This group that helped Harris lose is finding out the hard way

[B.See]

This group that helped Harris lose is finding out the hard way - Daily Kos

“It should come as no surprise that Trump’s racist travel ban overwhelmingly targets Black and brown people from countries in Africa, the Middle East, and the Caribbean," said Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib in a statement. "These policies are rooted in white nationalism and will only increase hate, xenophobia, and Islamophobia in our country."

Tlaib, notably, refused to endorse Democratic nominee Kamala Harris for president last year. And she wasn’t alone. 

In 2020, heavily Muslim Dearborn, Michigan, backed Joe Biden, giving him 69% of their vote. In 2024, only 36% of the city voted for Harris, while 42% backed Trump. Another 18% backed Green Party candidate Jill Stein. As Politico summarized in a headline, “Dearborn’s Arab Americans feel vindicated by Harris’ loss.”

Ah yes, sweet, sweet vindication. Weirdly, there aren’t many protests outside the White House. Where are the numerous rallies against “Killer Vance”? Where are the chants of “Genocide Don”? Curious, isn’t it?

Nothing further to add. Article says it all, I think

[magicarpet]

1. DEMOCRACY can backfire in your face - if you do not use it judiciously and wisely.

[creon]

3. FAFO

THose people will be taught the consequences of folly

[sheshe2]

13. I wish that were true.

However we are the ones that will pay for their folly. Many have already paid with their lives with the food he let rot in warehouses.

We are up next with the loss of our Democracy, creon.

[EdmondDantes_]

4. If you're going to be a single issue voter

It would make more sense if the person you're voting for would support your preferred position. I guess maybe they just stayed home but the change in percentages suggest it's not just people staying home. At least the anti-abortion people vote for anti-abortion candidates. I get being unhappy with the Biden administration's position, but it doesn't seem like they understood the options on the ballot.

[B.See]

6. I call it

being unable to see the forest for the trees.

[calimary]

8. Good one.

[JI7]

9. No , many said to vote for Trump

Because he was better for them on lgbt issues.

[LisaM]

10. What was Biden supposed to do?

It was an impossible situation. I don't like Netenyahu either, but abandoning Israel is just not an option.

As it turned out, Biden handled it a lot better than Trump. And I agree with the people who asked where are the protestors now, other than at a few universities (which maybe not so coincidentally are also in Trump's sights).

[EdmondDantes_]

16. I don't disagree

I don't think there were good options given where things stood after the Hamas attack. The choices made long before that led to path dependent outcomes.

I think he may have been able to draw a harder line to demonstrate that it was Netanyahu making the choice, but I don't think that would have helped much considering Israel's government and certainly not the magic wand it seems many protestors wanted. Soft power is much less immediate.

[RandomNumbers]

18. Many voted for Jill Stein.

This is why we need ranked choice voting, and for people to understand it.

To be clear, I have no idea what Stein's position is on Israel, but let's assume for argument's sake that it's to the anti-Israel side compared with either Harris or Trump. So, those people voted "for" the person who supported their preferred position - but in our system, someone who would not win - meaning their vote failed to HELP defeat someone who is arguably much worse for their position than the other major candidate.

It is unfortunate that many voters don't understand how our system works.

[SocialDemocrat61]

21. Stein voters hate democrats more than republicans

They never would vote for a democrat as second or third or fourth choice.

[SunSeeker]

5. K & R

[KT2000]

7. Many recent immigrants do not understand

the breadth of racism in this country. The president is supposed to hold up the laws against racism and I think the fact that this idiot does not, is a shock.
My friend has long experienced the rudeness from Americans but she is still surprised the whole government is in on it.

[betsuni]

11. Feelings and emotions: good pure righteous and you're never responsible for the consequences of your actions,

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that's always somebody else's fault.

No thinking. Thinking leads to more thinking and you might change your mind or compromise or do, like, incrementalism and then you'll be ideologically and morally corrupt and bad.

[betsuni]

12. No "Killer Vance" or "Genocide Don" because doesn't fit the Blame Democrats rule of Dems are the REAL warmongers.

Same as Obama being constantly accused of illegal surveillance, unilateral drone warfare, drones drones drones drones drones, he's-going-to-start-WWIII, drones drones drones, kill lists (I remember sometimes correcting misinformation about Obama, like mentioning that all attacks were NATO, not unilateral, and the reply, "Why don't you care about the innocent children at weddings killed by Obama's drones?" ).

Trump greatly expanded drone warfare and special forces attacks. Not a whisper.

Obviously only directed at Democrats.

[orangecrush]

14. Just stop.

[iemanja]

15. White people made Harris lose

According to AP, 61% of Muslims voted for Harris, while the great majority of white people voted for Trump. Meanwhile, white people like to blame people of color, the majority of whom voted for Harris. They should take a look in the mirror rather than blaming Democratic voting blocks, but that would require honesty. It also shows they see the role of people of color as to serve them.

Pretending Michigan is why we lost is not in keeping with reality. Democrats lost every single swing state, including those with very low Muslim populations.

[mjvpi]

17. I can't comprehend the calculus that would've led to anything other than a vote for Harris.

That being said, Biden’s Gaza policy was a self inflicted error. He could’ve supported Israel in the immediate wake of October 7. His .continued support, in light of war crimes committed by the IDF, violated international and US law. I’ll never know why he didn’t use US power to achieve concessions from both sides and bring the UN and Gulf States in as peace keepers. His decisions probably cost Harris the election and badly tarnished his legacy and the US’s global reputation. Personally, I can’t comprehend the human condition that has manifested in Gaza

[B.See]

19. Thank you. Nor can I. And citing the vote

of those white Trump supporters who voted FOR their own interests, in order to minimize the senselessness of minority Trump voters who voted AGAINST their own best interests, has always seemed a weak sort of rationale, imo.

[Cha]

20. Gee Ya Think!

Too bad ya all had to FAFO.. Fort he Rest of Us.

TY B.See