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Dennis Donovan

(30,498 posts)
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 09:53 AM Saturday

‪Mark Joseph Stern‬: SCOTUS seemed pissed at Trump

Mark Joseph Stern‬ ‪
@mjsdc.bsky.social‬
5h
Obviously, a huge victory for the migrants here and a major defeat for Trump’s lawless effort to rush out a rendition flight before the courts could act.

But also—potentially a massive signal from the Supreme Court that it is finally prepared to go toe to toe with Trump to halt AEA deportations.

‪Chris Geidner‬ ‪
@chrisgeidner.bsky.social‬
8h
BREAKING: SCOTUS orders the government not to remove anyone from the United States under Trump’s Alien Enemies Act proclamation who is a part of the potential class in the Northern District of Texas case until further order of the court.

Only Thomas and Alito note their dissent.


‪Mark Joseph Stern‬ ‪
@mjsdc.bsky.social‬
5h
I think the majority that lifted Boasberg’s restraining order truly believed Trump would heed its warning about due process and pause further AEA renditions until SCOTUS ruled on their legality.

Instead Trump tried to sneak out migrants before courts could act. And now I think SCOTUS is pissed.

Mark Joseph Stern
‪@mjsdc.bsky.social‬
It is SO unusual for the Supreme Court to issue an order this late at night and honestly incredible only Thomas and Alito noted their dissents.

Also fascinating that SCOTUS rushed out the order before Alito could finish writing his dissent. That basically never happens! Again—majority seems pissed.
April 19, 2025 at 4:15 AM


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‪Mark Joseph Stern‬: SCOTUS seemed pissed at Trump (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Saturday OP
Stop it, you grifty, frikken fascist rapist Republicon, you." - Supremos BoRaGard Saturday #1
Maybe, just maybe they're starting to get it through their thick skulls MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #2
Maybe they need to revisit that decision and reverse it? UpInArms Saturday #4
Yes they should. MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #5
They can do that? yellow dahlia Saturday #28
The six who gave him immunity are republicans. MLWR Saturday #11
They may not have believed it then, MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #13
That's exactly what I'm hoping is happening! ShazzieB Saturday #21
Maybe Roberts is finally realizing trying to get T&A Tadpole Raisin Saturday #3
This seems really heartening. Also, the implications re the SCOTUS Mike 03 Saturday #6
Why were Alito and Thomas the only dissenters? kentuck Saturday #7
Those two Just Us es were rumored to quit soon, as of last year. GreenWave Saturday #29
Well gee! It's almost as if granting immunity to a mean-spirited, Aristus Saturday #8
Who'da thunk, right? 3catwoman3 Saturday #9
Yes, we could ALL have told them that! ShazzieB Saturday #22
or kicking the can down the road to delay trials. GreenWave Saturday #30
Thomas and Alito have a vested interest in supporting the Trump government. patphil Saturday #10
Hard to believe two Supreme Court Justices would vote against Due Process. spanone Saturday #14
Yeah, it's incredible. patphil Saturday #15
Good that they remind him who the REAL boss is! bluestarone Saturday #12
They have immunity egg on their faces. hay rick Saturday #16
They're not, the Criminal Supreme Court is ready to do what he wants just need to look unbiased uponit7771 Saturday #17
Even if the majority wasn't as you said, would Trump be inclined to follow their ruling? No. paleotn Saturday #19
Yep, true ... He's a dictator at this point uponit7771 Saturday #24
So what? Not like he can't just ignore SCOTUS. paleotn Saturday #18
Raw Story: 'Basically never happens': Legal expert singles out Alito slight in overnight Trump ruling Dennis Donovan Saturday #20
Yes, it does sound like SCOTUS is pissed! ShazzieB Saturday #23
The Roberts supreme court made this mess. republianmushroom Saturday #25
SCOTUS is afraid the lawyering class may become useless and unemployed bucolic_frolic Saturday #26
So what if they are "pissed" IMO that's what Trump wants dwayneb Saturday #27

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,136 posts)
2. Maybe, just maybe they're starting to get it through their thick skulls
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:02 AM
Saturday

what a fuck up it was to give this criminal almost total immunity, maybe they're finally starting to see what a monster they have let loose on the US.

