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Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:26 AM Tuesday

ADL: Antisemitic Incident Data Breaks All Previous Records

Key Findings:

In 2024, antisemitic incidents in the United States rose for the fourth consecutive year, reaching 9,354 total incidents—the highest level ever recorded in the 46-year history of ADL's Audit of Antisemitic Incidents. This 5% increase from the 8,873 incidents documented in 2023 demonstrates that elevated antisemitism has become a persistent reality for American Jewish communities rather than a temporary spike in the months immediately after the Hamas-led attack on Israel on October 7, 2023. These incidents occurred across all 50 states and Washington, D.C., showing that antisemitism is not confined to a particular region but represents a national challenge.

https://www.canva.com/design/DAGkuTaGVSc/PkiA3oFgCOJaSk7v1AXKWw/view?embed

In 2024, anti-Israel animus played an unprecedented role in antisemitic incidents in the U.S. For the first time in Audit history, a majority of antisemitic incidents (58%, or 5,452 incidents) included elements related to Israel or Zionism, a trend that reflects the impact of geopolitics on domestic antisemitism. ADL does not consider criticism of Israel or general anti-Israel activism to be antisemitic and does not count such incidents in the Audit. But increasingly, extreme actors in the anti-Israel space have incorporated antisemitic rhetoric into their activism, and it has become commonplace for perpetrators across the political spectrum to voice hatred of Israel or conspiracy theories about the state in a range of antisemitic attacks. Thousands of antisemitic incidents occurred at or in the vicinity of anti-Israel rallies, many of which were organized by Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), the Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) and other anti-Israel groups. More than half of all antisemitic vandalism incidents included references to Israel or Zionism. Hundreds of incidents emerged from white supremacist groups’ anti-Israel activity, with Patriot Front racking up the most mentions.

Also in 2024, college campuses became epicenters of antisemitic activity, with an 84% increase in incidents (1,694 total), comprising nearly 1 in 5 of all reported cases nationwide. Activity at or surrounding anti-Israel protests frequently crossed the line into antisemitism through a range of concerning expressions. Protesters displayed justification or glorification of antisemitic violence, framing terror attacks against Israel and the Jewish community as justified "resistance," while others openly displayed support for U.S.-designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) by wearing Hamas headbands and waving Hezbollah and Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) flags. Protesters celebrated the anniversary of Hamas’s antisemitic October 7, 2023, terror attack on Israel and glorified the terrorist group leaders who masterminded the attack. Many protests featured rhetoric widely interpreted as a call to destroy Israel through slogans like "Death to Israel" or "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free," alongside rhetoric explicitly marginalizing Jews with a connection to Israel, such as, "We don't want no Zionists here." Classic antisemitic tropes were also often included and contained imagery referencing blood libel, conspiracy theories about "Zionist media" manipulation and equating swastikas with Stars of David — a direct attack on Jewish religious symbols.
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/audit-antisemitic-incidents-2024

