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Kid Berwyn

(21,227 posts)
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 10:14 AM Jun 6

Trump Says Germany Being Liberated From Nazis Was "Not a Great Day"

Trump really feels sorry for the NAZIs on D-Day.



Trump Says Germany Being Liberated From Nazis Was “Not a Great Day”

Donald Trump made the deranged comment in a meeting with the German chancellor.


by Edith Olmstead
The New Republic, June 5, 2025

Does Donald Trump think that German Chancellor Friedrich Merz is a Nazi?

During a press conference with Merz Thursday, Trump seemed confused when the foreign leader brought up the anniversary of the D-Day invasion, when U.S. troops landed on the beaches in Normandy during World War II, on June 6, 1944. The military operation marked a significant turning point in the war against the Nazis.

“That was not a pleasant day for you?” Trump asked Merz. The U.S. president then turned to the press, adding, “This was not a great day!”

“No, that was not a pleasant—well, but in the long run, Mr. President, this was the liberation of my country from Nazi dictatorship,” Merz said, as the U.S. president laughed.

Snip...

This strange remark is yet another installment of the president’s sympathetic ideas about Nazis. Last month, during a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Trump suggested that some Nazi soldiers had treated their Jewish prisoners with “love.” Trump also infamously claimed that Hitler had done “some good things.”

Continues...

https://newrepublic.com/post/196201/donald-trump-germany-d-day-not-great

There are few words that adequately describe Trump, "Traitor" being the first I would use in front of children.

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Trump Says Germany Being Liberated From Nazis Was "Not a Great Day" (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Jun 6 OP
Trum 3auld6phart Jun 6 #1
His first Secretary of State and I agree with that personal assessment. Kid Berwyn Jun 6 #2
I don't know if it makes him sympathetic to the Nazi's or shows he's incapable of complex thought Renew Deal Jun 6 #3
Both, likely. Kid Berwyn Jun 6 #5
This article by Tomasky is something we've ALL been saying on DU for the last 10 years FakeNoose Jun 6 #10
We said that on November 4, 2020, too. Kid Berwyn Jun 6 #11
Trump is ignorant bmichaelh Jun 6 #4
Traitor in Deed with a Goldbrick for a Personality Plated in Fake Gold Flake Kid Berwyn Jun 6 #6
K&R UTUSN Jun 6 #7
One NAZI Gasbag Puffed Up Another Kid Berwyn Jun 6 #8
"for you" WarGamer Jun 6 #9
Absolutely one-upmanship. Kid Berwyn Jun 6 #12
My grandfather was on the front lines of Normandy. Initech Jun 6 #13
We owe our freedom to him. Kid Berwyn Jun 6 #14
Amen to that! Initech Jun 6 #15

Kid Berwyn

(21,227 posts)
2. His first Secretary of State and I agree with that personal assessment.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 10:35 AM
Jun 6

"Trump is a fucking moron." -- The Honorable Rex Tillerson of EXXON.



Personally, I'd like to see his head and brain preserved for encapsulation in some type of cryogenic prison where he could serve out an infinite number of life sentences.

Renew Deal

(84,253 posts)
3. I don't know if it makes him sympathetic to the Nazi's or shows he's incapable of complex thought
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 10:38 AM
Jun 6

He seems to think that because Germany "lost" it was bad for them, when in reality they were freed from genocidal dictatorship (no matter how many of them participated in it at the time).

Kid Berwyn

(21,227 posts)
5. Both, likely.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 02:20 PM
Jun 6

Don't know anyone who ever held office with a shallower understanding of history.



Donald Trump Really Is a Lot Dumber Than We Thought. Like, a Lot!

His reading of American history is shockingly stupid, even for him.


by Michael Tomasky
The New Republic, April 4, 2025

Excerpt...

There’s a lot to say about these tariffs and how destructive they are, and most of it has been said. My colleague Timothy Noah wrote about the stupidity of tariffs as policy and how Trump has already cost him personally thousands of dollars. But I want to focus on something different here. I want to focus on Trump’s understanding of history. It’s so shockingly dumb—yes, even for him—that it’s hard to believe that we have a president of the United States who is this ignorant.

