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Chaos Is About to Take Its Toll
April 24, 2025 at 7:35 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 36 Comments
https://politicalwire.com/2025/04/24/chaos-is-about-to-take-its-toll/
Paul Krugman: It has been amazing to watch the stock market gyrating in response to things that arent even policy changes theyre hints and rumors of policy changes. Todays Washington Post has an article with the headline White House eases tone on tariffs on China but wont be cutting them soon. OK, how much does the change in tone tell you about what will actually happen?
Why, then, did stocks rise on this non-news? Id say that the market is like someone caught in an abusive relationship still in denial, seizing on every hint of decency as evidence that their partner is really changing their ways.
Apparently investors and the news media still havent learned that you cant read supposed insider reports on administration thinking the way you could in a normal administration as indications of where the policy process is headed. There is no policy process. Trump will zigzag based on who talked to him last.

dalton99a
(88,263 posts)bucolic_frolic
(49,937 posts)Take opportunities if you see them. When they show you a few % or a two day or two week move, take it. Rinse and repeat.
markie
(23,314 posts)yes, it is an abusive relationship... not knowing when the next harsh word or beating will come... I used to shelter abused women in my home and I am all too familiar with the relationships... women would sometimes go back though.... until the kids started getting hurt....????
Johnny2X2X
(22,773 posts)Trump is so fickle that he changes positions with the wind.
The economy cannot take this type of leaderless chaos. A recession has already been caused no matter what happens going forward.
Martin Eden
(14,172 posts)Let's remember three things about The Felon:
He's a megalomaniacal malignant narcissist.
He's a grifter.
He's a Russian asset, if not agent.
All three, but especially the last two, help to explain his tariff vacillations.
Lonestarblue
(12,558 posts)As are those in Trumps inner circle who know when he is changing the rules.
Martin Eden
(14,172 posts)And to Mike Johnson, demanding impeachment.
And to Santa Clause, because I'm more likely to get what I want from him.
dickthegrouch
(3,986 posts)(My parents)
That Mr Claus is rather conservative and prone to giving poor spellers (particularly of his name) coal.
Therefore I doubt you are more likely to get what you want from him.
Martin Eden
(14,172 posts)I had him confused with the Sanity Clause, which should be a requirement for high office.
MadScout
(9 posts)Despite the pause on tariffs I still was charged 32% on my latest inventory order.
When I question DHL about it, they gave me 3 different answers. I heard it was 32%, 25% and 10%
Meaning they have no clue.
What it meant for me was an extra $2,000 in supply cost.
MLAA
(19,138 posts)Damn, Im so sorry to hear you had such a huge impact. How much of that increase do you think you can recoup without losing sales?
modrepub
(3,822 posts)If the media abandon talking to Washington talking heads and Stock Market gurus and actually talked with people like you who are trying to deal with this directly. Some hard data on whats actually happening on the ground is more useful than covering a feckless, fickle orange clown.
IronLionZion
(48,557 posts)the inconsistency is screwing up a lot of business planning causing some to hold back until it settles down
Raftergirl
(1,668 posts)Amaryllis
(10,275 posts)live love laugh
(15,198 posts)LudwigPastorius
(12,261 posts)It's more likely that Trump will zigzag based on whether he told Donny Jr. to buy or sell the previous day.
Once Trump figured out that he can make the market jump like a frog connected to a car battery with just a tweet, he's not going to pass up the opportunity to make bank off of it.
soldierant
(8,406 posts)Particularly now, when he's seeing polls and his appeoval ratingdrop like a slasher's victim. There is evidence that in fact he has zigzagged based on the last person he has talked to. Not every time, but enough to get noticed.
pbmus
(12,475 posts)
erronis
(19,167 posts)Paul Krugman should know that the media is complicit (and probably profiting) from the flatulence emanating from this white house. If the media didn't pass the stink on to the populace then the pump-and-dump scheme wouldn't work.
mdbl
(6,275 posts)Problem is it's turned into a big casino of greed with very little foundation in finance. Someone has to lose for someone to win.
pansypoo53219
(22,124 posts)no. i never watched it cause i read SPY + i can't stand the short fingered vulgarian.
Blue Owl
(55,969 posts)