Just because you are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, doesn't mean you are NOT antisemitic.
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ADL: Antisemitic Incident Data Breaks All Previous Records (Original Post) Beastly Boy Tuesday OP
It's rife in our political system ck4829 Tuesday #1
You can also be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic. Eko Tuesday #2
Also true. Beastly Boy Tuesday #3
I dont see how it shows that. Eko Tuesday #4
Surely you are jesting! Beastly Boy Tuesday #7
I think you are missing the big picture. Eko Tuesday #9
I think you are missing the point. The pellucidly obvious one. Beastly Boy Tuesday #12
Huh. Eko Tuesday #16
No, this is what you are saying about what I am saying. Beastly Boy Tuesday #19
That is not what you said at all. Eko Tuesday #21
Oh goody, tell me more about what I said! Beastly Boy Tuesday #24
I did, it was pretty easy. Eko Tuesday #26
Here, Ill make it easier. Eko Tuesday #23
I will make it even simpler. Beastly Boy Tuesday #29
It doesnt. Eko Tuesday #30
They're up because of the genocide HereForTheParty Tuesday #5
Absolutely right, they count anti-Semitic signs and chants as anti-Semitic incidents, they don't make excuses for them. tritsofme Tuesday #6
What is interesting is that poster's failure to see what they actually admitted to. Behind the Aegis Tuesday #14
Anti-semitism IS up due to the genocide (at least according to the IRHA definition used by ADL). AloeVera 18 hrs ago #59
Anti-Semitism is up to due to anti-Semites. Behind the Aegis 18 hrs ago #60
Anti-Semitism is... AloeVera 18 hrs ago #61
Anti-Semitism doesn't need to be 'splained to a Jew. Behind the Aegis 14 hrs ago #62
Only antisemitic signs and chants. Beastly Boy Tuesday #8
Exactly. The ADL report is questionable. AloeVera Yesterday #35
Not surprising that the extreme left Jewish Currents has an issue with the IHRA definition of antisemitism. Beastly Boy Yesterday #42
Probably lumping in criticism of Israel as automatically antisemitic alarimer Tuesday #10
Probably not. Beastly Boy Tuesday #13
Agree Meowmee Tuesday #11
I don't really consider the ADL to be a credible source like I used to AZProgressive Tuesday #15
They have the numbers. You have suspicions. Beastly Boy Tuesday #17
Not sure about their ablilty to see antisemitism. Eko Tuesday #18
They've been doing it for over 100 years. Beastly Boy Tuesday #20
The exact amount of time it takes to see someone do a nazi salute and read the ADL said it was a awkward gesture. Eko Tuesday #22
A couple of seconds and a tweet vs over 100 years. Beastly Boy Tuesday #25
Do you think their judgement on that was correct? Eko Tuesday #27
People change. Eko Tuesday #28
They are doing exactly that. AloeVera Yesterday #32
According to your opinionated extreme left source Beastly Boy Yesterday #53
Further... AloeVera Yesterday #34
In doing what? Accepting the most authoritative definitionof antisemitism? Beastly Boy Yesterday #55
Anti-Israeli government is NOT anti-Semitic. Just ask some Israelis who live there. Jit423 Tuesday #31
Not approving of the actions and policies SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #33
It is not, and clearly, it did not figure into ADL report in any way. Beastly Boy Yesterday #36
Having seen several interviews SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #37
Having seen the ADL report which is the subject of this thread, Beastly Boy Yesterday #38
You're free to believe SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #40
Ditto. Regardless of the conclusive statistics included in the ADL report. Beastly Boy Yesterday #41
Again SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #43
Again, my belief or yours has no bearing on the math in the ADL report. Beastly Boy Yesterday #44
Whatever you say SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #45
I say it doesn't matter what I say. Beastly Boy Yesterday #46
I'm just saying SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #47
Totally unrelated to this thread then, right? Beastly Boy Yesterday #48
You don't need anyone's SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #50
I still appreciate it, especially as it has nothing to do with this thread. Beastly Boy Yesterday #51
No need to appreciate anything SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #52
I understand this, but I can't help it. It's not every day that I am reminded, for no particular reason, Beastly Boy Yesterday #54
Good SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #56
A lot of defending antisemitism in this thread Mountainguy Yesterday #39
Disappointing but no longer surprising. DavidDvorkin Yesterday #49
Don't worry- Trump will put an end to anti-semitism Redleg 20 hrs ago #57
I worry. Beastly Boy 20 hrs ago #58

ck4829

(36,896 posts)
1. It's rife in our political system
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:35 AM
Tuesday

From "globalist" conspiracy theories centered on George Soros to the antisemitism of preferring bankruptcy and early death over incorporating Israel-like improvements to our healthcare system, there is a dangerous antisemitism steeped in our political system.

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
3. Also true.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 05:38 PM
Tuesday

What the ADL statistics show, it is increasingly not the case. Alarmingly so.

Eko

(9,098 posts)
4. I dont see how it shows that.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 05:40 PM
Tuesday

Do they show a percentage of people who are either side somewhere that I missed?

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
7. Surely you are jesting!
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 06:09 PM
Tuesday
For the first time in the history of the Audit, a majority (58%) of all incidents contained elements related to Israel or Zionism. A large portion of Israel-related antisemitic incidents occurred at or in the vicinity of anti-Israel protests. Out of over 5,000 anti-Israel rallies tracked by ADL in 2024, 2,596 involved antisemitic messaging in the form of signs, chants or speeches.


You don't see that over half of pro-Palestine/anti-Israel activities tracked by ADL included antisemitic incidents? It's right there, in writing. Backed by numers.

