Protestors, please heed and promote this guidance

[pat_k]

Facebook post from Shannon Coleen re-posted by Jimmy Kimmel Live

🗣️ 🪧 “… From this moment forward, at every protest, we must do the following:

ℹ️ The moment violence or property damage begins, EVERY OTHER PROTESTER must immediately sit on the floor or the ground in silence, with signs down.

📷 The media (or a someone) needs to film this. This will reveal paid fake thugs posing as protesters becoming violent.

❤️The sitting down must spread like a "wave" in a football stadium throughout the crowd of protesters.

‼️Local police officers will immediately see WHO is doing the damage, and the rest of us will demonstrate our non-violent innocence and retain our ➡️Constitutional right ⬅️ to peaceful protest.

💯Retweet, repost, and shout it from the rooftops at every protest you attend!

#Gandhi #passiveresistance #pacifists #NoViolenceAllowed #PeacefulProtestOnly

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. This is terrible advice.

Sitting down when shit goes sideways and relying on the cops to "do the right thing" is a fool's game. What happens if the cops start the violence?

[pat_k]

4. There are other resources for more detailed guidance.

But I believe this is excellent advice when participants (or infiltrators) attempt to instigate violence.

NO KINGS de-escalation training calls were held June 4 and earlier today (which I also promoted in earlier posts).

See also deescalation resources compiled by Hands Off organizers here.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. Pointing out people for cops to bash is not deescalation.

[pat_k]

9. ??? You don't appear to have reviewed the resources.

See also:

Non-Violent protest is more effective in effecting change
The Harvard Gazette
Nonviolent resistance proves potent weapon
Michelle Nicholasen
February 4, 2019
9 min read

Erica Chenoweth discovers it is more successful in effecting change than violent campaigns

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/why-nonviolent-resistance-beats-violent-force-in-effecting-social-political-change/

[RoeVWade]

15. I think you're getting police brutality events mixed up with national politics.

LA Police may be involved, but this is Trumpian. Creating a shitstorm against LA police is misguided. Or at least you should reconsider whatever your real overall goal is.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

17. "This is Trumpian." What is Trumpian?

The only people creating shitstorms are ICE by invading communities, and the authorities that protect and assist them.

[RoeVWade]

19. Sure, and you can fight criminals and ignore their crime boss also.

Kill some ants and ignore the ant queen and anthill they come from.

etc.

Do whatever you want though.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

21. Both ICE and the cops were bullies and thugs before Trump ever came along

[Tarzanrock]

2. Sometimes, you just have to throw chests of tea into the water.

This isn't India and I'm not Gandhi. Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God.

[Skittles]

3. sitting down for fascism

FUCK that

[pat_k]

13. What do you recommend? Joining in self-defeating acts of violence?

Violent protest is NOT EFFECTIVE. It empowers the 47 regime by feeding their propaganda machine.

What I posted is a simple act to promote. For more detailed safety and deescalation, see the resources compiled by Hands Off organizers here.

[Skittles]

14. I don't agree with violence at all

but sitting down is ridiculous

[pat_k]

16. Well, we can't all agree on everything.

[Silent Type]

5. Ones who will get hurt if situation worsens in LA, are the people we supposedly support. 50501 type protests

work too.

And trump will likely gain a bit of support, as long as he doesn’t kill/hurt too many, making situation even worse.

[pat_k]

7. Non-Violent protest is more effective in effecting change

The Harvard Gazette
Nonviolent resistance proves potent weapon
Michelle Nicholasen
February 4, 2019
9 min read

Erica Chenoweth discovers it is more successful in effecting change than violent campaigns

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/why-nonviolent-resistance-beats-violent-force-in-effecting-social-political-change/

[Bread and Circuses]

8. The nonviolent visibility approach is the Right Way for Now...

I understand your frustration. I just posted a long rant.

However, every rock thrown gives TACO justification for martial law. Most protesters are peaceful.

I think ICE incited people and some reacted.

I’ll be on the sidewalk on June 14th.

Yes, I do believe martial law will be instituted and we will be under authoritarian control. But, sticks and stones will not stop the Marines. Any violence will be met will more violence and death.

I don’t have an answer.

[pat_k]

10. Non-Violence is also MORE EFFECTIVE

It takes courage. And it can mean putting oneself in danger of injury -- or worse. But there are resources for safety and deescalation that EVERY person participating in ANY type of non-violent protest needs to be aware of -- and needs to heed.

NO KINGS held trainings June 4 and earlier today.

See also deescalation resources compiled by Hands Off organizers here.

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The Harvard Gazette
Nonviolent resistance proves potent weapon
Michelle Nicholasen
February 4, 2019
9 min read

Erica Chenoweth discovers it is more successful in effecting change than violent campaigns

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/why-nonviolent-resistance-beats-violent-force-in-effecting-social-political-change/

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. Spoiler alert: throwing rocks, damaging property and putting up roadblocks are counted as "nonviolent" in that study.

[Jirel]

11. Hell no. Stay home if you agree with this.

Seriously. Nobody needs a fair-weather “comrade” who will comply in advance be narc on fellow protestors. This is a meme of cowards and moles.

[pat_k]

12. Violence and property damage sets us BACK.

It is self-defeating and empowers the 47 regime by feeding their propaganda machine.

If a "fellow protestor" decides to break windows or damage a car, they are no "fellow" of mine.

And sitting down is NOT "narcing." What fucking nonsense!! It is simply refusing to participate in violent acts. The person committing those acts is more likely a pro-47 instigator than any "fellow" of mine.

And here is some more advice I highly recommend:

Freedom Over Fascism Toolkit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s0JbXhND7-1iqABNcUNL031NQLxkLfr-USkCKGZTidI/edit?tab=t.0

[Prairie_Seagull]

20. Upright significant physical separation from thugery while marching

would IMO still send the message that not all are thugs. We all will need to watch our shit, keep heads on a swivel and protest loudly. If danger becomes realized during marches and not just march containable one ofs. Distance is our friend.

IMO