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lapucelle

(20,067 posts)
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:06 PM 15 hrs ago

Ratfvcker entryist Cenk Uygur's latest money grab: He's going to try to takeover the Democratic Party (again)

Aging Young Turk Cenk Uygur is launching yet another pac whose goal is to pay him a hefty salary AND take over the Democratic Party.

From the pac's website:



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Messaging strategies include "ad" [sic] and "stunts", but absolutely no proofreading.



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Ratfvcker entryist Cenk Uygur's latest money grab: He's going to try to takeover the Democratic Party (again) (Original Post) lapucelle 15 hrs ago OP
He needs to... 2naSalit 15 hrs ago #1
I never liked that name. Dave Bowman 15 hrs ago #2
Many victims suffered horrific torture and physical abuse before death. John1956PA 15 hrs ago #5
As much as I dislike Cenk, I don't think he had anything to with the Armenian genocide ... marble falls 13 hrs ago #9
While I find him H2O Man 12 hrs ago #13
And Cenk being Turkish is probably only a coincidence ... marble falls 5 hrs ago #20
And the fact that he wrote an editorial as a senior at U Penn denying the genocide lapucelle 5 hrs ago #21
Right. H2O Man 28 min ago #27
Actually it's pretty weak for Uygur to pretend that the name isn't a reference to the Ottoman Empire group. lapucelle 4 hrs ago #23
The Hitler Jugend was something else entirely DFW 8 hrs ago #19
Why is he still a thing Johonny 15 hrs ago #3
Yuck !!!!! Not a fan Trueblue1968 11 hrs ago #16
Is he a part of JustAnotherGen 15 hrs ago #4
Good question. sheshe2 12 hrs ago #10
Maybe not, Cenk said Hogg's PAC is only doing safe blue seats but he's going for the full revolution betsuni 8 hrs ago #17
It wouldn't surprise me if Uygur tried to glom on to the latest iteration of entryist politics. lapucelle 4 hrs ago #25
Yeah JustAnotherGen 3 hrs ago #26
After all the Dem-bashing sh*t he has pulled, he's still a Democrat? Eugene 15 hrs ago #6
I don't think he ever was a Democrat. He was a founder of Justice Democrats. lapucelle 14 hrs ago #7
He was never a D he is really right wing leaning and crazy and it was pretty obvious Meowmee 12 hrs ago #12
Bet we see a lot of people trying to make a name and money from upcoming elections. Silent Type 14 hrs ago #8
He needs to take a ticket. sheshe2 12 hrs ago #11
Grifters. JI7 12 hrs ago #14
Super-Populist Rebellion (again) "Going against Trump and the Democratic Establishment"! betsuni 11 hrs ago #15
My assessment of him for decades has been: DFW 8 hrs ago #18
What moron would give this grifter any money? Yikes. tritsofme 5 hrs ago #22
Didn't he talk glowingly about DJT? n/t Jacson6 4 hrs ago #24
Here's what I say to him: MineralMan 4 min ago #28

Dave Bowman

(5,019 posts)
2. I never liked that name.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:20 PM
15 hrs ago

The Young Turks commited a genocide.

"The Armenian genocide took place between the spring of 1915 and the fall of 1916. At least 664,000 and possibly as many as 1.2 million Armenians were killed. They died in both massacres and individual killings. They were also killed through systematic ill-treatment, exposure, and starvation."


https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-armenian-genocide-1915-16-overview

If they were Germans would it be appropriate if they called themselves The Hitler Youth?

John1956PA

(3,970 posts)
5. Many victims suffered horrific torture and physical abuse before death.
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:36 PM
15 hrs ago

On the basis of its name alone, I could never countenance that web stream.

marble falls

(64,859 posts)
9. As much as I dislike Cenk, I don't think he had anything to with the Armenian genocide ...
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:54 PM
13 hrs ago

...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turk_Revolution

Young Turk Revolution

The Young Turk Revolution (July 1908; Turkish: Jön Türk Devrimi) was a constitutionalist revolution in the Ottoman Empire. Revolutionaries belonging to the Internal Committee of Union and Progress, an organization of the Young Turks movement, forced Sultan Abdul Hamid II to restore the Constitution, recall the parliament, and schedule an election. Thus began the Second Constitutional Era which lasted from 1908–1912 and also the Turkish Revolution, an era of political instability and social change which lasted for more than four decades.

The revolution took place in Ottoman Rumeli in the context of the Macedonian Struggle and the increasing instability of the Hamidian regime. It began with CUP member Ahmed Niyazi's flight into the Albanian highlands. He was soon joined by İsmail Enver, Eyub Sabri, and other Unionist officers. They networked with local Albanians and utilized their connections within the Salonica based Third Army to instigate a large revolt. A string of assassinations by Unionist Fedai also contributed to Abdul Hamid's capitulation. Though the constitutional regime established after the revolution eventually succumbed to Unionist dictatorship by 1913, the Ottoman sultanate ceased to be the base of power in Turkey after 1908.

Immediately after the revolution, Bulgaria declared independence from the Ottoman Empire and Austria-Hungary's annexation of nominal Ottoman territory sparked the Bosnian Crisis.

After an attempted monarchist uprising known as the 31 March incident in favor of Abdul Hamid the following year, he was deposed and his half-brother Mehmed V ascended the throne.

H2O Man

(76,670 posts)
13. While I find him
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:59 AM
12 hrs ago

to be obnoxious, the definition of "young turk" has a meaning in US politics that has absolutely nothing to do with the historic events in the Ottoman Empire. It seems weak to pretend otherwise.