Or do you just not see this as being alarming?

You sure missed a lot. Most of it, I may say.

Eko

(9,098 posts)
9. I think you are missing the big picture.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 06:51 PM
Tuesday

"In 2024, ADL tabulated 9,354 antisemitic incidents across the United States." from their site.
The population of the US is 340 million. 78% of those are adults.
More than half of U.S. adults (53%) now express an unfavorable opinion of Israel, up from 42% in March 2022
78% of 340 million is 265,200,000. So, there are 265,200,000 adults in the US.
If 53% of those have an unfavorable view of Israel that would be 140,556,000
Lets just say that 1% of those 53% are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, that would be 1,405,560.
Lets say it is .5%. That would be 702,780.
What percent is 9,354 of 702,780? 1.3%.
Even if we halved it to .25% you would still be at less than 3%.
See? That is what I am talking about.
I said "You can also be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic."
You replied "What the ADL statistics show, it is increasingly not the case. Alarmingly so."
Of course I am just using numbers where my assumptions may be wrong. My assumption is that of the 53% of American adults that have an unfavorable view of Israel 1%, .5%, or even .25% of those are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel. That is why I asked if there were some numbers on it to back up your claim of "What the ADL statistics show, it is increasingly not the case. Alarmingly so." So, again, out of the people who pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel what percentage are anti-Semitic? Your claim implies that you know since it is "increasingly not the case. Alarmingly so."



Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
12. I think you are missing the point. The pellucidly obvious one.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 07:58 PM
Tuesday

ADL tracks the absolute number of antisemitic incidents in the US, not their proportion to the population of the US.

The purpose for it is to document, analyze and compare them to previous years' statistics, not the number of antisemitic incidents per capita. This is what is being counted, compared and analyzed. And guess what: analysis show that over half of antisemitic incidents are associated with anti-Israel activities. Not anti-Israel opinions or sentiments, which remain unaddressed and irrelevant to the aforementioned findings. Not antisemitic incidents in proportion to those sentiments, but the total number of antisemitic incidents which occurred in the course of anti-Israel activities.

You, on the other hand, are trying to belittle these numbers by comparing apples to pork bellies. But however hard you try, over half of antisemitic incidents last year will remain directly tied to anti-Israel activities. Your daring forays into nonsensical math calistenics cannot change this.

Sorry you wasted so much time to come up with such a useless argument, but I can't say I am surprised.

Eko

(9,098 posts)
16. Huh.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:54 PM
Tuesday

I said "You can also be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic."
You replied "What the ADL statistics show, it is increasingly not the case. Alarmingly so."
So you are saying a rise of 481 incidents from 2023 to 2024 is an alarming rise in the number of people of the US who used to be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not antisemitic and are now pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and antisemitic? Exactly how many people do you think in the US are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not antisemitic?

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
19. No, this is what you are saying about what I am saying.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:18 PM
Tuesday

Why does this sound so familiar?

What I am saying is exactly what I did say and you seem to confirm. In response to your statement, This is a ridiculous beating of s dead horse, but my response is directly related to your post. "It is increasingly not the case" is the response to "You can also be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic." The latter is increasingly not the case. And you had calculated this increase: exactly 481 incidents.

The rest is you saying stuff, not me.

You don't find an additional 481 antisemitic incidents from the previous all-time high alarming? That's something that you will have to reconcile with yourself. Don't get me involved.

Eko

(9,098 posts)
21. That is not what you said at all.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:32 PM
Tuesday

You may say that you meant differently but your words mean something else.
It is increasingly not the case
Not means you are saying what I am saying in not right.
I said You can also be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic.
And you said that is increasingly not the case. Those extra 481 incidents could just be people who are already antisemitic protesting multiple times with the same antisemitic poster. But you wanted to make sure to attack the people who are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not antisemitic. You did it in your main post "Just because you are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, doesn't mean you are NOT antisemitic."
And when I posted that you can be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not antisemitic you said that is it is increasingly not the case, alarmingly so, with no evidence to back that up other than there were more antisemitic acts from 2023-2024. As I stated earlier it could have just been the same people doing multiple protests with the same sign. But no, you seem to want to make people who are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel into antisemites.

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
24. Oh goody, tell me more about what I said!
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:49 PM
Tuesday

Because I can't read what I said myself. Because It's not there in black and white, and you know better.