I still don't understand why they would give this criminal that ruling, if the SCOTUS rules against him, he could potentially have them removed and imprisoned because he can claim it's part of his "presidential duties".
did they think would happen by giving immunity.

UpInArms

(52,654 posts)
4. Maybe they need to revisit that decision and reverse it?
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:24 AM
Saturday

Now, that would truly be a statement from the Court.

yellow dahlia

(2,281 posts)
28. They can do that?
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 08:50 PM
Saturday

Can we start a go-fund me page to bribe them to do so? That's how it works, right?

MLWR

(289 posts)
11. The six who gave him immunity are republicans.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:27 AM
Saturday

They cannot think beyond the ends of their own respective noses and they do not believe in the "law of unintended consequences."

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,136 posts)
13. They may not have believed it then,
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:34 AM
Saturday

but I think it's finally starting to sink in to as least 4 of them, hopefully we're going to see more and more of this as Been A Dick Donald and his criminal cabal keep on violating the courts and the law.

ShazzieB

(20,360 posts)
21. That's exactly what I'm hoping is happening!
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:47 PM
Saturday

It's really rich that Alito and Thomas are still holding out. Imo, those two have really shown their true colors with their dissents to this decision. Imagine being willing to allow that criminal to go depriving people of the right of due process, which is enshrined in our constitution!

Tadpole Raisin

(1,758 posts)
3. Maybe Roberts is finally realizing trying to get T&A
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:03 AM
Saturday

for a 9-0 vote is a waste of time. I think they conditioned their last 9-0 vote on wording that gave the F a roadmap to blast through the decision.

If so maybe there is a chance if Roberts finally wakes up. I think Roberts and Barrett will side with the liberals. Forget Alito and Thomas. Now there’s just Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. As we know, only when republicans are impacted by something do they suddenly care.
I wonder what that is for those 2!

Mike 03

(18,404 posts)
6. This seems really heartening. Also, the implications re the SCOTUS
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:28 AM
Saturday

as pointed out by MJS are so intriguing.

Nevertheless, it's still incredible that Thomas and Alito cannot even get this one right.

Thanks for posting this! I had no idea this was still unfolding overnight. Nice way to start a Saturday.

kentuck

(113,555 posts)
7. Why were Alito and Thomas the only dissenters?
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:32 AM
Saturday

Does that tell us anything about the Court, if push comes to shove?

Aristus

(69,753 posts)
8. Well gee! It's almost as if granting immunity to a mean-spirited,
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:04 AM
Saturday

vindictive, incompetent man-baby was a bad idea. I’m not SCOTUS material, but I could have told them that before they did it.

3catwoman3

(26,547 posts)
9. Who'da thunk, right?
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:10 AM
Saturday

Just like some things aren't rocket science, some things don't require a law degree.

If giving into the temper tantrums of actual 2 year olds is a bad idea, giving into the temper tantrums of a biological adult is an even worse idea.

ShazzieB

(20,360 posts)
22. Yes, we could ALL have told them that!
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:50 PM
Saturday

As I said above, I think T & A are really showing their true colors in dissenting with this ruling. And those colors are very ugly ones!

patphil

(7,718 posts)
10. Thomas and Alito have a vested interest in supporting the Trump government.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:16 AM
Saturday

They've been taking bribes, in the form of lavish gifts, from people like Harlan Crow and Leonard Leo.
As long as Republicans are in power, they're safe.

bluestarone

(19,648 posts)
12. Good that they remind him who the REAL boss is!
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:33 AM
Saturday