Here’s what Trump said the other day, and he has said versions of it a number of times: “In the 1880s, they established a commission to decide what they were going to do with the vast sums of money they were collecting. We were collecting so much money so fast, we didn’t know what to do with it. Isn’t that a nice problem to have?”

OK. First of all. Nobody can tell what commission he’s talking about. President Chester Arthur empaneled a commission that recommended reducing tariffs by 20 to 25 percent, going hard against the conventional wisdom of the day. But Congress defied him, lowering tariffs by just an average of around 1.5 percent (and yes, that’s another thing—Congress is supposed to set tariffs, not the president, making this move, among other things, an impeachment-worthy “abuse of power,” a phrase invoked by The Wall Street Journal editorial board Thursday).

Snip...

Here are some numbers from the St. Louis Fed, which go back to the Great Depression. During the New Deal, as Roosevelt was just constructing the first iteration of the American welfare state, federal spending as a percentage of GDP got up to around 10 percent. During World War II, when the government took over a number of industries, it shot up to around 40 percent. In the postwar era, it has indeed hovered around 20, indicating the liberal-conservative tug of war over federal spending. Interestingly, it rose a little under Ronald Reagan (military spending), and it reached its highest postwar point, 30.7 percent, under … Donald Trump, during the pandemic.

So that is where federal spending as a percentage of GDP has been for nearly a century—17 percent, 22 percent, 30 percent in a crisis. Want to take a guess as to what it was in 1900? Maybe 11 percent? Nine percent? Seven? Try 2.7 percent.

In other words—tariffs could cover the cost of what the federal government did because the federal government didn’t do anything!

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https://newrepublic.com/post/193614/donald-trump-tariffs-dumb-history-income-tax

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Greatest imbecile in history, probably.

FakeNoose

(37,811 posts)
10. This article by Tomasky is something we've ALL been saying on DU for the last 10 years
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:16 PM
Jun 6

I guess Michael Tomasky is one of those guys who lurks here? I don't know.

Chump is amazingly stupid, and his brain shrinks even more every day. The Alzheimer's is metastasizing in him. We have to win the Senate and the House in 2026 and be rid of him for good. That is all.

bmichaelh

(865 posts)
4. Trump is ignorant
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 01:27 PM
Jun 6

In his bunker, Hitler gave orders to Speer to destroy the German infrastructure.

Hitler did not want it falling into Allied hands. Speer refused.
Perhaps, Hitler wanted his own Götterdämmerung.

Allied victory and the Marshall Plan were greater alternatives than what Hitler wanted.

Kid Berwyn

(21,227 posts)
6. Traitor in Deed with a Goldbrick for a Personality Plated in Fake Gold Flake
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jun 6


Here he gives a conspiratorial wink to the United States' chief adversary, Vladimir Putin.



‘The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy

The KGB ‘played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality’, Yuri Shvets, a key source for a new book, tells the Guardian


by David Smith
The Guardian, January 29, 2021

Excerpt…

“This is an example where people were recruited when they were just students and then they rose to important positions; something like that was happening with Trump,” Shvets said by phone on Monday from his home in Virginia.

Shvets, a KGB major, had a cover job as a correspondent in Washington for the Russian news agency Tass during the 1980s. He moved to the US permanently in 1993 and gained American citizenship. He works as a corporate security investigator and was a partner of Alexander Litvinenko, who was assassinated in London in 2006.

Unger describes how Trump first appeared on the Russians’ radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech model. Trump became the target of a spying operation overseen by Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service in cooperation with the KGB.

Three years later Trump opened his first big property development, the Grand Hyatt New York hotel near Grand Central station. Trump bought 200 television sets for the hotel from Semyon Kislin, a Soviet émigré who co-owned Joy-Lud electronics on Fifth Avenue.

According to Shvets, Joy-Lud was controlled by the KGB and Kislin worked as a so-called “spotter agent” who identified Trump, a young businessman on the rise, as a potential asset. Kislin denies that he had a relationship with the KGB.

