be. So yes, in a normal world, they'd be in the pen awaiting trial. In any sane administration, we'd be well past investigate, charge and up to arrest in a situation as grave and dangerous as this. That's the point.

Since this appears to be sore point with you, my solution will really curl your hair. Once we get out of this mess, the Feds investigate just so we can figure out who to summarily execute. Put the democracy and Constitution on pause for a bit and go all Cicero on their asses as just punishment and a warning. Seriously, what's the point of the rules based system if you're the only one following the rules, and by following them to the letter, the whole goddamn system burns down around your head? Our democracy, like the Roman Republic, isn't a suicide pact. Sure, we could feel good about ourselves while slowly dying in a gulag. But to what point exactly?

OK, OK, if it makes you happy, we'll Nuremberg them like the Nazis. Then we'll hang the bastards Italian style. All of them.

[EdmondDantes_]

23. We're all for due process when it comes to the potentially undocumented immigrants

but sadly people far too often don't want due process for those they disagree with. The true test of your democratic values is do you hold those you disagree with deserving of them.

I think much of what they are doing is illegal, but I'm not willing to jail them all without some sort of fair legal process. We're literally protesting them doing that to others.

[colorado_ufo]

17. Trump has declared that we are at war with Venezuela and has used that to justify use of the Alien Enemies Act.

Treason during wartime, if I remember correctly, carries the death penalty.

[patphil]

18. It was evident early on that information was one of the driving forces behind the Musk attack on Govt. Agencies.

Information is power, and is very marketable.
When you add it all together, the information taken from all these agencies constructs a very complete picture of our government, our infrastructure, our defense, the make up of our society, and detailed personal information on every citizen.
It's value is limitless.
In the hands of hostile nations, it represents a very serious threat to the United States.
That alone is absolute proof of the malicious intent of the Trump/Musk presidency.
Essentially, they are seriously weakening our government, while empowering our enemies.
This is a recipe for disaster.
I don't know if we can survive 2 years of this, let alone 4.
What's been done so far is more than enough to convict these bastards of Sedition, Espionage, and, ultimately, Treason.

[yellow dahlia]

36. Sedition! Espionage! Triage!

Those acts and the Kleptocracy are being played out in plain sight.

[Mblaze]

19. They are not under arrest

Because we have a Republican Congress and Pam Bondi is our Attorney General.

[annielion]

21. Yes Elon and the doge hackers belong in prison

Elon and his little hackers scare me even more than Trump. I see things falling apart for Trump and the Trumpers now with people (including the SCOTUS) pushing back hard.
Elon said when "campaigning" in Pennsylvania "We should be hand-counting paper ballots.... It's just too easy to change one line in a computer program." So he did.
Stolen elections have consequences. There is lots of evidence of vote manipulation. See ElectionTruthAlliance.org

[Botany]

27. Don't forget that Krasnov said, "Musk is really good with those vote counting computers." Aka the ...

… central tabulators. And Musk told Joe Rogan that he had a special app that let him see the
voting data earlier than the close of voting.

[OneGrassRoot]

22. I assume that's rhetorical...

The whole regime is a criminal enterprise.

[Botany]

24. Trump being installed by Russia 2 times

Is part of the largest ongoing criminal enterprise in our history
And vlad is the Godfather.

[CitizenZero]

25. Outrageous

Massive computer crime and espionage. Betrayal of America on a vast scale. They should be arrested.

[Meowmee]

26. Ask R they are the ones in charge now

The gov is controlled by criminals, so it is not surprising they are still walking free as is the psycho in chief.

[liberalla]

30. This video goes with this topic... It's EXCELLENT!!!

[CitizenZero]

31. The Reason MAGA Loves Russia

The reason that MAGA loves Russia is because it is full of far right white Christian fascists and are ruled by an authoritarian dictator. MAGA are far right white Christian fascists themselves, which is why they like Russia under Putin. They love their fellow fascist racists. It is a shame that Navalny is dead. There are some decent people in Russia that want democracy and rule of law. They are suffering under the dictator Putin and now we are suffering under the dictator Trump. MAGA loves other white fascists because that is what they are.

[bluestarone]

33. The biggest question to me is Who will control who?

I believe the Supreme court has finally figured out it's them or putin. Hope they continue to upset TSF's (putins) plans

[yellow dahlia]

35. I ask the same question...almost daily. n/t