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Stinky The Clown

(68,572 posts)
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 05:54 PM Monday

Question about foreign travel by US citizens

Has anyone encountered problems coming back home?

I used to travel a lot but since retiring a few years ago, I have gone once to Toronto and that's it. I need to do some personal travel to Western Europe this summer. Ids there any nuttiness getting back in?

The friends I am meeting (one each from Germany, UK, and Canada) have said they're not coming to the US.

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Question about foreign travel by US citizens (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Monday OP
Not that I heard of cally Monday #1
What was the Global Entry application/issuance process? Stinky The Clown Monday #6
You apply online leftieNanner Monday #7
Thank you! Stinky The Clown Monday #9
It's an online application with basic stuff. cally Tuesday #13
Were you able, in the end, to get it done before you traveled? Stinky The Clown Tuesday #14
Yes. But it depends where you live cally Tuesday #16
We have our choice between BWI and Dulles Stinky The Clown Tuesday #20
Check website for appointments cally Wednesday #21
We got ours two years ago MurrayDelph Tuesday #18
Anecdotal accounts, but our DFW has said he experienced no issues recently... hlthe2b Monday #2
This is largely what I had been anticipating and freaking out about before the election. msfiddlestix Tuesday #17
prepare to have your phone searched upon return lapfog_1 Monday #3
You are doing the right thing! My youngest son (28) Quakerfriend Monday #5
That sounds a bit paranoid pcdb Monday #10
No issues that i have heard from family and acquaintances who have traveled recently DetroitLegalBeagle Monday #4
I'm supposed to go to Berlin in july but I don't think I want to risk it being a black american having freely Solomon Monday #8
Probably a good idea to use a burner phone just in case Meowmee Monday #11
I'll give you an update Wednesday. Mariana Tuesday #12
Thanks! Keep me posted!! Stinky The Clown Tuesday #15
We didn't have any trouble. Mariana Wednesday #22
Went to Canada last month, no issues on return tinrobot Tuesday #19

cally

(21,744 posts)
1. Not that I heard of
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 05:58 PM
Monday

I just got Global Entry to reduce my anxiety. My in person interview took maybe 3 minutes but I am a senior white woman. I do recognize my privilege. I was very anxious heading into interview but it was simple.

leftieNanner

(15,942 posts)
7. You apply online
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:59 PM
Monday

Pay a fee. Around $100. Then you wait to be approved via email. Then you can schedule your interview. Usually at a large airport. You can also be interviewed when you return from overseas at the airport.

We are going to Europe in May. Couldn't schedule our interview before we left, so we will do it when we fly home.

I'll let you know how it goes.

cally

(21,744 posts)
13. It's an online application with basic stuff.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 02:12 PM
Tuesday

But!! You have an in person appointment which takes a while to get and may not be close to you. I know you can interview when you arrive but I wanted it done!

cally

(21,744 posts)
16. Yes. But it depends where you live
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:28 PM
Tuesday

NYC appointments available but San Francisco were months a way.

MurrayDelph

(5,536 posts)
18. We got ours two years ago
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:19 PM
Tuesday

There was a six-month wait for processing in Portland OR, but we go down to LA frequently, so I booked appointments there for when we would have been down there the following month anyway.

We've used it to drive back into the States from Canada many times, most-recently six weeks ago when we went to get Canada hats and shirts before going to Tokyo. We'll see in a week (when the cruise ship docks in Alaska) and 2.5 weeks (when we fly back from Vancouver to Portland).

hlthe2b

(109,267 posts)
2. Anecdotal accounts, but our DFW has said he experienced no issues recently...
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 06:11 PM
Monday

And, I don't know how accurate the anecdotes are beyond the well-established accounts from MSM...But, I would sure as hell do my homework including how to travel with a burner phone or scrape my phone of any traces of content that could be "gleaned" and probably travel with my contacts list in an encrypted app on a nearly blank iPad or printed out in tiny font and hidden in a shoe, carry-on luggage lining or something of that nature. Sounds really paranoid, but...

And, I would have numbers for ACLU in multiple states as well as your personal lawyer (and if they can provide, an emergency name of a well-versed immigration lawyer--even though obviously you are a citizen). In Colorado, the local ACLU has an app (probably elsewhere too) where you can be filming video that automatically downloads to a direct online website that precludes TSA or Customs/Border Control or others from deleting.

