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LetMyPeopleVote

(161,973 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:18 PM 19 hrs ago

David Hogg is being paid a six figure salary by his PAC and may be using DNC emails to raise money for this PAC

Hogg's pac raised $11.9 million and $10.7 million went to operating expenses including his salary










I got another email from David Hogg’s PAC (Leaders We Deserve). Decided to see what’s up. IDK, looks like homeboy is making a nice six figure salary:

Raised $11.9m
Spent $10.9m
Salaries: $608k (w 2/founders)
Consultants: $3m
Donations to House Candidates: $12.6k


Since Hogg's election to the DNC, I have been getting a good number of emails from Hogg and his pac. I am not the only one


I had never received any emails from Hogg prior to his election to the DNC.
It is wrong for Hogg to use the DNC contact list to raise money to pay his salary and to challenge democratic incumbent candidates
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David Hogg is being paid a six figure salary by his PAC and may be using DNC emails to raise money for this PAC (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 19 hrs ago OP
he said he was gonna spend $20 mil but do not recall him providing the source of the money nt msongs 19 hrs ago #1
I believe the source is his pac Leaders We Deserve Meowmee 13 hrs ago #38
Keep your eyes on the prize........... Lovie777 19 hrs ago #2
So what! Do you think he's the only one? Sewa 19 hrs ago #3
I'll tell you what's wrong. Primarying sitting Dems with another Dem doesn't get us... brush 18 hrs ago #6
Refusing to do so gets the 2024 results iemanja 17 hrs ago #15
It's not that hard to understand. Subbing one Dem for annother gets us 2024 all over again. brush 17 hrs ago #16
Approval of Democrats is at an all-time low iemanja 17 hrs ago #17
Again, replacing Dems with other Dems does not gain the majority. brush 16 hrs ago #18
Is your point that it's a lost cause? iemanja 15 hrs ago #21
New blood does not a competent leader make Keepthesoulalive 14 hrs ago #28
I think it's a case by case basis iemanja 13 hrs ago #30
Older Democrats? sheshe2 12 hrs ago #40
Oh sure, pushing out sitting Dems instead of funding races against vulnerable rethugs... brush 1 hr ago #59
A huge disappointment. The messaging is what the GOP eats up Nixie 3 hrs ago #50
So true. brush 1 hr ago #58
I disagree sboatcar 3 hrs ago #53
Disagree all you want, but getting the majority is the priority or trump will continue... brush 1 hr ago #57
Agreed ILikePie92 18 hrs ago #9
(1) If others are doing the same, point them out. W_HAMILTON 13 hrs ago #34
Excellent Points.. TY, W HAMILTON! Cha 12 hrs ago #43
What the fuck is wrong with Mountainguy 13 hrs ago #35
What is your definition of an "Institutionist Democrat"? sheshe2 12 hrs ago #42
Same as Establishment but being "anti-institutionist" isn't really a thing and doesn't have the groovy '60s betsuni 2 hrs ago #54
Primary out those that vote with trump, or who are silent in this fight for our democracy. Bravo. rich7862 3 hrs ago #51
Whataboutism at its very finest. GaYellowDawg 3 hrs ago #52
At $27 a-pop... fundraising can be very profitable. Oopsie Daisy 19 hrs ago #4
"I am once again asking you"... sheshe2 12 hrs ago #41
🤣😂👍️ Exactly! Oopsie Daisy 7 hrs ago #45
Looks like ILikePie92 18 hrs ago #5
Oh ILikePie92 18 hrs ago #7
See post #6. brush 18 hrs ago #10
Troubling nt delisen 18 hrs ago #8
Just put "the people" or "grassroots" in front of money and it's pure while everyone else's is a bribe from Satan. betsuni 18 hrs ago #11
Post removed Post removed 18 hrs ago #12
No it's not. Obama received a record amount of money from Wall Street. Did he refuse to sign betsuni 17 hrs ago #13
Is this the supposed reason he wants Democrats to stand up to fascism iemanja 17 hrs ago #14
Al Green stood up Keepthesoulalive 14 hrs ago #29
Obviously the point isn't to primary everyone. iemanja 13 hrs ago #31
No I don't Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #37
Another grifter mcar 16 hrs ago #19
There was a video on here yesterday with Brian Tyler Cohen and David Hogg..A good question n answer Deuxcents 14 hrs ago #26
His PAC raised $11.9 million. $10.7 million went to "administrative expenses" mcar 1 hr ago #60
I just get texts, not so much emails. ananda 16 hrs ago #20
Lot of people here sure hate David. Cuthbert Allgood 15 hrs ago #22
He seems to be good at dividing Dems MorbidButterflyTat 13 hrs ago #32
He is not the one dividing Democrats. Celerity 6 hrs ago #46
I'm confused these tax forms are from 2024 MagickMuffin 15 hrs ago #23
Isn't 2024 the most recent tax year? MichMan 3 hrs ago #48
What does the DNC Chair position pay again? Genuinely curious. flvegan 15 hrs ago #24
Waiting for the pivot of his PAC's mission statement, from getting a variety of young Democrats into office, to... LudwigPastorius 14 hrs ago #25
If I knew that over 95% of donations to a PAC went to staff & overhead, and less than 5% was used for the stated purpose MichMan 14 hrs ago #27
it's quite a grift, to put it charitably fujiyamasan 13 hrs ago #39
Donald Segretti had a term for people who set out to undermine Democrats. n/t valleyrogue 13 hrs ago #33
Yes I learned of his salary from the pac about 2 weeks ago Meowmee 13 hrs ago #36
Did you contribute to his PAC after receiving his passionate plea? MichMan 4 hrs ago #47
He's learned quick how to make money in politics. William769 7 hrs ago #44
Who is funding the PAC? JustAnotherGen 3 hrs ago #49
You are right, that is very important. JohnSJ 2 hrs ago #55
I guess that the technical term is 'suckers' Jose Garcia 1 hr ago #61
This kid claudette 2 hrs ago #56
there are lots of jobs that require you... mike_c 38 min ago #62