Continues…

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book




A moron fixated by fabric swatches.

Kid Berwyn

(21,227 posts)
8. One NAZI Gasbag Puffed Up Another
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 04:18 PM
Jun 6


How Rush Limbaugh Invented Donald Trump

By Isaac Chotiner
The New Yorker, February 19, 2021

EXCERPT…

As he got older and richer, he was fond of half-jokingly talking about his wealth and success. He boasted of “talent on loan from God,” and once stated, “I can’t even destroy myself. I’ve tried a couple times myself and it doesn’t work. I’m literally indestructible.” Like Trump, who enjoys informing audiences about his Ivy League education and telling them that he has better things to do than come to their rallies, Limbaugh relished the fact that those vaunted tax cuts he always talked up were going to people like himself.

An endless stream of articles and books over the past five years have wrestled with the question of how Trump was able to pull off his particular act, appealing to audiences that didn’t attend any college, let alone one in the Ivy League. Limbaugh’s success offers a clue. His radio program was home to Club for Growth bromides about the beauty of the private sector, but it also had another side, which consisted largely of bigotry. This was a man who featured a segment called “aids Updates,” in which he mockingly read the names of victims of the disease to the sounds of Dionne Warwick. He said that feminism was invented to “allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.” He uttered too many racist comments to count, but displayed a special hostility toward Barack Obama. “In Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the Black kids cheering,” he once said.

SNIP…

And yet, as much as Limbaugh was willing to lie to his audience about the details of Obamacare—he even claimed it would increase the divorce rate—he did seem to have a kernel of principle in his fealty to low taxes, less regulation, and free markets. Thus, Limbaugh could have viewed the rise of Trump in two ways. One would have been to say that here was someone who didn’t care at all about movement conservatism; who probably only dimly knew who William F. Buckley, Jr., was; who broke with right-wing orthodoxy on trade and tariffs; and who had no vision of capitalism beyond its usefulness in making him richer and more famous. The other way was to view Trump as someone who had the same catalogue of resentments as Limbaugh did, and—perhaps more importantly—was hated by the same people.

Limbaugh didn’t wait long before making his decision: he was all in. By early 2016, he was defending Trump daily, and, perhaps more significantly, striking the same rhetorical tones. “The Republican Party doesn’t like the Republican base,” he said, in January of that year, explaining that élitism was the establishment’s reason for opposing Trump. If Trump’s takeover of the G.O.P. revealed the degree to which cultural resentment mattered more to conservative voters than any single issue, Limbaugh’s journey served as an exemplar of this fact. When Trump took a stance that Limbaugh would have once objected to—such as imposing new tariffs—Limbaugh simply changed his opinion and backed Trump.

CONTINUES…

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/how-rush-limbaugh-invented-donald-trump

“A conservative is a man who is too cowardly to fight and too fat to run.” — Elbert Hubbard

WarGamer

(17,511 posts)
9. "for you"
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:06 PM
Jun 6

He was reminding Merz that it was German soldiers defending the beaches in France.


It's a pretty nasty comment because as we all know, the Germans are culturally sensitive and feel guilt still about the era.

Translation: It was a dick move by Trump.

Kid Berwyn

(21,227 posts)
12. Absolutely one-upmanship.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:28 PM
Jun 6

It's his life's calling.

Look how he treated Larry King in 1989 on live tee vee:



That's how NAZI turds get the edge.

Initech

(105,632 posts)
13. My grandfather was on the front lines of Normandy.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:28 PM
Jun 6

I'm sure if he were alive today, he'd have some thoughts.

Kid Berwyn

(21,227 posts)
14. We owe our freedom to him.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 05:35 PM
Jun 6

My Grandfather's best friend died leading a company through the hedgerow country, machine gunned by the NAZIs.



Captain Angel F. Espada, U.S. Army, Killed In Action 12 November 1944

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217954157

Nowadays they call him, "Athletic Director," a college professor of physical education.

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