Opinion: A 9/11 disaster coming? Trunk is setting one up since January 20, so he can declare martial law. STOP HIM NOW.

[usonian]

I’m not one to be alarmist, but the sooner we stop this wannabe dictater, the better for everyone.

Disclaimer: “this is speculation based what’s going on now and stated goals”
The Creative Speculation forum is gone.

So, right at the top, I’m going to recommend going to the Activist Headquarters forum and finding an action there.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1011

Especially these articles about organizations already at work fighting young Shitler.

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Executive Summary:

The government’s defense and cyber-defense are highly focused on attacking immigration and DEI, firing senior and expert employees, practically begging for a crippling attack on the entire U.S. internet, water and power plants, government facilities, and high level government communications.

Military defense is similarly compromised by purges and a focus on eradicating DEI.

This astronomically increases the chance of a major disaster, which would have the consequence of a declaration of martial law, something that nobody wants. Except one.

One.

A devastating hack by likely culprits Russia, China or North Korea takes down the entire U.S. internet, water and power plants and top-level government communications. Only lower level military and state disaster personnel are operational. What about Starlink? Sloppy security means they are knocked out. Since it ousted Verizon for the White House, confusion reigns.

Key to this is the use of home phones by Hegseth and company. Home phones, despite a secure messaging app like Signal, are trivially hacked to capture the screen, cameras and microphones, making security meaningless. Apple issues frequent updates to fix "exploit du jour".

The basis of the larger hack is the fact that China infiltrated major telcos, which called for emergency actions by Joe Biden. Much of Biden’s security directives have been undone, especially by the appointment of clowns, including the recent firing of the head of NSA.

Two

A physical attack is made on the US, given it’s new clowncar security by cronies with no expertise. These may include a terrorist missile attack on the White House/Capitol/Golf Resort, Wall Street. Lax defense leadership, concerned only with DEI, makes this attack an easy one. Given the customary crowd of asslicking appointees, this wipes out …. well, use your imagination.

Defense? With all the ideologically motivated firings in defense and air traffic control, commercial planes are crashing. Consider air and other defense a sieve.

Freshly angered enemies overseas overcome their incompetence in combination with lax security, opening the door to a submarine/land or terrorist cell attack by persons off the ICE radar screen. Cuba? Sure. Submarine? No offense to the Navy and Coast Guard, their calls to Washington are ignored. After all, Trumpseth fired Coast Guard Commandant Fagan, Navy CNO Franchetti and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. CQ Brown Jr. What does that tell. you about readiness?

In the vernacular, "cruising for a bruising"

And of course, the head of DHS can't even defend against a purse-snatcher. Pitiful beyond measure.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220257271

[red dog 1]

1. K&R

[2naSalit]

2. K&R

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Nationwide martial law is a physical impossibility

Do.The.Math.

Yes, there will be plenty of evil doings and possible crackdowns, especially in blue sanctuary cities, but let’s stay grounded in the real world, shall we?

[usonian]

4. When did he ever act in accordance with reality?

He will try anything and everything until someone fucking pushes back. Tyrants love cowardice. If he's not on acid, he sure behaves like it.

That's where he needs to be stood up to and his disastrous actions reversed. Same for Vance. Just removing promotes the next in line. Slapping down actions hard and turning the congressional tide are better bets, IMO.

The bad guy or aggressor always has the first shot.

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. He could flap his arms and jump off Trump tower, but he wouldn't fly

Same thing goes for martial law.

He could declare martial law nationwide, but it would be impossible to enforce.

There simply aren’t enough troops, even if all personnel deployed overseas were returned stateside (remember, for every soldier with a gun on the front lines, there are multiple in support positions not available to engage in combat/martial law enforcement) to control 350 million people across the vast land mass of all 50 states.

Like I said, Do.The.Math.

[Diraven]

9. This assumes there would be resistance

I think almost everyone would just go along with it because it won't affect their lives much, or they'd be too scared.

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. Invoking the Insurrection Act and declaring nationwide martial law wouldn't affect everyone's lives?

Sunset curfews with violators shot on sight, door to door searches to seize private citizens’ firearms, detention without habeas corpus…but hey, Wheel of Fortune’s on, so who cares!



Like I said, nationwide martial law is a physical impossibility.

It’s not going to happen.

[usonian]

10. Of course, it's not doable, but he arguably wants to proclaim it, or the insurrection act, and then blame someone else

for the disaster he brought on, and for preventing him from "I alone can fix it" (0) because nobody else is competent enough in his eyes.

He's all about claiming the world, causing immense confusion and disruption, crises (1) and then taunting everyone to back him down, which he often does.