msongs

(71,128 posts)
1. he said he was gonna spend $20 mil but do not recall him providing the source of the money nt
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:21 PM
19 hrs ago

Meowmee

(8,713 posts)
38. I believe the source is his pac Leaders We Deserve
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:46 AM
13 hrs ago

Which also pays him a large salary. Ultimately the source is less important than the fact that he is breaking a neutrality agreement, and trying to use his position to primary dems he doesn’t approve of. If he wants to do this, he should resign and do it on his own time.

David Hogg-run group announces $20M initiative to support primary challengers to House Democrats

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/david-hogg-run-group-announces-20m-initiative-support/story?id=120861846

Sewa

(1,407 posts)
3. So what! Do you think he's the only one?
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 06:29 PM
19 hrs ago

Hogg has the Institutionist Dems running scared. Good for him.

Btw what’s wrong with giving Democratic voters more choice. Ultimately it comes down to the voters to decide, if they are given a choice of candidates.

brush

(59,620 posts)
6. I'll tell you what's wrong. Primarying sitting Dems with another Dem doesn't get us...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:04 PM
18 hrs ago

Last edited Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:02 PM - Edit history (1)

a majority in the House or Senate. What should be done is going after rethugs in purple districts, or in blue districts Biden won.

Getting the majority to be able to get bills to the floor and passed is WHAT'S IMPORTANT. Subbing one Dem for one Hogg prefers is get us nowhere.

It's not complicated.

Hogg is turning out to be a disappointment but he makes sure he feathers his own nest with nice. hefty salary.

Again, a disappointment.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
15. Refusing to do so gets the 2024 results
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:09 PM
17 hrs ago

which many are committed to repeating ad infinitum.

brush

(59,620 posts)
16. It's not that hard to understand. Subbing one Dem for annother gets us 2024 all over again.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:18 PM
17 hrs ago

Out of power.

Why don't you get that? We have to defeat republicans, not other Dems SO WE GET THE MAJORITY and then are able get control of bills to the floor and pass them. Also we stop rethugs from controlling the House and giving trump what he wants.

Not that complicated.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
17. Approval of Democrats is at an all-time low
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:40 PM
17 hrs ago

That is what continues with the status quo. Why do you think keeping older Democrats in office when the public wants new blood is going to turn out better than 2024? You've given no reason as to why the status quo gets us anything better than 2024,

brush

(59,620 posts)
18. Again, replacing Dems with other Dems does not gain the majority.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:16 PM
16 hrs ago

Defeat magat republicans, not Democrats. Not complicated. Getting the majority is the whole point.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
21. Is your point that it's a lost cause?
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:59 PM
15 hrs ago

Any Democrat will lose so why bother? That's what it sounds like. Again, you haven't given a single reason why repeating the status quo will result in anything different from 2024. You also haven't explained how introducing some new Democrats won't help, other than new Democrats won't do any better than the existing ones. How about primarying the ones who don't stand up to fascism? Is that an anathema to you too? Are you suggesting elected Democrats deserve a seat for life? I recalled these arguments being used against AOC, despite the fact it was a safe Democratic seat. People just couldn't bear a change.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,183 posts)
28. New blood does not a competent leader make
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:45 PM
14 hrs ago

I can name 2 younger senators Sinema who helped to destroy some of Bidens agenda and Fetterman who slobbers all over trump . New blood that is self serving only helps republicans. Wanting something new and shiny will not fix our problems. Only hard work and vetting the best candidate for the job no matter where they land on the age spectrum will fix our country.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
30. I think it's a case by case basis
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:18 AM
13 hrs ago

While someone new isn’t of itself necessarily an improvement, if they take a seat from a Democrat who won’t stand up to fascism, it is. Elections are meant to be democratic. We do not have a House of Lords: the notion that elected representatives should serve for life uncontested is undemocratic. The claim that a primary is the same as voting for a Republican is false. Of course we will all vote for the Democrats in the GE.

