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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSNBC just reported that Musk has tweeted that
Trump is in the Epstein files.

MayReasonRule
(3,544 posts)Elon Musk: Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!
— 24Hours Ukraine (@24hoursukraine.bsky.social) 2025-06-05T19:14:27.524Z
Mysterian
(5,766 posts)I thought they would kiss and make up but not anymore.
MayReasonRule
(3,544 posts)Fascism feeds upon it's self.
Forever and always.
B.See
(5,834 posts)it's beginning to look pretty real.
NOT that the Trump/Epstein news is any surprise to me. I've seen the photos and videos of the two being quite chummy.
And there's that person who claimed Trump raped her at age 13 (if I recall), but who's since disappeared.
yes donald trump was accused of raping a 13 year old
So, no surprise there.
(Though I'd suspect MAGA would no doubt give Trump a free pass, regardless. They'll whip out some 'to forgive is divine' bs.)
Biophilic
(5,873 posts)Lovie777
(19,320 posts)
I think that info is there in them files.
LastDemocratInSC
(4,082 posts)Dave Bowman
(5,455 posts)Vinca
(52,364 posts)senseandsensibility
(22,827 posts)contracts. I know I said this stupid squabble bores me on another thread, but the depths they've sunk to in an hour or two is amazing.
Silent Type
(10,470 posts)sheshe2
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Hekate
(98,530 posts)


COL Mustard
(7,493 posts)You have enough popcorn for this!
617Blue
(1,961 posts)Wounded Bear
(62,480 posts)mwmisses4289
(1,511 posts)magicarpet
(18,455 posts)..... with a ten year old he got all hopped up on cocaine ? Then trDUMP/Epstein made a commercial grade porn flick of them romping in the hay ?
Oh well,... the MAGA base would just say djt likes young virgins without STDs,... can you blame him. He is a germaphobe.
Besides boys will be boys.
Johnny2X2X
(23,056 posts)Of course he is, Trump and Epstein were best friends for over a decade.
But this feud is going to b fun now.
dweller
(26,832 posts)To release the real reason Pisswig won 2024 , I expect America ends by midnight
✌🏻
Srkdqltr
(8,642 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(5,153 posts)WarGamer
(17,511 posts)Torchlight
(5,073 posts)Musk has Twitter, and Mr. trump has Fox. The other outlets will have to jump on this or be left out in the ratings cold during the juiciest divorce trial of the century.
Mild temps forecast and now this... it's looking to be a pretty sweet weekend!
cadoman
(1,464 posts)What motive would they have to stop?
Elon has a motive now to reveal the truth, but X is domiciled in the US--Drumpf could still stop him if he publishes the info...
doc03
(38,116 posts)EarlG
(23,046 posts)But I think the bigger story is that Musk and Trump are going at it like this on social media right now. Politically speaking, this seems like a genuine earthquake.
calimary
(87,030 posts)uponit7771
(93,073 posts)Don't think it's going to work, Enron level MAGA stank is forever
LearnedHand
(4,807 posts)FrankBooth
(1,826 posts)Then he has nothing and will be eaten alive by the Magats. It would not be possible for your garden variety Magat to care any less about the Epstein files if they make Trump look bad.
EarlG
(23,046 posts)The social media warfare that Trump and Musk are engaged in right now is hopefully going to damage at least one of them, and I don't really mind which of them gets it worst, to be honest.
Pachamama
(17,368 posts)
uponit7771
(93,073 posts)GopherGal
(2,529 posts)Then again, can't mourn too long for any DOGE bro who faces the consequences of his actions...
Mike Niendorff
(3,603 posts)There are reports that Anonymous is doing a big "countdown" to a major "release", set to drop right at the beginning of July.
If that's related to the Epstein files (ie: perhaps Anonymous got ahold of them in uncensored form), then maybe that's an element that might be playing out behind the scenes here (???).
I honestly have no idea what to believe yet, but something is definitely going on.
Hell, maybe giving "God-level" access to DOGE ended up giving the DOGE-hackers access to all this info on Trump, too (???).
So many possiblities ...
MDN
Pachamama
(17,368 posts)The God - level DOGE access - Anonymous Drop and much more.
I think as much as I am humored by all this - its also terrifying to know that one has the nuclear codes and the other data and info and satellites.
I also think that Elon is paranoid enough and has so much security that he knows to have built a failsafe and even to have let Trump know that if something happens to him - everything gets released.
vapor2
(2,664 posts)orangecrush
(25,585 posts)But others on the fence, yes.
tavernier
(13,796 posts)Wonder how long before he discovers that Rump was tried and convicted.
Hekate
(98,530 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(18,591 posts)If Krasnov is the gilded sewer rat we know he is anyway, why did you drop $250 million to get such a person elected president of the country you supposedly luuuuuuuv so much? Hmmm?
