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Jilly_in_VA

(12,060 posts)
1. Who was it said
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:29 PM
20 hrs ago

"If they mean to have a war, let it begin here'? I think someone is itching for one, and it ain't me.

taxi

(2,310 posts)
5. Captain John Parker says it was Company Sergeant William Munroe,
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:48 PM
20 hrs ago

but if they don't really know, do they?
Here's some fuzzy history with a nice picture too.

“…and if they mean to have a war, let it begin here” ?? —The Real Words of Captain John Parker

Located today on the Lexington green is a monument to the minutemen who stood on the green on the morning of April 19, 1775. On the monument is inscribed words attributed to the minuteman commander Captain John Parker – “Stand your ground, don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.” But did Parker really say these words?
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Located today on the Lexington green is a monument to the minutemen who stood on the green on the morning of April 19, 1775. On the monument is inscribed words attributed to the minuteman commander Captain John Parker – “Stand your ground, don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.” But did Parker really say these words?

https://emergingcivilwar.com/2015/02/18/and-if-they-mean-to-have-a-war-let-it-begin-here-the-real-words-of-captain-john-parker/

Jack Valentino

(2,233 posts)
13. Those few 'minutemen' should not have been standing there on Lexington Green at ALL...
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 10:54 PM
15 hrs ago

They had absolutely no hope of stopping the force that the British had mounted---
they SHOULD have all been on their way to Concord, to help hide and protect the arms stored there...

Why they weren't is somewhat of a mystery now--
except maybe responding to the impetus to try to protect their own homes and loved ones....
Almost all the militia from other towns headed to Concord...





taxi

(2,310 posts)
15. Media darlings even then. Quelle surprise
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:03 AM
8 hrs ago

I agree without exception, failure to be at appointed place of duty. It goes to show that those who run to the front of stone age parades have their names carved in stone.

DENVERPOPS

(12,508 posts)
11. All these MAGA cops and soldiers
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 08:27 PM
17 hrs ago

have been all dressed up, with nowhere to go for four long years............They can hardly wait to be told to go for it by Trump and his CABAL.....

I vote for taking all these MAGAots that love to play dress up in battle gear with their assault weapons, being put on planes and air dropped into a war zone..............Let's see how tough they are when they face a group that shoots back..........rather than un-armed, helpless, peaceful demonstrators.......

magicarpet

(18,417 posts)
2. Like Fallujah, Iraq,.... the Gestapo has landed on our shores.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:32 PM
20 hrs ago

Some are so proud that djt has embraced Fascism and will gleefully bring it to our streets. His private goon squad is willing, ready, and able to follow Team trDUMP's marching orders.

USA,.. USA,... USA.
God Bless MAGA's AmeriKKKa.



taxi

(2,310 posts)
3. The imagery is there.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:40 PM
20 hrs ago

Pick a place, search for 'photo [place]', eg, 'photo aleppo', 'photo fallujah'. Soon to be 'photo LA' will be no different.

magicarpet

(18,417 posts)
8. Even Eric Prince has been kicking down djt's door trying desperately to get a piece of the immigration,..
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:01 PM
20 hrs ago

.... crackdown action ($$$$$) Team trDUMP wants up and running - fucking yesterday not next week.

Djt has a goal he wants desperately to beat. Between 2009 to 2017 Obama deported over 5 million aliens back to where they came from. The Tangerine Traitor is adamant to beat Obama's total deportations. The deranged djt will not take a back seat to Obama in any way, shape, or form. This is the cause of all this urgency to deport - to show the world trDUMP is a far more effective presidunce than Obama could ever hope to be, [as if].

taxi

(2,310 posts)
10. They will never be satisfied. Here are some numbers from the recent House Bill
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:26 PM
19 hrs ago

What is not mentioned is what you mention above - additional government funds being paid to Prince. This is bound to end up like tsarist Russia.

Under the House Judiciary bill, ICE would be given $45 billion to spend on detention through September 30, 2029. This would be a staggering 365% increase on an annual basis over ICE’s current $3.4 billion detention budget, putting ICE’s annual detention budget at $12.4 billion. By contrast, the federal Bureau of Prisons currently has a budget of $8.3 billion, meaning that Congress could give ICE a budget for detention that is nearly 50% larger than the entire federal prison system.

The budget would also provide ICE $14.4 billion for transportation and removal operations, an astronomic 500% annual increase from the current $721 million provided in the current budget. Along with this funding would come eight billion dollars to hire 10,000 new ICE officers over the next five years, as well as $858 million for retention and signing bonuses and $600 million to hire sufficient human resources personnel to carry out that level of mass hiring.

At the same time as Congress seeks to ramp up detention, arrests, and removals, it would give a measly 30% increase to the immigration court budget. This raises the serious possibility that ICE would build detention centers faster than judges could come on board to reduce backlogs. As a result, people would be held in detention for longer periods of time without any hearings, as the courts could not keep up with the rapid growth of the enforcement system.

https://immigrationimpact.com/2025/05/05/house-reconciliation-bill/

misanthrope

(8,833 posts)
4. I've seen similar on American streets throughout my life
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:45 PM
20 hrs ago

And in Southern California, too. But I was born just over 60 years ago.

I think the Rubicon is when the military begin using live rounds on protestors with little provocation.

Javaman

(64,006 posts)
6. I agree and it's just a matter of time
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:50 PM
20 hrs ago

Someone in the maga bunch of NG will claim they were shot at… and the rest, as the saying goes, will be history

Zorro

(17,512 posts)
7. The entire Republican Party crossed the Rubicon
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:56 PM
20 hrs ago

and embraced fascism some time ago, and Trump is their agent to destroy American democracy.

They plan to rule, not to govern.

PufPuf23

(9,425 posts)
9. GOP stole the 2000 election and here we are now.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 06:14 PM
20 hrs ago

Don't believe the other elections were stolen except indirectly like biased MSM propaganda and voting accessibility.

Heidi

(58,260 posts)
16. That he'll follow this up with a self-congratulatory
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 06:15 AM
8 hrs ago

military parade makes me wonder when they’ll announce the official coronation date. and re-

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