Eko

(9,098 posts)
26. I did, it was pretty easy.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:54 PM
Tuesday

I think you can be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic.
you say that is increasingly not the case, alarmingly.
If put them together then we have
it is increasingly not the case, alarmingly, that you can be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic.
or
You can be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic but that is increasingly not the case, alarmingly.




Eko

(9,098 posts)
23. Here, Ill make it easier.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:48 PM
Tuesday

If crime is on the rise is it because of
A. Criminals are doing more crime
B. Non-criminals are doing more crime
C. More people who think crime is wrong are doing more crime.

If there are more reported incidences of antisemitism is it because of
A. Anti-Semitic people are protesting more.
B. More people are becoming Anti-Semitic
C. People who are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not antisemitic are becoming more antisemitic?

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
29. I will make it even simpler.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:57 PM
Tuesday

If there is an increase in antisemitic incident,

A. How does any "because" change it?

Eko

(9,098 posts)
30. It doesnt.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 10:07 PM
Tuesday

It increased.
I never said anything saying it did or didnt.

Eko (9,095 posts)
2. You can also be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic.
Reply to Beastly Boy (Original post)
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 04:36 PM

Beastly Boy (11,993 posts)
3. Also true.
Reply to Eko (Reply #2)
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 05:38 PM

What the ADL statistics show, it is increasingly not the case. Alarmingly so.

If you werent saying that it is increasingly not the case. Alarmingly so. in regards to me saying this You can also be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic. Then what was Also true and increasingly not the case and alarmingly so? Did you respond to the wrong post and if so why haven't you said so?
I never said that the incidents were not happening or that the number was wrong or that they weren't going up. All I said was you can be pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and not be antisemitic. You're reply was Also true, increasingly not the case. Alarmingly so. Its painfully clear what you meant and what you tried to do in your main post and your reply to me.

HereForTheParty

(848 posts)
5. They're up because of the genocide
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 05:56 PM
Tuesday

They count things like signs and chants as antisemitic incidents.

tritsofme

(19,106 posts)
6. Absolutely right, they count anti-Semitic signs and chants as anti-Semitic incidents, they don't make excuses for them.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 06:03 PM
Tuesday

Behind the Aegis

(55,285 posts)
14. What is interesting is that poster's failure to see what they actually admitted to.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:23 PM
Tuesday

Anti-Semitism is up because anti-Semites blame, any and all Jews, for Israel's actions, real or imagined.

AloeVera

(2,532 posts)
59. Anti-semitism IS up due to the genocide (at least according to the IRHA definition used by ADL).
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:08 PM
18 hrs ago

And saying that does not "admit" to anti-semitism. That accusation was uncalled for and does not stand up to scrutiny.

It is up because:

1) even legitimate and well-earned criticism and outcry over Israel's inhumane actions are defined as "anti-semitic". Speaking up for Palestinian rights and equality is often considered anti-semitic. With the Gaza "war" there is plenty new to criticize, and plenty more injustices against Palestinians - so plenty more false accusations of "anti-semitism".

2) Real anti-semitism from the intolerant far-right has been given more fuel by Israel's actions. And this is possible because Jewish identity itself has been conflated with Israel. An inevitable outcome of the creation of an ethno-religious state. The Nick Fuentes of the world are having a field day. This is another unintended but dangerous consequence of such conflation.

The IHRA definition is both dangerous for Jews and unfair and harmful to Palestinian rights. It is being used as we speak to hunt down student leaders and protesters, crack down on freedom of speech (but only for Palestinians) and stifle academic and public discourse when that is urgently needed to arrive at some modicum of a fair outcome for Palestinians. If you care at all about their rights, that is. If someone does not, then they will buy into the IRHA definition for its use in suppressing political speech and silencing Palestinian voices and their points of view.

Behind the Aegis

(55,285 posts)
60. Anti-Semitism is up to due to anti-Semites.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:32 PM
18 hrs ago

Anti-Semitism is up due to people declaring Jews the enemy.

Anti-Semitism is up due to those who ignore it.

Anti-Semitism is up to those who make excuses for it.

Anti-Semitism is up due to bigots.

Anti-Semitism is up because it is the way the world reacts to anything Israel does, real or imagined.