Don't bother, I know the answer. It was strictly business, nothing personal.
Hekate
(98,530 posts)It may not last beyond today. But I dont think Ive felt this spark since Nixon started to go down.
Peacetrain
(24,113 posts)don't you think
Hekate
(98,530 posts)
Cha
(312,980 posts)Spill those Beans!
Peacetrain
(24,113 posts)Trump on Truth Social and Musk on X... makes you wander what will be left in the morning when those two get done
Cha
(312,980 posts)Blowing up on each other for the World
Hope this Ends Badly for Mump and Good for the Planet 🕯️🕊️💜🌈🌊🍀
Peacetrain
(24,113 posts)
johnnyfins
(2,381 posts)We have already seen the flight logs. What is Elon up to? I just dont believe him.
If this is as bad as it seems, TSF would be all over Troth Senchel trashing Elon.
Still not buying the bs.
calimary
(87,030 posts)Hes usually such an attention hog, online AND off.
flashman13
(1,388 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,064 posts)
greatauntoftriplets
(177,944 posts)
PatrickforB
(15,245 posts)An utter failure as a man.
Musk not much better.
Cha
(312,980 posts)Of course he is... Does this mean the bromance is Over?
questionseverything
(11,057 posts)Musk said, trump wouldnt of won the election w/o him
Said the repubs wouldnt have won the house and very specifically says they would only have 51 repub senators
But that you ignore
🧐
Keepthesoulalive
(1,514 posts)Being accused of messing around with underage girls and hiding it will make some magats stay home. This is war and you do what works. TACO
vanlassie
(6,033 posts)be blurted out in a ketamine thunderstorm.
generalbetrayus
(1,077 posts)But then there were only three kids involved in my divorce, not 19.
paulkienitz
(1,449 posts)TBF
(35,165 posts)I guess these 2 could be big enough idiots to go after each other - but I'm really worried that more is going on. Maybe Putin? Is he going after Ukraine w/more serious weapons? Whenever Trump starts acting out, I'm wondering what's really going on.
Tootbsb
(142 posts)EarlG
(23,046 posts)That's brand new news as of this afternoon.
Tootbsb
(142 posts)But its comical to see people act like they didnt know.
EarlG
(23,046 posts)Whether Trump is in the Epstein files or not isn't the issue at hand. It's the fact that the richest man in the world has just publicly accused the President of the United States (his former buddy) of being a pedophile. That's the news.
Tootbsb
(142 posts)Funny Elon is using it as a mud pie.
FakeNoose
(37,815 posts)It sounds almost like a backhanded threat, don't you think?
If Musk was or is currently in touch with Putin (as we suspect he is) then maybe Pooty gave Musk the dirt to use against Chump? Hmmm....
most Trump humping assholes really don't think their savior is a fucking PEDOPHILE
mdbl
(6,907 posts)They vote for him no matter how heinous he is.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,514 posts)They dont like being associated with a loser, he promised to release those files and now they know why they will never be released. His invincibility is being stripped away and I dont care who does it.
NNadir
(36,163 posts)BluenFLA
(211 posts)Watching 2 giant monsters fighting it out !
NNadir
(36,163 posts)Celerity
(50,827 posts)biocube
(113 posts)Come at us with something we didn't know.
Buddyzbuddy
(1,161 posts)Leon had access to much information and means to download, did you think he didn't?
His thing is money and power and dopey thought he just liked him.
Leon is letting him know not to come after him.
The Felon thinks he's Putin and will want to take Leon's riches but Leon just let him know, don't even think about pushing me out of a window.
I think this is going to be fun. Fatman and Rat face Miller vs Leon. Heh,heh,heh.
niyad
(125,164 posts)rurallib
(63,905 posts)could take a lot of ketamine, aderall, cocaine and whatever. Let's hope they both stay out of their minds enough to really let lose.
We need them in prime fighting shape with their fee fees really hurt.
2MuchNoise
(295 posts)thought crime
(488 posts)Emile
(35,886 posts)spinbaby
(15,289 posts)All evidence points to it.
mwmisses4289
(1,511 posts)also have had epstein murdered for the same reasons. T might have had the strongest motive, but he wasn't the only one.
no_hypocrisy
(52,250 posts)Ptah
(33,820 posts)They're eating the DOGE! They're eating the ketamine!
Kid Berwyn
(21,227 posts)
The Epstein-Barr Problem of New York Citys Dalton School
JERRY LAMBE
July 13th, 2019, 10:50 am
Excerpt...
Epstein, who was charged last week by federal authorities in the Southern District of New York with sex trafficking with sex-trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex-trafficking, was a 20 year old college drop-out when he was hired to teach at Dalton by the schools headmaster Donald Barr in the mid 1970s. Donald Barr was the father of current United States Attorney General William Barr, who is currently overseeing Epsteins prosecution.
