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LetMyPeopleVote

(162,038 posts)
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 06:37 PM Saturday

'Basically never happens': Legal expert singles out Alito slight in overnight Trump ruling

This made me laugh. When there is a dissent in ruling like this, the majority normally waits until the dissent is drafted and publishes the dissent with the opinion. Here the 7 justice majority did not wait for Alito's dissent. SCOTUS is tried of trump and did not wait for Alito's dissent
https://bsky.app/profile/realtuckfrumper.bsky.social/post/3ln6rhyox2j2p



https://www.rawstory.com/alito-dissent/

In a series of posts on BlueSky, Slate legal analyst Mark Joseph Stern suggested the majority of justices on the Supreme Court appear to be angry with Donald Trump's administration's attempt to swiftly deport more immigrants in Texas while there are still questions about its legality.

Noting that seven of the nine justices on the conservative-majority court stepped in to stop the Alien Enemies Act rendition flight with an order issued at 1:30 AM, Stern pointed out that Justices Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas dissented but were not given time to publish their reasoning.

As he wrote on BlueSky, "Obviously, a huge victory for the migrants here and a major defeat for Trump’s lawless effort to rush out a rendition flight before the courts could act. But also—potentially a massive signal from the Supreme Court that it is finally prepared to go toe to toe with Trump to halt AEA deportations.".....

In particular, he noted Alito would be publishing his dissent at a later time after that the rest of the court, led by Chief Justice John Roberts, rushed out their ruling without waiting for him.

"It is SO unusual for the Supreme Court to issue an order this late at night and honestly incredible only Thomas and Alito noted their dissents," he wrote before adding, "Also fascinating that SCOTUS rushed out the order before Alito could finish writing his dissent. That basically never happens! Again—majority seems pissed."

Has Alito's dissent come out yet?
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bucolic_frolic

(49,970 posts)
3. I don't put a lot of import to the late dissent.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 07:26 PM
Saturday

The majority were beating a deadline. I think more is read into the timing than is warranted.

haele

(14,141 posts)
4. Roberts is getting tired of the weight of Alito and Thomas's shite
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 07:43 PM
Saturday

They're both held up as the most corrupt, arrogant,.and petty "justices' on the Court, proving time and again that they are total asshats.

Roberts prefers genial meanness or "compassionate conservatism" to overt nasty.
He doesn't like to have his hands look dirty like they do over the Dobbs verdict.
He much prefers justifying turning his brand of White Religious Conservative meanness over to the States - "Not my fault, blame the 10th Amendment"....

liberalla

(10,438 posts)
13. I like your description of "genial meanness" for Roberts brand of political disagreement...
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 11:40 PM
Saturday

Impersonal, almost pleasant nastiness. He's still able to contain his hateful conservatism, unlike Alito and Thomas. Theirs is oozing from their pores.

Ms. Toad

(36,720 posts)
5. This is not an ordinary case.
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 08:02 PM
Saturday

Waiting for a dissent would, essentially, have been the same thing as denying the ACLU's emergency stay - Alito could just have stalled until another shipment went out. It would be sort of like granting a stay of execution at 11:59 on the day someone was to be executed - but waiting to release the opinion until the dissenting justices wrote their dissent.

So pretty much everything about it was unusual, but given all of the unusual steps to get to this point, releasing it before the dissent is the least unusual step.

Ms. Toad

(36,720 posts)
8. Yes. Last night, the most I dared hope for was that they would deal with it early this morning
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 09:02 PM
Saturday

(early meaning after people are often awake - not 1-2AM). I am surprised and glad they recognized the urgency and acted immediately.

This is three times recently they have surprised me. All three have to do with the deportation of individuals to Venezuea. The first was Roberts' rebuke after Trump called for impeachment. The second was when they essentially issued an advisory opinion that deportees under the alien enemies act had to be given notice and opportunity to challenge the assertion they were gang members. Ordinarily, they would wait until the lower court ruled on the merits. In all three instances, they seem to be driven by Trump's penchant for gamesmanship.

Figarosmom

(5,307 posts)
6. That picture shows an alito on the edge of a nervous
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 08:45 PM
Saturday

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Breakdown. I wonder if he even sleeps at night. And I wonder how many strikes of the whip he gives himself during his nightly self-flagellation.

Figarosmom

(5,307 posts)
10. Yep
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 09:09 PM
Saturday

He's not the over the top religious freak that alito is. Alito reminds me of the albino monk in Da Vinci Code.

democratsruletheday

(1,284 posts)
12. lol....of ALL the turds in the punch bowl of life he's
Sat Apr 19, 2025, 10:33 PM
Saturday

one of the biggest and his shitty colleague Thomas is right there with him

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,038 posts)
15. Alito's dissent is out
Sun Apr 20, 2025, 03:40 PM
Sunday

Basically Alito and Thomas trust trump even though there were busses loaded with detainees who were in the process of being deported



LetMyPeopleVote

(162,038 posts)
16. As legal fight raged, ICE buses filled with Venezuelans heading toward airport turned around, video shows
Sun Apr 20, 2025, 03:52 PM
Sunday

The trump DOJ was in the process of deporting a good number of detainees without giving them any real due process
https://bsky.app/profile/laurenmeidasa.bsky.social/post/3lnaoycj5o225



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/legal-fight-raged-ice-buses-filled-venezuelans-heading-airport-turned-rcna202007

Video from Friday night shows Immigration and Customs Enforcement buses full of Venezuelan migrants headed toward an airport in North Texas before abruptly turning around before the Supreme Court ruled the Trump administration must, for now, refrain from deporting Venezuelan men based in the state under the Alien Enemies Act.

At least 28 detainees — most, if not all, understood to be Venezuelan nationals — were placed on buses Friday evening at ICE’s Bluebonnet Detention Center in Anson, Texas, and then driven toward Abilene Airport about 30 miles away.

The motorcade — including at least 18 squad cars from various law enforcement agencies with flashing lights along the north Texas highways — left the ICE facility, with some men on board being told they were being deported to El Salvador and some told they were headed to Venezuela, according to the wife of one of the detainees and two lawyers representing other detainees at the facility. Prior to their departure, it was not clear what their destinations would be.

The video, obtained exclusively by NBC News, shows the ICE motorcade pass the airport’s exit and then turn around, looping back to return to the Bluebonnet detention facility.

The Trump administration is seeking to deport the men, who it says are members of the Tren de Aragua gang. It remains unclear whether the government has the authority to apply the Alien Enemies Act to gang members outside of a war situation, and whether adjudications about gang membership are accurate.

The administration has asked the Supreme Court to stop its pause on these would-be deportation flights.
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