When he "fails", it's always someone else's fault, whom he vilifies. It's a psuedopodic ego , (2) and sociopathic behavior.

So, nothing is impossible to him. Observe his absolute disregard for the law and humanity.

In summary, it's all about being the center of crisis, always being "right" and others always preventing him from solving crises. Real or imaginary.

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(0) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Alone_Can_Fix_It

(1) If you read works by Anne Wilson Schaef, such as "The Addictive Organization" or "When Society Becomes an Addict" crisis mentality is one of the behaviors exhibited. He also fits many others. The addictive process also describes cult and mob behavior patterns.

(2) Paraphrasing Schaef, The pseudopodic ego ... absorbs and incorporates differences into itself, owns these differences, and then uses them to perpetuate (itself). In other words, his ego projects onto everyone, and sees only himself. Others are useful for a while (need I even mention wives? ) and are tossed like dingleberries when their usefulness is deemed over. Rudy?

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. We don't need psychobabble to explain or understand Trump

(As a retired therapist I know psychobabble when I see it- “pseudopodic ego”? give me a break)

If he attempts to invoke the Insurrection Act and declare nationwide martial law, I expect the markets will proceed rapidly into full blown dysentery, followed by congress passing a veto proof law that rescinds both the insurrection act and tariff authority.

Despite his egomania (oops! Psychobabble again!) I think such a scenario is highly unlikely.

[usonian]

13. I respect that. It didn't show up on search, so I credited the author (or discredited as you say)

He will try nonetheless, because he has laid the land mines.

[mwmisses4289]

15. There is ICE, who are already snatching people off the streets,

there is the national guard, the various militias who are just itching for a chance to use their questionable skills, and the various local state and local law enforcement agencies upon whom the bulk of such enforcement would fall, in addition to the regular military branches. So yes, declaring and enforcing martial law is entirely possible and doable.

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. You haven't done the math

Your post contains multiple falsehoods unsupported by any evidence whatsoever.

Just because one can imagine something happening, and type it on the internet, does not make that thing plausible, probable or possible.

In the past, when martial law has been declared the police take a back seat to the military.

For every soldier carrying a weapon and enforcing martial law, there are numerous others required to make sure they are fed, clothed, sheltered, supplied and paid, and for their weapons , vehicles and other equipment to be repaired and maintained. That dramatically reduces the actual number of soldiers available to be on the front lines/streets enforcing martial law.

Remember, a big chunk of the armed forces are in the Navy, Airforce and Coast Guard, and aren’t trained or equipped to enforce martial law.

Even if Trump withdrew every single soldier stationed overseas and redeployed them stateside, it still wouldn’t be enough to enforce martial law and control 350 million people across the vast land mass of all 50 states.

This is a matter of logistical scale, and the current evil doings against select individuals and populations do not have the resources to scale up to a nationwide level.

It’s always important to Do.The.Math.

[mwmisses4289]

18. According to this article on wikipedia,

martial law has been declared in the u.s. about 68 times since it's founding.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_in_the_United_States#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20martial,2.16%20Freedom%20Riders%20(1961)
True, they have been limited in area and scope, but it has been done.

[Fiendish Thingy]

21. Never nationwide

That was my point.

Enforcing nationwide martial law in the US is a physical impossibility.

[Aristus]

19. British General: "Do you really think your efforts will stand against the might of the British Empire?"

Ghandi: "Yes. Because, you see, 150,000 British soldiers simply cannot control 350,000,000 Indians if we refuse to cooperate. And that's what we intend to achieve: peaceful, non-violent, non-cooperation." (Smiles).

[Fiendish Thingy]

20. Indeed

And the Indian people weren’t nearly as well armed as the current American populace.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. Didn't you publish something like this yesterday?

[usonian]

7. Perhaps as a reply.

Promoting to OP.

I don't repost stuff unless I think it's important, and half of this is actionable. On purpose.

It's more crucial than election time, and Wednesdays and I used to post daily.

My time is valuable to me, so I think before posting.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. That must be what I saw. . . . .nt

[milestogo]

14. I would hate to see a major disaster happen while we have no Defense Secretary

or while we have a complete idiot in that role.

[Tickle]

16. What happened to the 4/20 for Martial law?

asking for a friend

[usonian]

22. The purpose of threats is to intimidate

To weaken resistance and get people used to compliance. That's just off the top of head.

He threatens and backs off. He's a 🐈 and uses his bluster as leverage, "on borrowed money", without having to take real action.

All his flunkies are in place ready to be fall guys for anything and everything that goes awry. Elon will take the entire blame for DOGE.

He just uses leverage to get his way, getting others to do the dirty work and take the blame.

A mafia boss. He learned from them.