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yellow dahlia

(2,486 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:08 PM 14 hrs ago

I'm concerned that infiltrators and instigators are staged to escalate in L.A.

I (like others on this forum) think the Mexican flags may be a "plant".

I see some folks at the front of the action who seem to be "in costume" and setting a scene. I am now seeing many Keffiyeh scarves, and I even saw what looked like the type of head band worn by Arab militants (like Hamas). I saw some individuals yelling at law enforcement in an antagonistic and relentless way....as if to provoke.

Anyone else see what I am seeing?

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WhiskeyGrinder

(25,049 posts)
2. Why do people think Mexican flags are a plant?
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:15 PM
14 hrs ago

Why would people protesting the state's actions carry the flag of the state?

Should cops allow themselves to be provoked if they're being yelled at?

Archae

(47,173 posts)
3. People do riot. They don't need "outside agitators" or "plants."
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:16 PM
14 hrs ago

I'm reminded of the Rodney King riots.

People were angry, while others just wanted to cause trouble.

Remember during the Rodney King riot, when that truck driver was hit with a brick?
The thug who threw it had his hands in the air after, like he had just scored a touchdown.

There will be those who only want to "burn it all down."

Those who just go with the rest of the mob.

Those who are opportunists.

So are there instigators?
I seriously doubt it.

blm

(114,139 posts)
12. The worst of the violence and ALL the murders of law officers during 2020 protests
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 12:47 AM
13 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 9, 2025, 12:48 PM - Edit history (1)

were committed by members of the same RightWing groups who attacked the Capitol.

The worst of the violence and ALL the murders of law enforcement during the 2020 Floyd protests were committed by members of far right extremist groups intending to trigger the civil war they’ve been preparing for the last 3 decades. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/522509-feds-say-far-right-group-coordinated-attack-on-minneapolis-police-precinct/

yellow dahlia

(2,486 posts)
14. I have been disappointed that there hasn't been more follow up info
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 11:03 AM
2 hrs ago

about this, in the media and elsewhere.

Silent Type

(9,809 posts)
4. Doubt the Mexican flags are plants. I'm sure there are agitators, maybe even some Hegseth undercover henchmen.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:17 PM
14 hrs ago

That’s what happens in most protests except those like 50501 in April.

Fortunately, what I saw today was a lot of people watching from hills on the freeways, tons of people who looked like professional photographers, journalists, podcasters, people hoping to get a viral video, folks who’d go wherever there’s a crowd on a weekend, etc.

Obviously saw some serious protesters, including some who brought helmets, shields, bullhorns, etc.

RockRaven

(17,342 posts)
5. It would be unnecessary. Cops can escalate any time they feel like it, and get away with it.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:19 PM
14 hrs ago

kimbutgar

(25,251 posts)
6. I would not put it past them in this social media / internet environment of manipulating via neurolinguistic
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:20 PM
14 hrs ago

Programming to ensure compliance with the orange taco Hitler’s regime. Our democracy is in danger people!

Silver Gaia

(5,090 posts)
10. I haven't seen anything yet from the people at the front
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:32 PM
14 hrs ago

of the protests that we didn't do at Vietnam War protests. We yelled at cops, flipped them off, spit at them, called them "PIGS!" We didn't burn cars, but that's the only thing I've seen that I think is probably being done by outside agitators, and we had those kind of infiltrators, too (COINTELPRO). All I've seen so far is the burning cars, though. Newsom mentioned in his MSNBC interview tonight that there are anarchists coming in to cause trouble that will play right into Trump's hands. And yes, that is worrisome, but I do not think they are the people at the front of the lines. Those are mostly pissed off young people -- and rightly so! The troublemakers are stealthy and do not want to be seen.

yellow dahlia

(2,486 posts)
11. I will follow up on several comments at once.
Sun Jun 8, 2025, 11:49 PM
14 hrs ago

I believe that much of the damage done to property during the Summer protests after the killing of George Floyd was done by infiltrators. I do not know if anyone was able to track to what degree. But I do know that the Minneapolis police station was burned down by the Boogaloo Bois. I saw someone in black "gear" scale the fence and knock it down, and encourage others to join him. It was live in the background while Ali Velshi was reporting. A couple of years later a reported identified the perpetrators as Boogaloo Bois.

If we don't identify infiltrators because we don't want to sound like "them", then one of their reverse psychology tactics is working.

Why did Mexican flags all of a sudden show up? Ice isn't only targeting Mexicans. Earlier on DU, someone mentioned that the appropriate flag to be waving is the American flag. I agree.

I hope this situation does not escalate. We need the protests to continue to be peaceful.

I also wonder if some of this escalation on the part of the administration take over is intended to instill a message of warning for the protests on the 14th. Intimidation is one of the grifter's favorite tactics.

Stay safe all!

BigmanPigman

(53,114 posts)
13. Today an old 2020 video was used by Ted Cruz and James Woods
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 01:54 AM
12 hrs ago

as their "proof" of violence in LA during riots. No one even checks the dates of these videos before they open their big, ignorant mouths. Adam Mockler showed that on his show earlier.

"Cruz took to X to share a video posted originally by conservative actor James Woods, who said he will "throw up" if people refer to the protests as peaceful. The video shows police vehicles burning.

"The fact check came quickly.

Want more breaking political news? Click for the latest headlines at Raw Story.

Former MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan said, "It’s also not from today or this week. It’s an old video. You’re a US Senator so you should apologize and delete this tweet. It’s pure misinformation."

Republicans against Trump noted, "This…is……from 2020."

Liberal activist Harry Sisson said, "This video is not from this year. This is blatant misinformation. Why are you lying? Delete this and apologize."

https://local.newsbreak.com/raw-story-2096750/4043549273223-sorry-senator-ted-cruz-gets-brutal-fact-check-and-told-to-delete-his-post

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