Anti-Semitism is up to due to anti-Semites, not Jews, their actions, reactions, or "The Jew", Israel.

AloeVera

(2,532 posts)
61. Anti-Semitism is...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:57 PM
18 hrs ago

Both artificially inflated by a defective definition that is racist towards Palestinians and denies their rights AND jacked up on steroids by the far-right bigots who point to Israel's inhumane actions to bolster their scapegoating and stereotypes.

And the real scourge of anti-semitism should never EVER be used to deprive another people of their human rights or rights to self-determination or used as a shield for the anti-Palestinian racism that excuses or tolerates the barbaric inhumanity against them.

Behind the Aegis

(55,285 posts)
62. Anti-Semitism doesn't need to be 'splained to a Jew.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:21 AM
14 hrs ago

It is increased by Jew-hating bigots who will use any excuse to attack Jews, including, but not limited to, the actions of a foreign nation, real or imagined.

Anti-Semitism should never be defended or excused, but alas, it is the world in which we Jews live.

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
8. Only antisemitic signs and chants.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 06:13 PM
Tuesday
...framing terror attacks against Israel and the Jewish community as justified "resistance," while others openly displayed support for U.S.-designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) by wearing Hamas headbands and waving Hezbollah and Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) flags. Protesters celebrated the anniversary of Hamas’s antisemitic October 7, 2023, terror attack on Israel and glorified the terrorist group leaders who masterminded the attack. Many protests featured rhetoric widely interpreted as a call to destroy Israel through slogans like "Death to Israel" or "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free," alongside rhetoric explicitly marginalizing Jews with a connection to Israel, such as, "We don't want no Zionists here." Classic antisemitic tropes were also often included and contained imagery referencing blood libel, conspiracy theories about "Zionist media" manipulation and equating swastikas with Stars of David — a direct attack on Jewish religious symbols.


Like these. They didn't count all the others:

AloeVera

(2,532 posts)
35. Exactly. The ADL report is questionable.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:55 AM
Yesterday

"From the River to the Sea..." is considered to be anti-semitic. See post #32.

Here is an analysis that throws the ADL Audit into doubt. Turns out only 56% of cases were truly anti-semitic - of criticism of Israel, faulty methodology among other things are removed.

Though the report doesn't highlight it and uses language that obfuscates it and im fact misleads - the ADL uses the "new" IHRA definition of anti-semitism.

In the audit, the ADL claims that it is “careful not to conflate general criticism of Israel or anti-Israel activism with antisemitism” but specifies that its “approach to Israel-related expressions comports with the IHRA [International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance] definition of antisemitism.” But it is precisely this definition that critics argue conflates legitimate criticisms of Israel or Zionism with antisemitism. To assess each entry and determine whether to classify it as an antisemitic incident, we instead used the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism (JDA) definition, a tool developed by scholars to identify antisemitism while avoiding erroneous conflations of anti-Zionism with antisemitism.


https://jewishcurrents.org/examining-the-adls-antisemitism-audit

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
42. Not surprising that the extreme left Jewish Currents has an issue with the IHRA definition of antisemitism.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:35 PM
Yesterday

But like it or not, this definition is widely accepted around the globe. The prejudicious opinion of your source does not create any obligation on anyone's part to change the definition of antisemitism. It stands, and so does the ADL methodology that adheres to this definition.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
10. Probably lumping in criticism of Israel as automatically antisemitic
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 06:53 PM
Tuesday

I don't trust this "study" at all.

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
13. Probably not.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:18 PM
Tuesday

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Actually, definitely not.

As per the cited excerpt:

ADL does not consider criticism of Israel or general anti-Israel activism to be antisemitic and does not count such incidents in the Audit.


Certainly, ADL's findings are completely unaffected by anyone's trust.

AZProgressive

(29,484 posts)
15. I don't really consider the ADL to be a credible source like I used to
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 08:28 PM
Tuesday

If they're going with pro-Palestinian or anti-Israel as an example I can see the numbers being inflated but I think the vast majority of people attending protests like that just don't want to see a genocide or an ethnic cleansing happen to an ethnic minority.

Also there are a lot of people that are Islamophobic that back Israel because of what they are doing to a Muslim population.

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
20. They've been doing it for over 100 years.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:21 PM
Tuesday

How long does it usually take you to be sure?

