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JPK

(917 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 09:40 AM Jun 2025

Here's what I believe what this Cal/Nat Guard deployment is all about

It is a test run. Trump is looking for an excuse to declare martial law BEFORE the mid terms. He will do anything he can to provoke the people into some kind of confrontation. Then declare ML, activate the US military for deployment on US soil to arrest any citizens he feels is a threat to his rule. Once the troops are deployed he will suspend the mid term elections indefinitely. The spineless republicans in Congress will do nothing. The Democratic leaders in Congress will be arrested as enemies of the state.

However, controlling 330 million people that is armed to the teeth might prove to be a difficult tiger to subdue.

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Here's what I believe what this Cal/Nat Guard deployment is all about (Original Post) JPK Jun 2025 OP
Trump is doing this in CA, the biggest Liberal state because if he succeeds there, elocs Jun 2025 #1
the planners you are talking about are white christian nationalists Nigrum Cattus Jun 2025 #13
And our aristocrats, particularly the southern aristocrats have long been behind these "plans". KPN Jun 2025 #22
Trump and the Xcian Nat's JPK Jun 2025 #35
By "we" I guess you mean people who voted Republican. ananda Jun 2025 #18
There were those of us who saw this coming like a freight train in the night. hadEnuf Jun 2025 #27
It would be un-Constitutional for Trump to declare martial law. J_William_Ryan Jun 2025 #2
Your bdamomma Jun 2025 #3
Insurrection Act 1807 JPK Jun 2025 #6
Being paranoid, djt may also be testing his limits in LA because of his upcoming June 14 allegorical oracle Jun 2025 #11
Unless it's his minions doing the destroying. mwmisses4289 Jun 2025 #17
Ike and JFK both used it Kaleva Jun 2025 #26
You're comparing the violence of Jan 6th choie Jun 2025 #31
One man's demonstration is another man's riot. John Farmer Jun 2025 #36
Remember, he did say that COL Mustard Jun 2025 #20
He was literal. KPN Jun 2025 #23
Your analysis... GiqueCee Jun 2025 #4
I'm not sure... ShazzieB Jun 2025 #16
Let's not forget the Supremes didn't help Trump try in overturn the 2020 election Kaleva Jun 2025 #28
It's revisiting Portland from Trump 1.0. Hugin Jun 2025 #5
Yup, and like Portland, the rightwing are labeling it "insurrection" -- but J6 was just a bunch of enthusiastic tourists KPN Jun 2025 #24
Liberals are not armed to the teeth. But that can change. SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #7
Depends where they live. mwmisses4289 Jun 2025 #19
Unless they are organized, they won't last long Kaleva Jun 2025 #29
This old Liberal... GiqueCee Jun 2025 #33
Same SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #34
Remember when all of those people attacked the Capitol and the Natl Guard was called up? twodogsbarking Jun 2025 #8
Right, trump is a hypocritical Mtnmama Jun 2025 #12
Yes, that is what it looks like to me PatSeg Jun 2025 #9
Yes, they always "test" things first, but Nigrum Cattus Jun 2025 #10
Agreed 100% 👍 loquacious Jun 2025 #14
Target blue areas of swing districts and states to discourage voter turnout IronLionZion Jun 2025 #15
Trump definitely needs some kind of conflict to distract from his other problems, such as the tariffs Tranquil72 Jun 2025 #21
Trump Gives MAGAs CULTURE WARS INSTEAD OF LOWER PRICES McKim Jun 2025 #25
On plan and on schedule usonian Jun 2025 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jun 2025 #32
 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
1. Trump is doing this in CA, the biggest Liberal state because if he succeeds there,
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 09:50 AM
Jun 2025

the rest of the states will fall and midterms will be no problem.
None of this, all that Trump has been doing, has just happened but has been planned for years. If only we had been more vigilant and prepared rather than now reacting to his actions, but we saw Trump as an idiot and moron and not a real danger to our democracy. He may well be that but he is a useful tool for those who are really pulling the strings on ending our democracy. Let's hope that what has happened here will be a useful lesson for the other free nations of the world.

KPN

(17,116 posts)
22. And our aristocrats, particularly the southern aristocrats have long been behind these "plans".
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:13 PM
Jun 2025

JPK

(917 posts)
35. Trump and the Xcian Nat's
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 04:56 PM
Jun 2025

Trump is using them. If Lenard Leo thinks that he will control Trump once he secures what he wants, they are in just as much danger as the wokes LOL. I'm sure he will jail them and the whole staff of the Federalist Society as soon as they have worn out their usefulness.

ananda

(34,305 posts)
18. By "we" I guess you mean people who voted Republican.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:50 AM
Jun 2025

It certainly wasn't us or anybody who's remotely been
paying attention for the last 8 years.

hadEnuf

(3,511 posts)
27. There were those of us who saw this coming like a freight train in the night.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jun 2025

But we're often ridiculed and told to take the high road.


Just sayin'.

J_William_Ryan

(3,280 posts)
2. It would be un-Constitutional for Trump to declare martial law.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 09:51 AM
Jun 2025

Not that Trump cares about the Constitution, of course.

We’ll see if the military obeys Trump’s unlawful orders.

The states have the authority to conduct elections, not the Federal government.

JPK

(917 posts)
6. Insurrection Act 1807
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 10:30 AM
Jun 2025

Gives the president the authority. I would guess one man's riot, could be considered another man's insurrection. It is all a matter of viewpoint.

allegorical oracle

(6,135 posts)
11. Being paranoid, djt may also be testing his limits in LA because of his upcoming June 14
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:18 AM
Jun 2025

military parade.

