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senseandsensibility

(22,364 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 03:33 PM 22 hrs ago

Hakeem laying it out there just now!

Last edited Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:33 PM - Edit history (1)

He posted on bluesky a few seconds ago:

"Donald Trump incited a violent mob to attack the Capitol. Hundreds of dangerous felons who brutally beat police officers with impunity were then pardoned by the President on his first day in office. Don't ever lecture America about law and order."

I'm starting to think that the problem is not messaging per se. It's the lack of cohesion and unity. There is nothing wrong with Leader Jeffrie's message above. But the failure of ALL Dems on their social media accounts and when they are interviewed on TV not to pick it up verbatim and repeat it as one voice is a weakness. I realize that everyone has their own "spin" and ideas about the situation, but in this media environment the Dems need ONE message coming from all voices with a platform.

And since Jeffries is the leader, I say let him lead on the messaging. His statement above is good but needs to be heard everywhere.

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Hakeem laying it out there just now! (Original Post) senseandsensibility 22 hrs ago OP
I agree but I also know Jeffries is trying to herd cats in one sense. We are Democrats. we have functioning brains. CTyankee 22 hrs ago #1
Herding Cats? 3825-87867 20 hrs ago #15
I don't like people with mean streaks like Dump. They beat up on people less fortunate, the poor and the non white. and CTyankee 18 hrs ago #21
Excellent! calimary 22 hrs ago #2
I hope everyone is following Jeffries on bluesky senseandsensibility 22 hrs ago #3
I don't know if the Dems have a messaging problem - werdna 22 hrs ago #4
Yes, it is definitely an unfair playing field senseandsensibility 22 hrs ago #5
Kick SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #6
Thanks, SheltieLover! senseandsensibility 21 hrs ago #8
What you're describing IS messaging. Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #7
Well, I mean it's not that the "head" of the party can't message senseandsensibility 21 hrs ago #9
Yes. That's messaging. That coordination Scrivener7 21 hrs ago #10
Well I did say about the same thing in my OP senseandsensibility 21 hrs ago #11
I like Jeffries, but this message is not strong enough. 'Lecturing' America is a small, mild portion of wiggs 21 hrs ago #12
Think there won't be some Rittenhouses out there? Or some version that doesn't shoot people but wiggs 20 hrs ago #13
I agree Figarosmom 20 hrs ago #14
The GOP talking points get amplified Dem4life1970 20 hrs ago #16
Oops! senseandsensibility 19 hrs ago #18
Repetition ... Repetition ... Repetition speak easy 20 hrs ago #17
Mahalo, Leader Hakem Jeffries! Cha 19 hrs ago #19
Herding casts plus a serious lack of "fire in the belly" paleotn 19 hrs ago #20
K&R spanone 18 hrs ago #22

CTyankee

(66,328 posts)
1. I agree but I also know Jeffries is trying to herd cats in one sense. We are Democrats. we have functioning brains.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 03:38 PM
22 hrs ago

And we are smart. Surely we can get to that ONE BIG message.

Jeffries is such a great guy. I really like him!

3825-87867

(1,423 posts)
15. Herding Cats?
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:52 PM
20 hrs ago

Next we'll wonder where the sternly worded letters are, eh, Chuck?.
It's way past time to have individual bitches. It's way way past time to get together and discuss with any republicans. Hopefully, there'll be time for that later., but I doubt any republican cares right now or will then. Right now, I want every damn Democrat opening their mouth and forget about their "donors". Because if this goes much farther, the donors won't matter. Hell, they and our "reps" may even have to find some other line of "work" that pays as poorly as those of us in the general public are used to!

CTyankee

(66,328 posts)
21. I don't like people with mean streaks like Dump. They beat up on people less fortunate, the poor and the non white. and
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 07:59 PM
18 hrs ago

women. We can be real bitches without hurting people less fortunate and those who need help.

calimary

(86,572 posts)
2. Excellent!
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 03:39 PM
22 hrs ago

"Donald Trump incited a violent mob to attack the Capitol. Hundreds of dangerous felons who brutally beat police officers with impunity were then pardoned by the President on his first day in office. Don't ever lecture America about law and order."

