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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(122,018 posts)
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 05:08 PM Saturday

Yes, RFK Jr. said autistic children will never pay taxes, hold a job, play baseball or write a poem

In April 2025, U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, said autistic children "will never pay taxes. They'll never hold a job. They'll never play baseball. They'll never write a poem. They'll never go out on a date. Many of them will never use a toilet unassisted."

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In mid-April 2025, a rumor spread online that U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said autistic children would not go on to pay taxes, hold a job, play baseball or do other everyday things.

For example, Gillian Branstetter, a communications strategist at the American Civil Liberties Union, claimed on Bluesky that Kennedy said autistic children would never pay taxes, hold down a job or contribute anything to society.

In the same post, which had amassed more than 5,900 likes as of this writing, she included a video of Talking Heads musician David Byrne — who has previously discussed recognizing in himself characteristics of autism — dancing freely on stage in an oversize suit.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/quote-rfk-jr-autistic-kids/

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Yes, RFK Jr. said autistic children will never pay taxes, hold a job, play baseball or write a poem (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Saturday OP
UGH............. Lovie777 Saturday #1
RFK is autistic? C_U_L8R Saturday #2
Post removed Post removed Saturday #11
Elon Musk? Thunderbeast Saturday #3
There's a strong whiff of ableism here neeksgeek Saturday #4
We're just illustrating how insane RFK's comments were synni Saturday #8
He still scares me nt neeksgeek Saturday #14
That is certainly true of severely autistic people. PoindexterOglethorpe Saturday #5
The criteria for autism keeps changing in DSM womanofthehills Saturday #7
What a truly miserable, psychopathic POS! Initech Saturday #6
He's right, my son never played baseball hardluck Saturday #9
Yes, but in fairness to RFK, I imagine David Byrne is a shit baseball player. Xavier Breath Saturday #10
One of my best employees is autistic jmowreader Saturday #12
Where do parents get the tax exemption? Bad Thoughts Saturday #13
That's a very narrow definition alarimer Saturday #15

Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #2)

neeksgeek

(1,230 posts)
4. There's a strong whiff of ableism here
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 05:36 PM
Saturday

I’m not autistic, but I hear an unpleasant undertone in these kinds of statements.

I was a premie and suffered a stroke before I had been in the world two weeks. My vision is not good, and I have no depth perception. I’m also bipolar. But, I’m a success story: I luckily had no cognitive impairment, and my biggest challenges have been motor reflex problems and a minor speech impediment. Not only can’t I play baseball, I have no interest in it. I’ve been lucky, my parents got me various therapies and I learned to drive, went to college, then taught college, and by any rational standard, I’m a contributing member of society. I’m atypical but I’m not defective. I’ve even written some (bad) poetry.

When I hear people like RFK Jr. speaking like this, it chills me. I worry about how far they’ll go to make everyone “normal.”

synni

(302 posts)
8. We're just illustrating how insane RFK's comments were
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:14 PM
Saturday

This isn't ableism, but a SATIRE of ableism.

And, as a disabled person myself, I support this satire 100%. Humor is one of many ways to expose evil.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(27,773 posts)
5. That is certainly true of severely autistic people.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 05:36 PM
Saturday

Most are not that severely affected.

My Son The Astronomer is on the spectrum, and while he does not write poetry, he did briefly play baseball when a little kid. He does hold a job and pay taxes. RFKjr's ignorance is appalling.

womanofthehills

(9,681 posts)
7. The criteria for autism keeps changing in DSM
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:04 PM
Saturday

Autism Diagnostic Criteria: DSM-4 vs DSM-5 Key changes.

Autism in DSM-5: The Current Diagnostic Criteria

“The release of DSM-5 brought about significant changes in the conceptualization and diagnosis of autism. The most notable change was the introduction of Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) as a single, comprehensive diagnosis, replacing the previously separate subtypes of autism.”

https://neurolaunch.com/autism-dsm-4-vs-5/

hardluck

(718 posts)
9. He's right, my son never played baseball
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:22 PM
Saturday

He was a AAA hockey goalie, graduated high school with honors, and we just did his first tax returns.

What an asshole….

jmowreader

(52,166 posts)
12. One of my best employees is autistic
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:51 PM
Saturday

Not only does he hold a job and pay taxes, every Tuesday morning we put him in a van full of newspapers and have him drive, all by himself, over 300 miles. He's always done it successfully.

Bad Thoughts

(2,642 posts)
13. Where do parents get the tax exemption?
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:54 PM
Saturday

I'm sure they want to be at least lessen the financial burden.

(Yes, I know what he says is BS.)

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
15. That's a very narrow definition
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 07:20 PM
Saturday

I'm told it's actually a spectrum.

And there are always people in every society who have different degrees of capability. People have accidents or strokes or whatever. Are they supposed to just die? Get put out on an ice floe, if you can find one?

Perhaps autism is just part of natural human variation, at every point in the spectrum.

All I know is that Kennedy sounds like a Nazi.

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