Thus, I am definitely recommending your post. Thank you.

marble falls

(64,859 posts)
20. And Cenk being Turkish is probably only a coincidence ...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 07:50 AM
5 hrs ago

...I keep forgetting that if it wasn't born of the US it has no significance, but even in the American sense of the expression of 'young Turks' was about progressives being tired of waiting for their turn, who were moved to action to change conservative 'cautions'.

H2O Man

(76,670 posts)
27. Right.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 01:20 PM
28 min ago

When one considers the options, his wanting to challenge the establishment seems obviously much more likely than he was seeking to re-establish the Ottoman empire in the US. I'll note that finding "connections" between things that actually have no relationship -- "it's a plot, I tell you!" -- is a feature associated with schizophrenia.

lapucelle

(20,067 posts)
23. Actually it's pretty weak for Uygur to pretend that the name isn't a reference to the Ottoman Empire group.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:33 AM
4 hrs ago

Cenk's plausible deniability timeline does not stand up to scrutiny.

Uygur was already blogging under the name The Young Turk when he was (by his own admission) "still [sic] a conservative trying to be edgy and politically incorrect".


‘Young Turks’ Founder Cenk Uygur Apologizes for ‘Ugly,’ ‘Insensitive’ Old Blog Posts (Exclusive)

Liberal host once wrote that women are genetically “flawed” because they don’t want to have sex often enough

Uygur said he wrote the posts while he was still a conservative, before he underwent a political transformation into a libera. His news organization, The Young Turks, now offers left-leaning stories and commentary.

“If someone said that today, I would heavily criticize them on the show and rightfully so, and I have. I’ve criticized myself over the years,” he added. “I had not yet matured and I was still a conservative who thought that stuff was politically incorrect and edgy. When you read it now, it looks really, honestly, ugly. And it’s very uncomfortable to read.”

https://www.thewrap.com/young-turks-cenk-uygur-blog-breasts-women-flawed/


https://web.archive.org/web/20000401000000*/http://www.youngturk.com/newpage41.htm

DFW

(57,806 posts)
19. The Hitler Jugend was something else entirely
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:37 AM
8 hrs ago

It was a state apparatus involved in a mass brain-washing operation of racially selected children.

A friend of mine was one of them. He was ten years old when the war ended, and it took him a while, even with institutionalized de-Nazification, to return to a semblance of normalcy. In his seventies, he used to tell me that the degree of total brain-washing they were subjected to was almost impossible for someone to imagine if they had not undergone it themselves. In his elder years, he used to tell me how much he hated the socialist regime in East Germany, since their youth indoctrination programs reminded him so much of what he went through as a child.

betsuni

(27,800 posts)
17. Maybe not, Cenk said Hogg's PAC is only doing safe blue seats but he's going for the full revolution
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:11 AM
8 hrs ago

monty and taking over America, red and blue and purple.

Cenk's not dumb, not a true believer of this pseudo revolution junk. He'll fizzle out if there's not enough money in it, and I don't think there is, like last time with the Justice Democrats. Honest grifting!

lapucelle

(20,067 posts)
25. It wouldn't surprise me if Uygur tried to glom on to the latest iteration of entryist politics.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 09:45 AM
4 hrs ago

Cenk is good at sniffing out the money wherever it may be.

The Young Turks Network Raises $4 Million From Former Republican Presidential Candidate[/b]

The Young Turks Network has just announced $4 million in new funding from an unlikely source: former Louisiana Governor and 2012 Republican presidential candidate Buddy Roemer. The seed money, which includes an option to go up to $8 million, came from the politician’s private equity fund Roemer, Robinson, Melville & Co., LLC.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/the-young-turks-network-raises-4-million-from-former-republican-presidential-candidate/

JustAnotherGen

(34,709 posts)
26. Yeah
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 10:09 AM
3 hrs ago

As IF he's not trying to take over our Party and destroy it from within. Cenk is as bad an actor as Putin.

I wrote what I wrote.

Eugene

(64,526 posts)
6. After all the Dem-bashing sh*t he has pulled, he's still a Democrat?
Thu Apr 24, 2025, 10:45 PM
15 hrs ago

Cenk's "strategy" has been to appeal to MAGA while throwing people MAGA hates under the bus. No thanks.

He's fighting to stay relevant in the progressive space (and solvent).

Meowmee

(8,713 posts)
12. He was never a D he is really right wing leaning and crazy and it was pretty obvious
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:54 AM
12 hrs ago

sheshe2

(91,503 posts)
11. He needs to take a ticket.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:52 AM
12 hrs ago

We have several in line that are planning the same exact thing.

betsuni

(27,800 posts)
15. Super-Populist Rebellion (again) "Going against Trump and the Democratic Establishment"!
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:07 AM
11 hrs ago

Majorities don't matter, fighting like hell to get bills passed does! This time it will totally work. The Super-Populists will beat Republicans and the Revolut... I mean the Super Rebellion will begin.

The problem with Justice Democrats candidates was that after they won, Cenk says, they compromised to get legislature passed. This time, NO COMPROMISE or else the Super-Populist Rebellion candidate will be totally cut off, they're out, NO DINNER FOR YOU GO UP TO YOUR ROOM AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

The most important issue for the Super-Populist Rebellion is money out of politics. Please send money! Love, Cenk.

DFW

(57,806 posts)
18. My assessment of him for decades has been:
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:28 AM
8 hrs ago

"A minor creative talent in search of an income."

But that's just my impression from over here.

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