Glad SOMEBODY is speaking out! MORE, PLEASE!!!

senseandsensibility

(22,364 posts)
3. I hope everyone is following Jeffries on bluesky
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 03:44 PM
22 hrs ago

He makes many good statements on that platform that don't seem to make their way to more "mainstream" media. He could use some back up!

werdna

(1,050 posts)
4. I don't know if the Dems have a messaging problem -
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 03:51 PM
22 hrs ago

- as in not having a good, appealing message. I do know when the MSM is all owned by the m/billionaire class that the Dems cannot get their message to the swing voters and middle class viewers of the MSM.
So instead of putting the message out and having the MSM broadcast it, they have to try and coordinate their message to umpteen lesser viewed outlets, and hope the message can get through to the swing voters and middle class.

senseandsensibility

(22,364 posts)
5. Yes, it is definitely an unfair playing field
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 03:54 PM
22 hrs ago

to put it mildly. But it is what it is. Cohesion of messaging and repetition is one way to fight that.

Scrivener7

(55,951 posts)
7. What you're describing IS messaging.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 04:39 PM
21 hrs ago
failure of ALL Dems on their social media accounts and when they are interviewed on TV not to pick it up verbatim and repeat it as one voice is a weakness.


That IS messaging. That's part of the failure of messaging.

senseandsensibility

(22,364 posts)
9. Well, I mean it's not that the "head" of the party can't message
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 04:42 PM
21 hrs ago

effectively. It's that the rest of the party doesn't unite behind the message. I have no idea if Jeffries has asked them to, but I think at this point they should be able to figure it out.

Scrivener7

(55,951 posts)
10. Yes. That's messaging. That coordination
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 04:46 PM
21 hrs ago

of effort that gets the cohesive message spread as far as possible. When a republican leader says something, EVERY other one of them picks it up and repeats it word for word. That MUST come from
some internal program. We clearly have no such internal program.

wiggs

(8,246 posts)
12. I like Jeffries, but this message is not strong enough. 'Lecturing' America is a small, mild portion of
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:29 PM
21 hrs ago

what's going on and referencing an event 4 years ago is nothing new..

A disordered, sociopathic, small man is taking action to unleash the might of US military on citizens under the guise of insurrection. One party is allowing an insane, unprecedented power grab across all departments of the federal govt, resulting in chaos and reductions in health, safety, global influence, security, education, economic stability, and preparedness. They are grabbing people off the street. They are fabricating investigations and indictments. They are on the verge of martial law, or worse. This is not about keeping the peace.

We don't have benevolent elected official...far from it. The opposite. That's the context of this LA event.

Let's see the followup message and action. Not just from Jeffries...

wiggs

(8,246 posts)
13. Think there won't be some Rittenhouses out there? Or some version that doesn't shoot people but
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:35 PM
20 hrs ago

throws the first rock to create conflict?

Cultists want to serve.

Figarosmom

(6,122 posts)
14. I agree
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:51 PM
20 hrs ago

Since Bush the republicans put out daily talking points and STAY ON MESSAGE.

I don't know why Dems haven't done this. They do know it works because they complain incessantly about it. So use it .

For years ( now decades) I've been yelling at Dems and their lack of messaging as one voice.

Dem4life1970

(899 posts)
16. The GOP talking points get amplified
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:12 PM
20 hrs ago

because their corporate paymasters make it happen. On our side we have to fight uphill.
It's not just a messaging problem, it's who owns the messaging machine.

We don't engage in gaslighting and 1984 tactics. That's all they have and Orange Julius Caesar is the ringmaster of their constant circus.

I love this quote by (soon to be Speaker) Jeffries!

speak easy

(11,643 posts)
17. Repetition ... Repetition ... Repetition
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:15 PM
20 hrs ago

Repetition is the key to messaging.

Like in a campaign, when you are sick and tired of saying the same thing over and over, some people are hearing it for the first time or just starting to get on board.

Harkeem Jeffries shoould include somethiing roughly the same in each interview. It's a good message, but once is not enough.

Trump has no credibility on law and order.
Trump has no credibility on law and order.
Trump has no credibility on law and order.

A way to begin each interview. My 2c.

paleotn

(20,451 posts)
20. Herding casts plus a serious lack of "fire in the belly"
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:49 PM
19 hrs ago

That later part. Bernie has it. Jeffries sometimes has it. But that seems to be generally frowned upon by most Dems and I don't know why. We use to be passionate as hell but lost it somewhere. It's time to get it back and stop sounding like a bunch of goddamn professors. Though that may appeal to me as I'm 100% policy driven and don't give two shits about emotion, that's not how to reach the masses. The best policy ideas on earth won't suffice without desire, passion and determination.

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