Ironically, my parents were in Iran with a western company before the Shah was deposed and as a young teen, my sister and I were warned constantly of all the things we were never to do for fear of someone overhearing us or other reprisals. That included jokes about the Shah or the country (we'd never even think about making impolite comments about the people, nor Muslims, nor anything similar, so I won't even mention that). We were told not to even write the name of the Shah or any other official on a postcard going out and certainly not to joke about drugs or anything similar. This was 1978 or so and my sister and I traveled back and forth several times--always happy to be going, but very paranoid as well. Teen children of other US workers had been detained and deported for any number of things (probably mostly drugs) but the message was sent. Neither of us relaxed until we were back in the US .

I now feel like we are living in Iran of that era. And that was before the time of cell phones and laptop computers. Yikes...

msfiddlestix

(8,043 posts)
17. This is largely what I had been anticipating and freaking out about before the election.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:17 PM
Tuesday

the crime syndicate which existed before the election even began campaigning mode was allowed to be free to hold this office despite all his crimin' back then. I

This the reality I was told I needed to accept.
How in the hell did we let this happen? I keep asking this question, but the answer was always right there. Good People Let it happen. Keeping to the rule of law they said, the wheels of justice grind slowly and blah blah blah blah.
But here we are, not so very hard to predict, and we're only 90 days in is it?
All cuz we didn't have strong leadership and citizens who could see it coming or cared enough in our camp.
I'm really glad my granddaughters have now obtained dual citizenship with Holland, which I hope will manage to stay strong against fascism and white supremacy. xfingers is all I'm able to do.

I did get my first passport recently. I have never heard of this global passport visa thing. I need to look into that.




lapfog_1

(30,820 posts)
3. prepare to have your phone searched upon return
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 06:13 PM
Monday

when I travel next I will have passport, real ID, pre clearance from TSA... and a burner phone with just enough on it to be plausible it is not a burner ( few months of personal contacts, chats, etc )

I suspect by the time I travel... they will be searching the phones of some citizens... and I might even request asylum in one of the EU countries and not return.

Quakerfriend

(5,819 posts)
5. You are doing the right thing! My youngest son (28)
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 06:31 PM
Monday

with Latin last name is traveling over seas right now-
Japan, China, Thailand & Vietnam, before returning to US in late May & I have encouraged him to get a burner phone.

A democrat with Latin name- anything could happen!

pcdb

(6 posts)
10. That sounds a bit paranoid
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:55 PM
Monday

I got back a few days ago. You wait in line for a long time to get to the immigration counter. They then take your photo which compares biometrics with your passport, then send you on to the baggage claim where you'll do more waiting. No need for a burner phone.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,348 posts)
4. No issues that i have heard from family and acquaintances who have traveled recently
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 06:28 PM
Monday

I have not yet traveled internationally this year so no personal experience. But I know a bunch who have and none have mentioned any issues. All have Global Entry though.

Solomon

(12,540 posts)
8. I'm supposed to go to Berlin in july but I don't think I want to risk it being a black american having freely
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:27 PM
Monday

spoken my mind here on DU. Don't want to be mistaked to El Salvador.

Meowmee

(8,721 posts)
11. Probably a good idea to use a burner phone just in case
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:26 PM
Monday

Many years ago my brother was harassed coming back from Germany. These people are very arrogant and have too much power in most countries. He and my mother were coming back together.

For some reason they sent my brother off to be interrogated( he and my mother were not yet US citizens then and were going through the foreign line). The man told him it was illegal for him to work in Germany! He was a post doc then and it was not illegal. Then he started asking him about his US taxes, had he paid them etc. My brother told him he had to pay taxes in Germany then not the US. The man also said that my brother's green card status was going to be in jeopardy. My brother said no it was not, he had been living in the US since he was a child etc.

Finally the jackass let him go and admitted he had done nothing wrong, I can't remember the exact words. He should have made a complaint but never did. That was over 40 years ago!

Not long after that he and my mom became US citizens. I was the first and had done it with a friend a couple of years before that.

So, although you are a citizen, I assume, I do recommend being cautious with all of the crap going on now.

Mariana

(15,505 posts)
12. I'll give you an update Wednesday.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 02:58 AM
Tuesday

My husband and I are in the UK visiting family. We’ll be flying to Boston on Wednesday. He’s a naturalized citizen with an obvious accent, so anyone who hears him speak knows he’s an immigrant. I’ll let you know how it goes at Logan.

Mariana

(15,505 posts)
22. We didn't have any trouble.
Wed Apr 23, 2025, 04:59 PM
Wednesday

I didn’t see anyone else getting hassled either. Most of the people on our flight were US citizens.

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