So many "firsts" happening today. Here's another -- I actually agree with Karl Rove

[CatWoman]

Trump’s Presidency Will ‘End Badly,’ Karl Rove Warns: ‘Americans Are Already Exhausted’

In a recent op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, Karl Rove, the Republican strategist often dubbed “Bush’s Brain,” expressed concerns about the current trajectory of the Trump administration. Rove highlighted that the administration’s reliance on executive orders, rather than legislation, makes its policies vulnerable to reversal by subsequent administrations. He also noted a lack of consistent messaging and a tendency to shift focus rapidly, which he believes undermines the administration’s effectiveness.

Rove emphasized the importance of building bipartisan support and engaging in the legislative process to ensure lasting policy changes. He suggested that the administration’s approach might be causing fatigue among Americans, who are seeking stability and clear communication from their leaders.



The former Bush advisor said, “There’s way too much retribution. Most of the president’s revenge attempts will end badly for him.”

“Republicans could rue the day they set a new justification for retaliation from Democrats,” he argued.

https://www.politicalflare.com/2025/04/trumps-presidency-will-end-badly-karl-rove-warns-americans-are-already-exhausted/

[Irish_Dem]

1. Karl Rove, one of the nastiest political operatives in US history.

Thinks Trump is too nasty.

[ailsagirl]

24. That says a helluva lot!!

He's yet another crook--pretty damn nasty himself.

[msfiddlestix]

36. Right? That's the hilarious point. well, maybe not hilarious but sort of.

[Irish_Dem]

37. Yes reality has become farce. A crude, disgusting buffoonery.

[LiberalArkie]

2. Well he did create it didn't he. I think he pioneered the election fraud. Remember the look on his face when Ohio was

carried for Obama. Rove said live that that total is not correct. That he knew that Obama was going to loose Ohio.

[Clouds Passing]

6. That look was priceless!

Reading the article it looks as though he’s more concerned about how the changes are perceived than the actual changes themselves, which is frightening

[William Seger]

13. Yes, sounds like he's okay with what King Dunning-Kruger is doing, just not the way he's going about it

[FirstLight]

21. I don't expect these old white men not to turn on each other

And I'm sure Rose is just as racist as they come. Nasty man

[Inkey]

11. I was watching that night

While scanning the cable news networks
I actually saw him freaking out , going from
one faux news desk to another. It was truly
surreal to witness a meltdown live on
camera , and not being cut off.

[electric_blue68]

27. Oh, wow, I never heard that!

Well, I was down at MSNBC's Rockefeller Center's Election Watch!

[ailsagirl]

33. Damn-- I sure miss Obama

[sop]

3. Trump's presidency will end badly, Americans are already exhausted.

I hope Rove is correct. Hoping things will end badly for Trump is very exhausting.

[Skittles]

4. FUCK that piece of SHIT

he played a HUGE part in creating the mess we are in now

[UpInArms]

5. There is not one particle of rove

That I respect

ETA:

I hope he dies a slow miserable death

[Ms. Toad]

7. Interesting. I had a disturbing conversations on Thursday and last Saturdays that make me less hopeful.

It's an n=20ish, so it may mean nothing. But it might.

I am completely overwhelmed by the news - almost to the point of immobilization. I assumed any educated friends/acquaintances would be as well.

The Thursday conversation was with a former law student of mine. He had zero idea who Abrego Garcia was, or that Trump was detaining and deporting people without due process. He was at least aware enough to have some sense that this Trump presidency was different. But it shocked me that any decent thinking person could be that oblivious. (To be fair, he has a lot on his mind these days. But still . . . how do you exist without being at least peripherally aware.)

The other wasn't as shocking- but was at least mildly surprising. It also involved a former student. He's created a salon, after the model of the French Salons, for social and cultural conversations. Based on the conversation, I'd guess 80% were on the liberal side of the spectrum. But when I talked about being overwhelmed, there was an almost "What are you talking about?" kind of silence.

There is a fair amount of chatter about people not being aware unless it impacts them directly - and then only being aware of the one of many things that have a direct impact. I know that's true for what I would call low education voters - but these conversations involved partly or mostly educated people - some of whom have multiple college degrees - who seem largely oblivious to everything that is so overwhelming to me.

[DET]

12. Same Here

I live in Northern Virginia, where virtually everyone has at least one college degree, and I’m constantly amazed at how clueless people here are - unless they’re directly impacted by it, like a lot of Government workers. I just don’t get it.

[RockCreek]

29. I wonder how much of the bandwidth that once was used to read a daily newspaper

I wonder how much of the bandwidth that once was used to read a daily newspape, now goes to mindless content on social media etc.

[Ms. Toad]

30. Maybe generally,

But not the case in these two encounters. One is completely avoiding social media (related to his personal problems), and the other group is less inclined towards it than most.

[Paladin]

8. THAT'S what a fucked-up situation we're in, now.

Even Karl Rove is coming off as reasonable, by comparison. Would you ever have dreamed something like this might happen?

[Butterflylady]

10. That's what the Germans and Italians thought too.....

[msongs]

9. CNN 2012 - Obama wins Ohio and is re elected

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[Bluethroughu]

14. Karl Rove is trash.

Critical thinking people don't need a leader/Dictator to run their lives.

We will overturn this administration's illegal undemocratic inhumane policies and hold everyone accountable for attacking our Constitution...there is no pardons for treason.

[Wonder Why]

15. I'm sure there are liberals who agree with something about Rove - whether it be his opinion of

broccoli or a piece of art but as to his political opinions, he is just a piece of garbage. He may be a different piece of garbage than Krasnov but a piece of garbage nonetheless.

[struggle4progress]

16. Trump will leave in "an embarrassed, pathetic way"

Tyler Cowen, known as Silicon Valley’s favourite economist, tells Hugo Rifkind President Trump is testing the patience of the public, the courts, and Congress and won’t be able to fight his ultimate exit. The economist also criticises Trump’s tariffs, calling it “one of the worst policy decisions I’ve ever seen…a huge own goal”

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[Jilly_in_VA]

17. Okay, Ham

Now tell me something I DON'T know.

[lame54]

18. What will it look.like?

[William769]

19. Agreeing with Karl Rove is a scary thought but shit happens.

[WVGal1963]

20. Yeah, welll...

Blab, blab, blab…among the most DAMAGING voices in American History - - I have ZERO respect for him and even LESS for anything he has to say now. What a waste of time to even consider that his opinion matters.

[LiberalArkie]

28. That is it, isn't it

[flying-skeleton]

23. Somebody please call....

Somebody call Hell to see if it's frozen‼️

[struggle4progress]

25. rump is erratic and incoherent

“I think there’s real evidence that Trump’s erratic nature, his short attention span and his ability to focus on philosophy or strategy is even more apparent in his second term.”

[MadameButterfly]

26. He misses the point entirely on just about everything

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The problem with executive orders is they aren't permanent enough? Like, Rove is worried about the impact of Trump not lasting long enough, because, elections?
Too much revenge because Dems might do it back? Like, retribution is not intended to make sure Dems never have power again, and if they do Dems are going to go totalitarian on us too? Because their retribution wouldn't be in the form of something actually legal like, say, The Hague?

[Hotler]

31. Like Muammar Gaddafi badly???? nt

[Saoirse9]

32. Even a stopped watch is right twice a day

Rove started this. Now he’s complaining about it.

[czarjak]

34. After providing the blueprint?

"We get to create our own reality." W's Brain said. And Russia was listening and watching.

[mr715]

35. Take a shower.

We've already gotten in bed with the Cheneys. We smell like gunpowder and loss