Now we'll see if that holds!! (because i'm not 100% sure it will)

hay rick

(8,646 posts)
16. They have immunity egg on their faces.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:27 PM
Saturday

They look and smell foolish. They laid the foundation for authoritarianism and now they are trying to squirm out of it. They failed the test of character and now they are wringing their hands and looking for the dog that ate their homework.

uponit7771

(92,759 posts)
17. They're not, the Criminal Supreme Court is ready to do what he wants just need to look unbiased
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:32 PM
Saturday

paleotn

(20,295 posts)
19. Even if the majority wasn't as you said, would Trump be inclined to follow their ruling? No.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:42 PM
Saturday

As he told Gov. Mills from Maine, he feels he IS the law. And by doing so forfeits any kind of due process or humane punishment if we ever get out of this mess. His head needs to be put on a spike and displayed on the National Mall for all to see.

paleotn

(20,295 posts)
18. So what? Not like he can't just ignore SCOTUS.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 12:35 PM
Saturday

Our do you think just their robes are intimidating enough to get a Hitler imitator to follow their ruling? Kind of doubtful. After all, didn't the majority of them rule that a sitting president can do virtually anything? We'll he's doing "anything." John Roberts will shortly be doing his rendition of Dr. Frankenstein. The monster he helped create is loose!

Dennis Donovan

(30,498 posts)
20. Raw Story: 'Basically never happens': Legal expert singles out Alito slight in overnight Trump ruling
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 03:30 PM
Saturday
Raw Story - 'Basically never happens': Legal expert singles out Alito slight in overnight Trump ruling

Tom Boggioni
April 19, 2025 2:29PM ET

In a series of posts on BlueSky, Slate legal analyst Mark Joseph Stern suggested the majority of justices on the Supreme Court appear to be angry with Donald Trump's administration's attempt to swiftly deport more immigrants in Texas while there are still questions about its legality.

Noting that seven of the nine justices on the conservative-majority court stepped in to stop the Alien Enemies Act rendition flight with an order issued at 1:30 AM, Stern pointed out that Justices Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas dissented but were not given time to publish their reasoning.

As he wrote on BlueSky, "Obviously, a huge victory for the migrants here and a major defeat for Trump’s lawless effort to rush out a rendition flight before the courts could act. But also—potentially a massive signal from the Supreme Court that it is finally prepared to go toe to toe with Trump to halt AEA deportations."

Having written that, he elaborated, "I think the majority that lifted Boasberg’s restraining order truly believed Trump would heed its warning about due process and pause further AEA renditions until SCOTUS ruled on their legality. Instead Trump tried to sneak out migrants before courts could act. And now I think SCOTUS is pissed."

/snip

ShazzieB

(20,360 posts)
23. Yes, it does sound like SCOTUS is pissed!
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 04:04 PM
Saturday

It would be almost funny if the stakes weren't so high. When the 6 conservatives made that ruling to give him immunity, they literally set themselves up for something like this. I think they may actually have not realized that they were dealing with a psychopath who would take that ruling as permission to do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING HE FELT LIKE DOING. Hopefully, four of them have finally figured that out. (T & A may know it, also, but those two are never going to admit it. )

bucolic_frolic

(49,970 posts)
26. SCOTUS is afraid the lawyering class may become useless and unemployed
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 08:10 PM
Saturday

That gets their attention.

dwayneb

(983 posts)
27. So what if they are "pissed" IMO that's what Trump wants
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 08:10 PM
Saturday

Ultimately he wants to get to a situation where he can openly defy the SCOTUS and make it crystal clear that he has total immunity and the unlimited power to do whatever he wants.

If he defies them, what can the Court really do? It's been coming down to this for a long time. Our system of checks and balances only works if the Administration believes in the rule of law and behaves accordingly.

He despises our rule of law, he hates our First Amendment and he will do everything in his power over the next 3 1/2 years to destroy them.

He is crossing the Rubicon. There is no turning back until we are all under the boot.

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