Fascism is the single issue of our time. Resisting it is all that matters.

sheshe2

(91,503 posts)
40. Older Democrats?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 01:26 AM
12 hrs ago

What age do you and David (25) consider old and in the way? What is the cut off, 40 50 60?

Why do you think keeping older Democrats in office when the public wants new blood


Here are a few. Do we get rid of them too?

Corey Booker 55
Elizabeth Warren 75
Bernie Sanders 83
Nancy Pelosi 85

brush

(59,620 posts)
59. Oh sure, pushing out sitting Dems instead of funding races against vulnerable rethugs...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:11 PM
1 hr ago

gets us closer to a majority in the House in '26 than whatever it is you're going on about.

This site is about electing Dems, not primarying sitting Dems.

Again, gaining the majoority to stop trump is the priority. There's nothing hard to understand about that.

Nixie

(17,609 posts)
50. A huge disappointment. The messaging is what the GOP eats up
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:47 AM
3 hrs ago

from what is politically called useful idiots.

Look at the California senate race with Katie Porter and Adam Schiff. She attacked a well-polling, dominant, popular Democrat for over a year with absolute nonsensical gibberish about corruption and all the other cool buzzwords they think they have to attack Democrats. It was not about giving voters a “choice.” It was about pushing a losing and failed narrative against our candidates. And they want DNC money for this…

sboatcar

(599 posts)
53. I disagree
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:54 AM
3 hrs ago

The democrats in congress now aren't standing up to Trump they way they should be. They should all be up in arms instead of doing nothing. They aren't serving their constituents by doing that. We need some strong people running the show, not people who 'may' send a slightly strongly worded letter about things.
We need some fresh blood in congress that will actually fight for us. Those who refuse need to move on.

brush

(59,620 posts)
57. Disagree all you want, but getting the majority is the priority or trump will continue...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:04 PM
1 hr ago

to fuck up the economy and our majority.

W_HAMILTON

(8,926 posts)
34. (1) If others are doing the same, point them out.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:26 AM
13 hrs ago

(2) People like David Hogg have been critical in the past of even mere ALLEGATIONS of the same sort of biased influence he is now himself trying to exert as a DNC leader. It's insanely hypocritical.

(3) Who the hell is David Hogg to foist a candidate upon voters? There is nothing precluding anyone from running in Democratic primaries -- hell, given some of our recent ones, you don't even need to be a Democrat... *cough cough*

Just because David Hogg doesn't approve of the job that someone is doing doesn't mean their ACTUAL CONSTITUENTS think the same. And -- as we've seen with Sinema and now it looks like Fetterman is next -- when someone's constituents turn on them, the voters know how to get rid of them. They don't need a random 20-something-year-old telling them who they should vote for instead.

betsuni

(27,800 posts)
54. Same as Establishment but being "anti-institutionist" isn't really a thing and doesn't have the groovy '60s
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 11:00 AM
2 hrs ago

vibe that "anti-establishment" has. I don't think "Institutionist Dems" is going to happen.

Also too, Cenk and his '60s band-PAC The Super-Populist Rebellions aren't pretending to be democratic socialists anymore. They finally gave up on making that happen (now that nobody running for president has to pretend FDR/LBJ were democratic socialists so the only true Democrat must be a socialist, too). Now they're admitting to being capitalists by calling themselves progressive capitalists.

rich7862

(450 posts)
51. Primary out those that vote with trump, or who are silent in this fight for our democracy. Bravo.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:51 AM
3 hrs ago

Oopsie Daisy

(5,615 posts)
45. 🤣😂👍️ Exactly!
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:39 AM
7 hrs ago

I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that it's easier for a politician to regularly and repeatedly return to the money-well if they promise to "split" the donation with some other group, cause or candidate. I guess that way, it kinda sounds altruistic. Maybe it has a psychological effect by making them appear to be less greedy since they're only keeping half for themselves. Apparently this is an effective and efficient way to encourage the donor is to loosen their purse strings, yet again. (Nice work if you can get it.)

ILikePie92

(80 posts)
5. Looks like
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:03 PM
18 hrs ago

...the knives are out for David. Guess that's what happens when you piss off those in power.

I'm sure there's a whole group of people looking for dirt on him now.

Same old circular DNC firing squad.

We're only hurting ourselves doing this.

