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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew message from Gov. Newsom: he has formally requested the Trump
administration rescind their "unlawful deployment" of troops in Los Angeles and "return them to my command."
From Kyle Griffin on bluesky.

bucolic_frolic
(50,722 posts)The American public will see this for what it is: orchestrated overkill. An attempt to get out in front of No Kings Day with a Portland-style staged display of power.
AllaN01Bear
(25,497 posts)EndlessWire
(7,855 posts)I saw one of his interviews, and he is obsessed with Gavin Newsom. He didn't say anything much about rioters. He's focused on getting Newsom.
1. Nobody attends the "birthday" parade. Nobody.
2. No Kings Day happens everywhere.
3. We are going to have to initiate General Strike days, where nobody works or does anything. Except, emergency services.
Nothing he does here will be something he can be held accountable for, thanks to the Roberts Court. I still think we should go after his golf course. Don't know how, but we should eliminate it for him.
I feel really blue today, in more ways than one.
Montauk6
(9,130 posts)the biggest informercial grift since the Golden Age of Tom Vu and Don LePre.
Evolve Dammit
(20,748 posts)Clouds Passing
(5,060 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,037 posts)DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,378 posts)He is no longer in command over them. That changed as soon as the Federal call up happened. This will have to get taken to court to order invalidate the call up.
MadameButterfly
(3,037 posts)In any case you can't have it be unclear.
The courts must decide, and it will determine whether Trump can take over all the National Guards or whether these are forces that belong to the states. Trump doesn't want the Governors to have any force available to them if he starts doing even crazier stuff.
OldBaldy1701E
(8,000 posts)Then, we are boned for sure.
Klarkashton
(3,451 posts)senseandsensibility
(22,364 posts)I now see a chyron on MSNBC quoting Newsom as saying that California did not have a problem until trump got involved. He's keeping it simple and going on the offense.
Magoo48
(6,357 posts)He will find all the resistance he wants here. If he doesnt find it, he will create it just so he can punish our state.
In my not so humble opinion, I think we should drive the fucker crazy with every opportunity which arises.
Klarkashton
(3,451 posts)Fruit in LA for a big win. They have no funding idea about Los Angelinos. No fucking clue.
Amaryllis
(10,415 posts)the judiciary is the remedy here.
WarGamer
(17,239 posts)Wheeler or someone?
chowder66
(10,660 posts)Read the entire text of Newsoms letter below:
Dear Secretary Hegseth:
On June 7, 2025, President Trump issued a memorandum to your office entitled Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions. The memorandum purports to invoke 10 U.S.C. § 12406 to call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard . . . to temporarily protect ICE and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions, including the enforcement of Federal law, and to protect Federal property. The memorandum further directs actions as necessary for the Secretary of Defense to coordinate with the Governors of the States and the National Guard Bureau in identifying and ordering into Federal service the appropriate members and units of the National Guard under this authority.
Section 12406 states that the President may call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard of any State in such numbers as he considers necessary to (1) repel an invasion of the United States by a foreign nation; (2) suppress a rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States; or (3) execute the laws of the United States when the President is unable to do so with regular forces. Section 12406 further states that [o]rders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States.
.......
Last night, the Adjutant General of California received a memorandum from your office with the subject line Calling Members of the California National Guard into Federal Service, which states that [t]wo thousand members of the California National Guard will be called into Federal service effective immediately for a period of 60 days. Notably, this directive did not issue through the governor[] of the State[] as required by section 12406; the Department of Defense did not transmit this directive to the Office of the Governor, nor was it approved or ordered by the Governor of California. This directive is also inconsistent with the Presidents memorandum, which anticipates coordinat[ion] with the Governors of the States in identifying and ordering units of the National Guard into federal service.
more......
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/gavin-newsom-demands-trump-remove-232539960.html
Captain Zero
(7,933 posts)He should have told Trump he couldn't accept the orders if they did not come from/through the Governor of California. Newsome should dismiss the Adjt. General.
chowder66
(10,660 posts)That doesn't mean it was right or legal however. Unfortunately that has to be dealt with after the fact.
The letter starts that process so I don't think the General will be dismissed.... due to the chain of command. This is one of those gray areas that Trump is so good at exploiting.
We will have to see what happens.
Cosmocat
(15,182 posts)Seen it coming and had their solicitor figure out how to cut it off when they tried to pull it.
chowder66
(10,660 posts)Not that it wouldn't have escalated anyway but I suspect we will learn more over time.
I'm not a lawyer so I don't know but they have lawyers that probably do.
vanlassie
(5,967 posts)game- played this all year?
MadameButterfly
(3,037 posts)There has to be a problem before they can litigate it. We don't know if there are lawyers who have been working on this, just as the AGs of many states were preparing cases against Trump even before he took office.
Kingofalldems
(39,623 posts)chowder66
(10,660 posts)senseandsensibility
(22,364 posts)Not surprising of course.
chowder66
(10,660 posts)Figarosmom
(6,122 posts)To order them out?
senseandsensibility
(22,364 posts)You have to ask formally and in writing to start the process, I assume.
BigmanPigman
(53,114 posts)Newsom needed to do this first in order to be able to sue tRump. It's a process. Newsom knows what he is doing.
Renew Deal
(84,035 posts)Lawyer written statements from multiple California government officials. My guess is that those were made for when the investigations happen
Initech
(105,120 posts)
MadameButterfly
(3,037 posts)This is just the next step in his plan. I'm guessing he thought it would be easier to do
EndlessWire
(7,855 posts)He doesn't have a clue. He hates Cali, and thinks he can just do this with impunity.
BurnDoubt
(597 posts)Mr.Bee
(784 posts)This is our state, not his!
Tell him to go shout at New York!
MadameButterfly
(3,037 posts)He'll go after NY too, count on it
Mr.Bee
(784 posts)zorbasd
(417 posts)Agent Krasnov, aka TACO BOI, could care f#cking less what and how you say it, he wants the perception and creative narrative, that he is kicking your ass in a power trip authoritarian brow beating of you, and succeeding.
Take control of your CA National Gaurd with your authority! His takeover is illegal, and thus lawless. Take control by your legal and constitutional right and decree.
GROW A PAIR!.....JFC!
MadameButterfly
(3,037 posts)Laying the groundwork to win
BannonsLiver
(19,226 posts)
kentuck
(113,921 posts)We will see just how much they believe in "states rights"?
BigmanPigman
(53,114 posts)AllyCat
(17,946 posts)RW cozy upping. Time to turn this completely around governor.
MoseShrute
(65 posts)It wasnt very long ago when kristy noem (sp?) as governor got on tv and railed about President Biden threatening to deploy the National Guard in texas to prevent razor wire from being placed in the Rio Grande. She said that would be stomping all over texass states rights. Wheres that plastic-filled platypus now?