Yes, it sucks, but we need former Trump supporters like this woman in our tent. Without them, we simply do NOT have the

[artemisia1]

numbers to turn the tide against this Administration. Recrimination can wait for later -- or never. Let's win this battle:

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:uo2fna47c4v6zcnklxfhcvjb/post/3lr5c4syqhk2v?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.democraticunderground.com%252F100220378610

[Celerity]

1. They didn't figure shit out in 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022, or 2024, but NOW they have buyer's remorse? Fuck them.

[artemisia1]

2. We can't afford to. The tipping point won't be reached without them.

[Celerity]

3. Plenty of non voters to recruit, their numbers are FAR larger than remorseful MAGAts

[artemisia1]

4. Remorseful MAGA's have a track record of VOTING.

[Celerity]

5. Yes, voting for a death cult. I trust them as far as I toss this one:

[NCgayguy]

12. Hi Celerity!

I'm not body shaming here BUT as a retired professional hairstylist, I have to say:: Why spend all that money on drump garb, wrapping oneself in USA attire, and bright red lipstick, YET she couldn't afford professional hair care products for that frizzy hair? Why the hell people bleach and/or color their hair and then not spend a cent to keep it healthy, is beyond me!!!!! Sorry, it's a BIG PET PEEVE of mine from my former life. It's been a sleepless night for me. LOL

ps, thanks for the laugh you gave me as I looked at her this morning. I needed it!

[Walleye]

14. They are non-voters, because they don't give a shit. We can't change that.

[Celerity]

19. Of course we can. It is easier to get a non voter to vote (and vote D) than it is to get a MAGAt to flip to D.

[Walleye]

21. I hope you are right about this

[Celerity]

22. A good start would be to purge all No Labels Problem Solvers influence within the Democratic party/elected members.

No Labels Problem Solvers in the House (working hand in glove with Coal and Curtsy in the Senate) ratfucked Biden (and our Party in general) in the first 2 years of his term, blocking all but $980 billion in new spend out of Biden's $6.1 trillion in new spend on his 2 major infrastructure bill frameworks.

A huge amount of that spending would have went directly to the type of people who rarely or never vote and often say (even if wrongly) 'both parties are the same, neither gets good thing done that directly make my life truly better'. The Problem Solvers' (and Manchinema's) gutting of the Biden agenda played right into that line of thought.

[Shrek]

11. When is the cutoff?

How many years have to pass before you'd be willing to accept their vote?

[Celerity]

20. That is sophistry. I never said I wouldn't accept their vote. nt

[Demovictory9]

6. agreed.

[SunSeeker]

7. K & R

[In It to Win It]

8. I hope that trickles down the ticket. You can't regret your vote for the man and also vote for people that enable him

You want Trump to be less effective, vote for Democrats in the House and Senate.

[markie]

9. yes

time to be pragmatic, smart, willing to accept and do what it takes to turn this around

[NCgayguy]

10. They need to prove it!

I get that, I really do, truly! We need the numbers BUT no free pass. Let them band together and start their own movement to show their remorse or it's no different than being a part of a mob that murders someone and then says "Well, I didn't fire the gun! I didn't pull the trigger! I was just there holding the victim down and I'm sorry I did." or "I didn't mean to keep my knee on his neck for 9 minutes!" Sorry, but not sorry, it's all the same.

Yes we need the numbers but they have to do the work, now, during and after, and not just because they are being shunned by their own family and friends and don't want to take responsibility for their own actions of the crippling and death of the greatest country in the world.

That's why Nazis were tried and held accountable for years, even decades, after their support for putting Jews to death. And let us not forget their support for torture and death of homosexuals was NEVER punished! Gays were put right back into those camps to die when others were freed! Folks seem to forget that! And NO! I'm not getting off topic. It's the same damn thing! It's called accountability and honest remorse.

Please don't take my angry words to mean I'm attacking you or the idea. It's just my own opinion and reply.

[Scrivener7]

13. The DNC should put together talking points for these

people to have conversations with their maga friends. They'd have more success than any of us.

