I agree with Newsom: we can't give them the excuse they are looking for

[senseandsensibility]

Governor Newsom today: "The federal government is taking over the California National Guard and deploying 2,000 soldiers in Los Angeles--not because there is a shortage of law enforcement, but because they want a spectacle. Don't give them one. Never use violence. Speak out peacefully."

With the willing and gleeful help of the corporate media, this administration will turn any hint of violence into a full on campaign against "lawless Democrats and immigrants". Fair? ABSOLUTELY NOT. But they are itching for this fight.

I hope community leaders and immigration advocates in LA work with the protestors to encourage peaceful protest ONLY.

[red dog 1]

1. I agree with Newsom.

[senseandsensibility]

3. I don't envy Newsom

that's for sure. But I think his statement was pitch perfect.

[StarryNite]

2. Absolutely

[Qutzupalotl]

4. I may be an optimist

but I don't see CA National Guardspeople firing on civilians …. ever, even if they are federalized. These are people from the community. They might know some of the protestors, or be a little sympathetic.

[angrychair]

21. Military always support fascism

And fascists. Never bet on the military doing the right thing because they won't.

[Klarkashton]

5. They don't care about an excuses. Those goons

Were there in advance kitted up to the max like they were in Afghanistan. They intentionally escalated the whole thing. This wasn't impromptu.

[ShazzieB]

18. They're kitted up however their commanders ordered them to be kitted up.

I don't think that necessarily indicates anything one way or another about their desire to open fire on civilians.

I would hope that there wouldn't be many CA National Guardsmen who are eager to take part in the next Kent State massacre. Unless people really have forgotten about how awful that was, in which case, God help us all.

[calimary]

6. YES!!! They want a spectacle.

Cuz it plays well (to reinforce the “story” they want told) on TV.

[ificandream]

7. Newsom nailed it.

Trump has been itching to do something to California. Good to see Newsom speaking out and not staying silent.

[OG MoneyClips]

8. That ship has sailed

I am monitoring Los Angeles media and KTLA reports that there has already been violence on the streets of Paramount and Compton. This is all Cheeto Mussolini needs to order martial law. The goal here, IMHO, is to cancel next year’s elections and consolidate dictatorial power to himself. Heck. I wouldn’t be surprised if he abolishes Congress and the Courts too.

[senseandsensibility]

11. What kind of violence exactly?

More details please. The LAPD released a report yesterday calling the protests "peaceful."

[Bev54]

17. The only violence is the Trump thugs tear gassing peaceful protestors

[GiqueCee]

9. And keep an eye out...

... for right-wing infiltrators deliberately starting trouble, because I guaran-fuckin'-tee you, they WILL be there. Establish a hot line to report them in real time so they can be exposed and neutralized.

[Beartracks]

12. You know they will simply because they accuse liberals of doing that. n/t

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. lol they don't need an excuse!

[bronxiteforever]

13. Watch the markets.

Plus the coming bond sales. Any internal violence will knock the economy off its pins. The GOP owns all the branches and the economy. An economic downturn will be fatal for the party in power. Americans may not care about their history and their democracy but they do very very much care about their money.

[wendyb-NC]

14. Absolutely

Peaceful non-violent assemblies, only.

[AntiFascist]

15. Newsom has incredible power under the US Constitution, when and if the time ever should come to use it n/t

[intrepidity]

31. Can you elaborate, please? TIA. nt

[AntiFascist]

38. Under the 2nd Amendment...

although this power has never been used in this way before, it is pretty clearly spelled out: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State", where 'State' is referring to a US State.

The framers of the Constitution had incredible foresight in predicting a time when a Federal government might infringe on the rights of the citizens of a State, as was debated in the Federalist Paper No 46:

Either the mode in which the federal government is to be constructed will render it sufficiently dependent on the people, or it will not. On the first supposition, it will be restrained by that dependence from forming schemes obnoxious to their constituents. On the other supposition, it will not possess the confidence of the people, and its schemes of usurpation will be easily defeated by the State governments, who will be supported by the people.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed46.asp

[Blue Full Moon]

16. Be a good German how about no.

[Ponietz]

22. You think peaceful protest is "being a good German"?

What do you think protesters should do?

[Arazi]

19. ICE and DHS started the violence. Any crowd reaction is on the aggressors

Not sure why Newsom believes citizens should passively allow themselves to just get run over (literally), or gassed, or shot with non-lethal rounds (that can kill people) without provoking a reaction.

There were maybe 100 protesters in Paramount from every video I saw and none of them started the violence.

Reacted to ICE/DHS violence? Yup. Started shit? Nope.

[Clouds Passing]

20. No violence? Then the notsees will send in the provocateurs.

[LoisB]

23. The violence seems to be coming from the "government" side. How many of these so-called

ICE agents are really civilian Proud Boys?

[AllaN01Bear]

26. frie nd of mine in leo thinks so

[democrank]

24. Peaceful resistance

They’re looking for an excuse to push their weight around. Don’t give them a reason to do so.

[AllaN01Bear]

25. ding. this

[angrychair]

27. Yep, let's be good little bootlickers

And do as we are told and never make a fuss as the nazis smash windows and jerk people out of cars and pewpew people or beat them senseless.
Respect their authority. Do as you are told!

[Javaman]

28. Newtons failure is he actually believes

The orange asshole needs an excuse.

The orange ignoramus already has the “ excuse” he needs. He just says so

When you try to rationalize with a narcissist, you lose

[IronLionZion]

29. Of course they go into a blue city in a blue state

That's what they want for their spectacle. They want to escalate conflict with protestors.

[senseandsensibility]

39. I agree

but I heard a reporter say that the area (Paramount) of LA with the protests yesterday is eighty percent Hispanic. That would not surprise me at all. Hispanics are the majority or on the verge of the majority in many places in CA. So in a way, it should surprise no one that this is where the protests are.

[IronLionZion]

40. Plenty of Hispanic majority neighborhoods in Texas, Florida, Arizona

they wanted to do this in California because it's a blue state with a Dem governor eyeing the presidency.

GOP used the George Floyd protests against Tim Walz in last year's campaign. They want to promote a story of violence raging out of control across areas that elected Democrats.

[stillcool]

30. got to be a plan to protect each other

that's the problem with protests born out of instantaneous rage. The way the gestapo/police handle it only enrages the crowd more, making it more volatile. They pick up whatever they can and toss it. There is no talk of calming down. All rage.

[Torchlight]

32. I fully expect ICE to mask up and instigate a series of violent acts

I also think that's all the excuse they'll need, regardless of the peaceful agenda of their opposition. Simply wearing a mask, carrying a badge, and strapped up with heavy firepower is more an axcuse than they'll ever need.

[highplainsdem]

33. Tom Nichols has been saying this on Bluesky, too.

[senseandsensibility]

34. Glad to hear it!

It's common sense I think.

[highplainsdem]

35. I agree. But he was unfortunately getting a lot of arguments from people who believe violent clashes

are helpful.

[efhmc]

36. This is not going to go away, Am in the middle of Texas with no rocks but an easy drive away from lots.

[markie]

37. easy to say/suggest

anger and passion are pretty powerful things and take over... the sense of helplessness is overwhelmimg!

[Dan]

41. They really don't need an excuse.

If and when Trump (and his enablers) decide to do what they are planning to do, they don’t need an excuse. Just a compliant Congress and a passive Nation.

[mike_c]

42. they will get it one way or another

We're already past that point. It's almost always the cops who instigate violence.