Do you ever wonder, with Trump

[Dan]

How is this going to end? Less than 100 days into his second term - what a mess. How is this going to end for us?

Name any organization in the nation and what he is and has done, our personal relations, family, religion, you name it - how is this going to end?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. Sadly it depends on the economy.

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MAGA is incapable of assembling a governing majority with only its adherents. It depends on the additional votes of peolple who would put their neighbors on cattle cars for cheap gas and eggs.

[Dan]

3. So, you're suggesting that if egg prices don't fall

Then we might end up “cooking” our neighbors? Or rather not cremating our neighbors, somewhere in between Camps and Concentration camps.

Hopefully we won’t get to that point, but to your point - where is the soft landing for the nation and what does it look like?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. America has a strong small l small d liberal democratic tradition.

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We're taught in school pluralism, the rule of law, majority rule/minority rights are positive goods. Some people ignored their learning and couldn't care less as long as their material needs are met.

[yardwork]

28. This crisis has ripped off some masks.

I can't listen to Fox News for five minutes without feeling traumatized. The racism and meanness is repellant.

Yet hundreds of millions of Americans are glued to it and equally repulsive outlets, eagerly drinking the poison and letting themselves get worked up.

Why? One reason is the pervasive racism in this country. That's the hook that pulls in consumers of right-wing garbage. Their anger and resentments were always right below the surface. Now they have permission to indulge it.

It's quite possible that this is unsalvageable. We may lose the country and hope to rebuild better one day.

[Hugin]

14. The chances of a soft landing expired on Nov fifth.

Doing things the hard way was chosen for us by an alarmingly small minority who still don’t get it.

[Dan]

15. Rather sad you think that.

I guess I was hoping that somewhere there's a path that's good for all of us.

[Fichefinder]

4. In Fire.....

[Journeyman]

5. I was going to say "badly," but your prediction Fichefinder is probably closer to the horror we face . . .

[Bluethroughu]

6. Well, today a neighbor from down the street I never spoke with, just waved to,

Stopped in front of my house and yelled out, sorry about election...I voted for Harris too.

Maybe we come together, and get what 89% of people want healthcare for all, education free, and living wages with a robust social security. We can have this when the rich and corporations are forced to pay their fair share.

[Dan]

7. Another shining light of hope.

[Bluethroughu]

10. That's what I thought.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

8. I am recommending the book

"The Fourth Turning Is Here" by Neil Howe. I believe it pretty much outlines what is going to be happening over the next few years.

The truly scary thing is that this fourth turning may not turn out well, unlike every other such turning going back some 500 years.

[Dan]

13. Have to remember this.

[BadgerKid]

22. Googling turned up Strauss-Howe generational theory

According to the theory, historical events are associated with recurring generational personas (archetypes). Each generational persona unleashes a new era (called a turning) lasting around 21 years, in which a new social, political, and economic climate (mood) exists. They are part of a larger cyclical "saeculum" (a long human life, which usually spans around 85 years, although some saecula have lasted longer). The theory states that a crisis recurs in American history after every saeculum, which is followed by a recovery (high). During this recovery, institutions and communitarian values are strong. Ultimately, succeeding generational archetypes attack and weaken institutions in the name of autonomy and individualism, which eventually creates a tumultuous political environment that ripens conditions for another crisis.[citation needed]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory

[Blue Owl]

11. I hope it ends badly for Dump.... Very, very badly.....

[Dan]

12. I think everyone on DU are in agreement with you.

[ellise]

16. Yes..I wonder ??

How we have gone so long without anyone truly questioning Trump’s mental state. The man is unstable in so many areas..that will probably only be acknowledged when it is too late…or he is dead.

[Dan]

17. What do you mean by " too late.".

[CountMyVote4Reality]

18. For this to be over, there have to be trials, like Nuremberg.

It’s not just Trump. We’re dealing with fascists.

Trump USA is a pariah. We have to regain the trust and respect of the world.

[rampartd]

26. trump can weasel out of a fair trial.

this one requires guillotines.

these are not only fascists, but self appointed ruling class parasites.