[ck4829]

15. They can form their own tent and attract other Republicans into it

Rather than corrupt our party, they can form their own thing

[taxi]

16. You see, here is the problem.

There was not one thing that was said that was in support of anything positive. No recommendations to ensure rights. No recommendations for feeding the hungry or helping the poor. No recommendations for protecting the environment. No recommendations for anything to make life better for anyone.
This person thinks that impeaching Trump is a sensible objective.
Geeze!

[karynnj]

17. Technically, we need MORE of the people who voted for Biden

and sat 2024 out. It may be the case since 2016, that the party in power loses its least committed supporters. Then given a nearly 50/50 divide, power goes to the other side.

A better reason for welcoming any leaving Trump is that the hatred and division is a bad idea on both sides. We should not demonize regular people swept up by MAGA.

Coming from a large, liberal, accepting family and currently living in Burlington VT, I only interact with a small number of Republicans, much less MAGA. The very few I encounter in VT public spaces are not inherently evil, though they repeat the lies they have accepted.

We should NOT abandon any of our beliefs or values, but we should model civility to them. Emulating their rejection of half the country (us) makes things worse not better.

Yes, I know that it is easier to say and do that living in my deep blue bobble. One other thought, didn't we do this in 2024, even at our convention and big joint events with Liz Cheney?

[usedtobedemgurl]

18. If they are sincere, great!

Thing is, why is their self-esteem so low that they cannot realize what they did wrong without our stamp of approval or us asking them to join the party?

This woman seems to understand. She says we are mad and thinks that is fine. She is going to attend a protest. Awesome! The lady did not say she is leaving her party and joining the Democratic party. Maybe she will, but her lack of condemnation may point to her being dumb enough she does not understand they are all in on destroying our country.

When a dog bites you, the way they collectively bit us, you do not put out your hand to be bitten again.

She voted for woman to have abortion rights taken away. For immigrants to be deported. For LGBTQ folks to be minimaIized. And much, much more. She cannot be sorry for all that, since she voted for it. She wanted her fellow citizens to be hurt.

The woman would come across as sincere if she showed us her changed voter ID card and condemned all of her party. If she was dumb enough vote for trump, before, she will vote for that party again. She did not state why she feels this way. This video is recent, (the date she is going to the planned protest) so she did not have a problem with trump in all the proceeding months? Either she was affected by his actions or someone close to her was. She is sorry she got caught up in the hurt and misery.

She is not truly my ally is she will turn around and vote for that party and their lack of values in the future. She is too stupid to understand what her party is about. After trump leaves, it will be the status quo all over again.

I will tolerate her, for the good of my country. If others want to reach out and figure out what went wrong, I will talk to them. But if they truly see the error of their ways, bow egregious that party is, they will be truly embarrassed and humiliated. They will fully understand our lack of empathy and trust in them. If they had a true understanding, they would not turn away from what would save our people and country because people who are justified bring mad are angry at them. They will know they did wrong and try to do better in the future. When people say to outreach to these folks, because we need them, it baffles me. Either they know they were wrong, and act accordingly, or they have not learned their lesson about this admin and when their fee fees get hurt, they go crying back to their party. It is all on them, not us. We did pur research and voted the way which would benefit look be and all.

I do not want to get bitten again. Smart people get often and keep a distance. If is all them. Until one of them says they are asking for forgiveness, they have changed parties and they will never vote Republican again, I will stay on the sidelines. They are not children who need to be coddled. They talk about people pulling themselves up by their own boot straps. I would personally feel insulted if another adult felt I needed to be coddled. I am a grown ass adult. Why the neck should I be coddled. Be not coddling them is showing the same respect I want for myself.

Every time one of these posts come up, I always wonder where are all of their posts stating they need go reach out and start a discussion with us. We are in the right. We don't habe to reach out, especially with how much hate and lack if intelligence is demonstrated by them everyday. Just cause the Nazis took her job (or whatever they did to her) does not mean she has truly !earned anything except about getting butt hurt. Hen does the media cover us and how we were wronged in so many ways? When will blog posts say they have to go a long way to make up those votes to us? When will I hear they will never vote republican again?

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