According to at least one former student, Dalton alums have long joked about Barrs hiring of Epstein..
The joke has been [that] this is the Epstein-Barr problem at Dalton, said Harry Segal, a 1974 graduate who is now a senior lecturer at Cornell University and Weill Cornell Medical College, in an interview with the Huffington Post. Epstein-Barr is a type of herpes virus best known as the cause of infectious mononucleosis.
Scott Spizer, who graduated in 1976, said that Epstein was most remembered for his persistent attention on teenage girls in the hallways, recalled a night when the young educator showed up at a party where Dalton students were drinking.
I can remember thinking at the time, This is wrong, Spizer said in an interview with the New York Times.
Continues...
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-epstein-barr-problem-of-new-york-citys-dalton-school/
Better late than never, I guess.
muriel_volestrangler
(104,091 posts)They should initiate a formal investigation of his immigration status because I am of the strong belief that he is an illegal alien, and he should be deported from the country immediately.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/jun/05/donald-trump-travel-ban-elon-musk-joe-biden-friedrich-merz-us-politics-live-news-updates?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-684210358f088672b8b66174#block-684210358f088672b8b66174
Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point

Iggo
(48,989 posts)Ready? Go!
Ford_Prefect
(8,404 posts)What do you think his integrated AI Master Control Program will do when he has access to all of your information????
Jilly_in_VA
(12,407 posts)That's how.
JoseBalow
(7,897 posts)
ImNotGod
(854 posts)Dave Bowman
(5,455 posts)
GopherGal
(2,529 posts)
I'll have to wait until tomorrow. Will go add it to the grocery list, though.
In the mean time, I'm not gonna lose too much sleep choosing sides here. They're both thoroughly despicable husks of humanity.

Dave Bowman
(5,455 posts)poli-junkie
(1,309 posts)as attorney in Florida? It would be awesome if Elon outs Bondi as well 🤩
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,210 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:50 AM - Edit history (1)
Elon and I had a great relationship, the president said, referring to his former DOGE chief and campaign donor. I dont know if we will anymore.
Just a few days ago, Trump and Musk were pals. The president sang the praises of his megadonor and handed the billionaire a golden key emblazoned with the White House insignia.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-06-05T19:39:31.179Z
A lot can happen in a few days. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/elon-musk-trump-derangement-syndrome-rcna211232
Elon was wearing thin, I asked him to leave, I took away his EV Mandate that forced everyone to buy Electric Cars that nobody else wanted (that he knew for months I was going to do!), and he just went CRAZY! The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elons Governmental Subsidies and Contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didnt do it!
It was, to be sure, a serious escalation. NBC News reported, Various estimates have been put forward on just how much Musks firms, primarily SpaceX and Tesla, benefit from U.S. government contracts and subsidies. The Washington Post has put the figure at $38 billion, with SpaceX President and COO Gwynne Shotwell estimating that company alone benefits from about $22 billion in federal spending. Reuters has reported that the true figure is classified due to the nature of many of the contracts Musks firms are under.
Less than an hour later, the GOP megadonor responded with a remarkable rhetorical volley. Time to drop the really big bomb: [Trump] is in the Epstein files, Musk wrote on his own platform, X. That is the real reason they have not been made public." Referencing the president's initials, he added, "Have a nice day, DJT!.....
That paved the way for the pièce de résistance: the president suggesting that his former DOGE chief is suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lqupivusue2v
Link to tweet
Elon and I had a great relationship, the Republican concluded. I dont know if we will anymore.....
There's no word yet on whether the president will ask for his golden key back.
The Butler
(38 posts)Maybe there are a few Republican Senators that will grow a pair and flip on the passage of the bill. The Magats do not care.
uponit7771
(93,073 posts)mucifer
(25,238 posts)k_buddy762
(638 posts)Jacson6
(1,416 posts)Sheesh!
donheld
(21,326 posts)tRump is a 34x convicted felon already. He's a known insurrectionist. He's very likely a traitor. Still nobody will do anything to stop him.
DFW
(58,482 posts)There is no way Bondi would investigate it, even if she had a HD video of the whole event.
Maybe she has some hidden ace up her sleeve that guarantees that she will not end up like John Mitchell. I fervently hope that she does not. Compared to her, William Barr was a choir boy.
ECL213
(389 posts)I hope someone in the worthless press pool follows up with, "So, the Administration gave someone with a known drug problem access to some of American's most sensitive data?"
aggiesal
(10,176 posts)DUH 🙄
Marcuse
(8,527 posts)
evolves
(5,615 posts)NO ONE.
What a surprise - NOT.
Initech
(105,632 posts)