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Jit423

(1,237 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:13 AM Yesterday

Did we not prohibit Ukraine from bombing inside Russia? Is it time to allow Ukraine to take the gloves off?

Russia is just too comfortable killing Ukrainians and lying about peace negotiations. Maybe a little more pain inside Russia would change things. Putin will not go nuke. He can't afford it and he would end up fighting the entire world except for the US.

The west is just as complicit in what is going on in Ukraine as it is with what is going on in Gaza.

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Did we not prohibit Ukraine from bombing inside Russia? Is it time to allow Ukraine to take the gloves off? (Original Post) Jit423 Yesterday OP
I think that idea died a quiet death. Unlike too many. Emrys Yesterday #1
We tied Ukraine's hand behind their backs and they fought hard for our support.. Deuxcents Yesterday #2
I think about all the U.S. can say is in regards to the weapons that the U.S. provides. Ukraine now builds a lot of its LiberalArkie Yesterday #3
Turnip backed out of the US end of the deal, Ukraine is free to back out of their end. eppur_se_muova Yesterday #4

Emrys

(8,592 posts)
1. I think that idea died a quiet death. Unlike too many.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:27 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:21 AM - Edit history (1)

When it did apply, it only covered the use of certain US-supplied weapons anyway. Ukraine has developed its own longer-range armaments (it already had some at the time of the earlier strictures, though not as stealthy or devastating as those supplied later), which seem to be doing a handy job. It's not clear yet what took out the Grau arms depot near Moscow and its 200,000 tons or so of armaments the other day, but it may have been a Ukrainian strike.

During Russia's attacks on Ukrainian civilian populations last night, this is a snapshot of the Ukrainian airborne response:



The more pressing need at the moment is more, and more effective, air defences to protect civilians and civilian infrastructure, and so far Trump's sneered at the idea of selling Ukraine any Patriots.

Deuxcents

(21,884 posts)
2. We tied Ukraine's hand behind their backs and they fought hard for our support..
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:36 AM
Yesterday

Now, after4 years, they’re using their power the best they can. They could have wiped Putin’s army, his mercenaries, North Koreans n Chinese fighters out a long time ago if they had the weapons they needed and asked for. Putin doesn’t respect boundaries so Ukraine should do what it needs to do 🇺🇦

LiberalArkie

(17,994 posts)
3. I think about all the U.S. can say is in regards to the weapons that the U.S. provides. Ukraine now builds a lot of its
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:41 AM
Yesterday

own stuff and gets weapons and systems from other countries that the U.S. demands have no say so over. Now..

eppur_se_muova

(38,929 posts)
4. Turnip backed out of the US end of the deal, Ukraine is free to back out of their end.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:58 AM
Yesterday

Remember, Turnip has a lifelong record of broken contracts and refusals to pay bills for work already done.

USA Today found 4095 lawsuits involving Turnip, and they haven't finished searching.

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