Two things that he despises waay more than people being harmed are: a) disruption of any event that is honoring him (rallies, parades, inaugurations) and b) destruction of property -- he's obsessed with "buildings."

GiqueCee

(3,305 posts)
4. Your analysis...
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 09:59 AM
Jun 2025

... aligns closely with mine. The Sinister Six on the SCOTUS are all in on the side of the treasonous fascists, so they're not to be trusted now, if they ever were.
If Trump was actually human, he would endeavor to avoid harming civilians exercising their Constitutional right to peaceful assembly, but one of the main reasons for this escalation is to satisfy his innate bloodlust. That is, as long as he can watch it onTV; by his own admission, he hates the sight of blood in real life. Another factor is his insatiable craving for absolute dominion over the lives of others. He loves to humiliate people, even those who willingly submit to his malicious control.
This is not going to end well. That he is, for all intents and purposes, historically illiterate, means that he has not benefitted from the lessons that Mussolini had to learn the hard way: Tyrants ALWAYS end up losers, SUCKAH!

ShazzieB

(22,148 posts)
16. I'm not sure...
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:46 AM
Jun 2025
The Sinister Six on the SCOTUS are all in on the side of the treasonous fascists, so they're not to be trusted now, if they ever were.

We certainly can't count on SCOTUS to do the right thing, but I'm not convinced all 6 conservatives are all in with him 100% these days. Thomas and Alito? Absolutely. But there have been some surprising 7/2 verdicts, in cases where he's done such wildly unconscionable things that only the Treacherous Two (or should I say the Gruesome Twosome) were willing to rule in his favor.

I'm NOT holding my breath, but I'm not giving up hope yet, either.

Hugin

(37,316 posts)
5. It's revisiting Portland from Trump 1.0.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 10:16 AM
Jun 2025

A made for Fox TV confrontation. Just like the “assassination attempt”, damn the collateral damage.

KPN

(17,116 posts)
24. Yup, and like Portland, the rightwing are labeling it "insurrection" -- but J6 was just a bunch of enthusiastic tourists
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jun 2025

visiting our Capitol.

mwmisses4289

(3,092 posts)
19. Depends where they live.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:55 AM
Jun 2025

They may not be in your face about it, but plenty of liberals in my red state are armed and know how to use their weapons. A lot of magas may find themselves shocked when they find not all "them dam libruls" are unwilling to defend what they hold dear and believe in.

Kaleva

(40,130 posts)
29. Unless they are organized, they won't last long
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:55 PM
Jun 2025

History shows that lone wolfs have a short life span

GiqueCee

(3,305 posts)
33. This old Liberal...
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 01:54 PM
Jun 2025

... is not "armed to the teeth" at the moment, but I know my way around firearms, and I'm still an expert marksman. I hope no one has to find that out the hard way, but things are getting WAY too ugly, WAY too fast.
Trump and his bald psycho-buddy, Miller, have already demonstrated just how evil they can be, and they haven't even hit 3rd gear yet.
Watch your six; these fuckers mean business. They know that if they lose, it's all over for them, so they won't hesitate to burn it all to the ground so they can die on a hill of ashes, rather than leave us anything to rebuild. And don't kid yourself; they ARE that evil.

twodogsbarking

(17,476 posts)
8. Remember when all of those people attacked the Capitol and the Natl Guard was called up?
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:03 AM
Jun 2025

Me neither.

Mtnmama

(128 posts)
12. Right, trump is a hypocritical
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:18 AM
Jun 2025

COWARD who, according to Miles Taylor, has "magical powers", i.e , deploying the military, the same military he wouldn't serve in because of bone spurs, to "protect" him, keep him in power against the people's will.

PatSeg

(51,966 posts)
9. Yes, that is what it looks like to me
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:06 AM
Jun 2025

I figured it was only a matter of time before he found an excuse to call up the National Guard and then use violence as a reason to declare martial law. If protests are basically peaceful, he will hire instigators to provoke violence. It is in his playbook, the same one all dictators use to gain power.

Nigrum Cattus

(1,195 posts)
10. Yes, they always "test" things first, but
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:17 AM
Jun 2025

we are testing things as well. Our responses
and tactics are evolving too. Presume some-kind
of cyber battle soon.

loquacious

(6 posts)
14. Agreed 100% 👍
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jun 2025

It's just another example of how desperate Mango Mussolini is to stay in the White House so they won't send him to the big house 🤬

IronLionZion

(50,728 posts)
15. Target blue areas of swing districts and states to discourage voter turnout
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jun 2025

Unless enough GOP voters turn against him to make a difference

Tranquil72

(21 posts)
21. Trump definitely needs some kind of conflict to distract from his other problems, such as the tariffs
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:06 PM
Jun 2025

And that silly Bill. But I think it would be wrong of us to to view his decisions as part of anything resembling a formal plan. His pattern is to make things up as he goes along, and sometimes that works and others, it simply makes a mess. But I believe that he feels if he can just get the public thinking and focusing on what’s happening in LA rather than in DC, it’s to his benefit, personally and politically.

McKim

(2,426 posts)
25. Trump Gives MAGAs CULTURE WARS INSTEAD OF LOWER PRICES
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jun 2025

Since Trump will not lower prices or support a stable economy, he can give them dramatic culture wars events like this one. So look for more drama and less financial help for his supporters..

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