Eko

(9,098 posts)
22. The exact amount of time it takes to see someone do a nazi salute and read the ADL said it was a awkward gesture.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:34 PM
Tuesday

Couple of seconds to be a bit more precise.

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
25. A couple of seconds and a tweet vs over 100 years.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 09:52 PM
Tuesday

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Pardon me for not trusting your judgement.

I can find two tweets that will take you a couple of seconds to read that the Earth is flat. Feeling like changing your mind?

AloeVera

(2,532 posts)
32. They are doing exactly that.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:23 AM
Yesterday

You are correct.

In all previous years, the ADL did not include pro-Palestine protests in its audits, but the group says in the audit that it has employed “new methodology” since October 7th that identifies language that expresses “opposition to Zionism” or is “perceived as supporting terrorism or attacks on Jews, Israelis or Zionists” as antisemitism. If signs or slogans using such language appear at a rally, the ADL includes the rally in its audit.


https://jewishcurrents.org/examining-the-adls-antisemitism-audit



Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
53. According to your opinionated extreme left source
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:47 PM
Yesterday

which appears to have an issue with the IHRA definition of antisemitism.

Outside of their rather insignificant space, this definition of antisemitism is widely accepted. The prejudicious opinion of your source does not create any obligation on anyone's part to change the definition of antisemitism. It stands, and so does the ADL report.

AloeVera

(2,532 posts)
34. Further...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:35 AM
Yesterday
In doing so, it inflates both the total number of antisemitic incidents and the share of them attributed to the Palestine movement. Our reappraisal using the JDA found that 1,472 such incidents—about 17% of the total incidents tracked—did not appear antisemitic.



Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
55. In doing what? Accepting the most authoritative definitionof antisemitism?
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 02:02 PM
Yesterday

The one that was officially adopted by 46 countries and 104 human and civil rights organizations?

Ok, I will make note of it.

Jit423

(1,241 posts)
31. Anti-Israeli government is NOT anti-Semitic. Just ask some Israelis who live there.
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 10:59 PM
Tuesday

A reminder that we here in America are not being told or shown ALL that is going on there.

SocialDemocrat61

(4,261 posts)
33. Not approving of the actions and policies
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:33 AM
Yesterday

of the Benjamin Netanyahu government, which is extremely right wing, is not anti-semitic.

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
38. Having seen the ADL report which is the subject of this thread,
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

I am 100% confident of that, irrespective of what you have seen of Greenblatt's interviews.

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
46. I say it doesn't matter what I say.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 12:58 PM
Yesterday

Why do you keep making the AD report contingent on what I say?

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
54. I understand this, but I can't help it. It's not every day that I am reminded, for no particular reason,
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 01:51 PM
Yesterday

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of my freedom to believe anything I want.

Redleg

(6,465 posts)
57. Don't worry- Trump will put an end to anti-semitism
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 05:59 PM
20 hrs ago

I don't doubt that anti-Semitic shit is on the increase. I am always cautious to not assume that it represents a long-lasting and stable change in aggregate social perceptions about Jewish people rather than a transitory sentiment based on recent events.

I am concerned that protests in favor of the people of Gaza or of Palestinians in general have been characterized as anti-Semitic on their face. I don't know about ADL's methodology and how the separate the wheat from the chaff.

I do recall how the right-wingers characterized BLM protests as violent due to the actions of a few dickheads at the protest. I think the same goes for protests regarding the situation in Gaza and Israel- there are bigoted assholes who get attention by saying hateful shit.

Beastly Boy

(12,044 posts)
58. I worry.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:26 PM
20 hrs ago

I worry that two thousand years of unabated antisemitism does not bode well for the notion of transitory sentiment based on recent events. I am reluctant to stake my well-being on that.

I am more concerned about the pro-Palestine/anti Israel protests which contained antisemitic incidents than those that did not. Actually, I am rather neutral on the latter, in the same way as the ADL report in question is. It exempted the dickhead-free protests from being counted as antisemitic. I am also concerned because I am not aware of a single protest in which the aforementioned dickheads were called out on their hatred by the other protesters.

What ADL did was count a few antisemitic dickheads being antisemitic in each protest as a single antisemitic incident, and leave the dickhead-free protests out of their count.

The methodology is all there, spelled out in the report.

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