I heard him out during several interviews on TV. His plan doesn't sound that crazy to me.



betsuni

(27,800 posts)
11. Just put "the people" or "grassroots" in front of money and it's pure while everyone else's is a bribe from Satan.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 07:37 PM
18 hrs ago

Insist that it's just little tiny itty bitty $27 donations (still pure even if the legal limit is reached by donating numerous times, but if a Democrat receives the legal limit all at once it's an immoral corrupting bribe from Satan).

If he's using a DNC contact list, doesn't it have Establishment cooties?

Response to betsuni (Reply #11)

betsuni

(27,800 posts)
13. No it's not. Obama received a record amount of money from Wall Street. Did he refuse to sign
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:03 PM
17 hrs ago

laws regulating Wall Street. No. They gave their money to Mitt Romney next election, why Michael Moore predicted Mitt would win, because he had more money. So what? You just fundraise elsewhere. Money doesn't guarantee winning, it can't force anyone to vote a certain way.

Campaign finance reform is a Democratic issue and all candidates ran on it.

What Democrats changed policy because of campaign contributions? Who?

Democrats don't listen because of lobster and champagne.

iemanja

(55,862 posts)
14. Is this the supposed reason he wants Democrats to stand up to fascism
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 08:07 PM
17 hrs ago

and actually win elections?

Keepthesoulalive

(1,183 posts)
29. Al Green stood up
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:53 PM
14 hrs ago

He’s in his 70’s should we primary him, he also brings in money to help his district. Let’s try and run a clear headed campaign to get rid of trump , not some knee jerk magic potion. Young does not mean good old does not mean bad.
We need competent leadership and don’t give a fig about age.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,183 posts)
37. No I don't
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:37 AM
13 hrs ago

This discussion about new blood only seems to discriminate because of age and time in congress.
I would appreciate who he feels should be primaried ,list please or is it left up to him to decide who our candidates should be.

Deuxcents

(21,884 posts)
26. There was a video on here yesterday with Brian Tyler Cohen and David Hogg..A good question n answer
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:34 PM
14 hrs ago

Interview that I wish I knew how to pull up. Texas Towelie posted it but it’s on YouTube, too. If you watch it, I don’t believe you will walk away with the same opinion you’ve just posted here.

mcar

(44,480 posts)
60. His PAC raised $11.9 million. $10.7 million went to "administrative expenses"
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:27 PM
1 hr ago

only $266,000 was spent on campaigns.

That is grift, pure and simple.

ananda

(31,533 posts)
20. I just get texts, not so much emails.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 09:45 PM
16 hrs ago

I haven't donated a red cent to anyone since the election.

I'm hunkering down now and trying to save money.

MagickMuffin

(17,572 posts)
23. I'm confused these tax forms are from 2024
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:19 PM
15 hrs ago

Have we traveled back in time.

We should be working together on how to advance our election strategy. I think David Hogg should focus on unchallenged seats. Get younger people to run against republicans that don’t have a democratic opponent.

As far as the pac goes and using the dnc’s email list I believe is wrong, and he should be penalized for that, whatever that is.

I’d hate to see the Democratic Party run him off when he could and can be a valuable asset to the party.


LudwigPastorius

(12,262 posts)
25. Waiting for the pivot of his PAC's mission statement, from getting a variety of young Democrats into office, to...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:11 PM
14 hrs ago

getting David Hogg into office.

He's stated that he will run for Congress when he turns 25. I just don't know what seat he's going to try for.

MichMan

(14,957 posts)
27. If I knew that over 95% of donations to a PAC went to staff & overhead, and less than 5% was used for the stated purpose
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:35 PM
14 hrs ago

I sure as hell wouldn't give them a penny and would find a better use for it like my local animal rescue group.

Good luck raising the $20 million he is proposing

fujiyamasan

(43 posts)
39. it's quite a grift, to put it charitably
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:51 AM
13 hrs ago

And we all know if we saw a figure less sympathetic than Hogg doing this, that’s the word that would be used to describe this.

Another word to describe would be scam. Perhaps that’s harsh, so I’ll stick with grift.

Meowmee

(8,713 posts)
36. Yes I learned of his salary from the pac about 2 weeks ago
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:37 AM
13 hrs ago

Does anyone know what he is being paid by DNC? I know for sure that I and a friend both received emails from him last week asking for money. And neither of us ever signed up for the emails for that pac so they had to come from a DNC mailing list.

MichMan

(14,957 posts)
47. Did you contribute to his PAC after receiving his passionate plea?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:56 AM
4 hrs ago

His PAC is named appropriately

claudette

(5,297 posts)
56. This kid
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 11:08 AM
2 hrs ago

is really getting on my nerves. I'm glad he survived the school shooting, but for gawd's sake - get OUT of Dem politics now!

mike_c

(36,529 posts)
62. there are lots of jobs that require you...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 01:17 PM
38 min ago

...to raise funds for your salary. That is not uncommon.

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