[0rganism]

19. In fire

[Bernardo de La Paz]

20. He is in a headlong rush. He may be thinking he might not survive 4 years. . . . nt

[DET]

21. If We're Lucky...

An overwhelming amount of evidence comes to light that Trump stole the 2024 election and has been groomed by Putin for decades to destroy our country for his personal benefit. Sadly unlikely, although true. It will probably all come out in time.

Alternatively, the American oligarchs get fed up (‘we voted for lower taxes, not this insanity’) and twist the arms of the suck ups on Capitol Hill to take action to get rid of TSF (metaphorically). Since the Republican Senators and Congresspeople seem to have no moral core, they are in the unenviable position of having to decide who is most likely to destroy them and their family - TSF or their constituents.

Ultimately, it may be up to the American people to decide that they’ve had enough and to take action to end the tyranny and the looming destruction of our country. I’m not sure what this would entail, but I expect that it would involve violence on both sides. Frankly, I’m amazed that TSF’s approval ratings remain relatively high, despite the total chaos that he has caused and the impending cuts to the social services that his base depends on.

Personally, I’m convinced that American democracy will prevail in the end. But the leaders of the Republican coup may not be held fully accountable and the cleanup will not be pretty.

[Dan]

24. Your thoughts are interesting....

[ecstatic]

23. I really hate to sound negative so early in the morning

But just think about what he dismantled last time and the millions of deaths that resulted. Covid comes to mind. He was never fully blamed like he should have been. He gutted programs and response teams that could have stopped covid from unleashing into a global pandemic.

Now multiply all of that times 1,000. He is gutting so many things, which means millions upon millions of people around the world are going to die. The carnage will begin to manifest within the next 2 years or maybe even a lot sooner. I can only hope that he and his supporters will feel the brunt of it but sadly all of us will be affected.

[Dan]

25. I agree with you

I read somewhere a couple of days ago, that literally millions are starving due to his actions this time.

[yardwork]

27. I'm noticing a ramp up of interpersonal divides this week.

Tempers are getting shorter.

The economy is tanking, prices are rising, and even wealthy people are feeling frustrated and angry as things they counted on are getting messed up. I belong to a FB group of collectors of items that are often imported from other countries. They're getting mad about higher prices and new fees from carriers. Tariffs haven't even taken effect yet and prices are rising.

Those of us who despise Trump feel more angry than ever. People who voted for him are starting to feel a strain, I think. They struggle to defend him. Here on DU there are a few people who hoped some of Trump's appointees might do good things. They're not. They are evil incompetent morons.

I'm seeing a level of tension that is new.

The country is headed toward a crisis.

[Dan]

30. Interesting antidotal information.

People are slowly starting to appreciate what is happening via the prices, so there is a direct cause and effect via the Tariffs.

Domestic politics showing the strains - people protesting, and International relations damaged due to our stable genius.

Where and when does it end and how does it end, reasonable people might ask.

[lark]

29. Everyone should be extremely concerned about our loss of democracy under tsf.

I hate it but can't see a good end to this. SCOTUS will not save us because it is part and parcel of the destruction that is being wrought, same with the military. I'm so glad to see people finally going to the streets, but this would have to increase x100 for it to make a mark. Normal folks would have to wake up, turn off Faux Snooze and face reality.

Something major, like Social Security checks not being sent is the only thing that might wake up the stupid R's and ignorant I's to the danger they are personally facing and force a change. Of course that would be disastsrous, so my first sentence is still in play

[Dan]

31. I read somewhere I think yesterday

That dear leader is considering sending troops to another location in the Middle East, definitely in harms way. Someone mentioned that he has 60 days where he has the freedom to practice war before Congress has to either authorize it or bring them home. With this spineless Congress I am reasonable sure that they will acquiesce to whatever Donald wants, but unfortunately dear leader never has a plan.

Someone once said, domestic politics will get you unelected, but foreign politics will get you killed.

Satire aside, Generation Z may get to experience false masculinity.