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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI was taught by the SDS in 1968
How and why to protest nonviolently.
You link arms and stand shoulder-to-shoulder. Bullhorns blaring hold the line!, hold the line! And you do because you are too scared to move.
There are dogs snapping and snarling at the edges. There are fire trucks spraying water. There is singing, chanting, tear gas, and chaos. There is fear - on both sides.
Then the arrests begin. Dont resist. Lay down - make them pick you up by the feet and arms and sling you into a paddy wagon.
The purpose of this nonviolent protest is to make the police the aggressors - not you. Yes, there are anarchists and, sometimes, paid agitators in the crowd.
American flags are flying everywhere - not other countries flags. No cars are set on fire and no one loots.
The whole worlds watching!
In San Antonio and surroundings there are lots of folks who would support a peaceful protest - not these cherry picked mob scenes by the media.
The current LA unrest could give TACO man an excuse to shut down Saturdays planned protests.
Just my two cents.
dem4decades
(13,667 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,244 posts)dem4decades
(13,667 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,439 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)1) They aren't organized for national deployments of guard and troops; the weekend military meeting at Camp David not withstanding. There is a lot to talk about with the military: rooting out woke, belligerating against Iran, pumping weapons into Israel, squeezing Ukraine, resetting military to deal with drones, Kegsbreath "leadership", Big Beautiful? Parade, ....
2) The public won't stand for it. No Kings day is going to have a lot of families out, some children, very different from confrontations with ICE which is at the root of the LA unrest.
3) tRump won't want news outside DC interfering with what he hopes is media dominance with his masturb masterful birthday bash.
SARose
(1,831 posts)Women and children singing God Bless America, This Land is Your Land, My Country tis of Thee, and We Shall Over Come.
Trump would have a conniption fit watching Americans singing patriotic songs while nonviolently marching.
Take back patriotism from the Facists because
The Whole Worlds Watching
Take away his photo op.
erronis
(22,650 posts)Push the press corps out of range - use tear gas and "non-lethal" rounds on the press. Perhaps let a FUX/maga-friendly outlet get some good shots.
Confiscate phones and search for social media posts.
Make it a crime to publish any material defamatory to the regime.
tinrobot
(11,948 posts)If the police are the only ones standing, any violence they create is on full display.
EYESORE 9001
(29,449 posts)The guy with the good explosives is always a Fed.
Basso8vb
(1,230 posts)SARose
(1,831 posts)A split screen shot of tanks and troops marching in Washington and Americans of every color, size, and shape standing shoulder-to-shoulder singing
Land that I love
Stand beside her
And guide her
Through the night with the light from above
From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
💕
Ms. Toad
(38,239 posts)I'm absolutely with you on the rest of it.
But policing what flags are carried, when the protest is about how we are treating citizens of other counties, is offensive.
Would I carry a flag from another country? Nope - no more than I would carry this country's flag. But there is nothing violence-inducing or offensive about carrying the flag - whatever the country it represents.
SARose
(1,831 posts)I said
If you are offended by that I apologize. It was not my intention to offend anyone.
The photo of an rioter 🙄 holding a foreign flag is just what Trumpy wants to use over and over in 2026.
Why give him this?
Ponietz
(4,227 posts)MAGA sees a Mexican flag and reasons If you love Mexico so much well help you go live there. Mexican flags trigger them.
Many Hispanics who identify with the U.S. flag voted for Lump. One needs to understand the split within the Hispanic community.
rickyhall
(5,506 posts)TomWilm
(1,937 posts)I also did my first sitdowns in '68, though that was a school child
. But I am still doing it. One good memory was with German kaoten - the best organized crowd, I have been working with.
The police was provoking them worse and worse, and then one guy started to throw some bottles. Next second all around him had him pinned down and searched - and then they walked him to the police line: "One of your guys" - he had a police ID....
Another time when we were peacefully walking through a big town, again police started to provoke. This time the whole demonstration sat down, and the police leader was called. He was told to withdraw the special police squad, or we would keep sitting there - blocking the whole town. He did as ordered.
Idiots burning cars is as big a problem, as the police themselves. Organizing and training, planning and executing the plans in affinity groups - can change the world!
Prairie Gates
(7,175 posts)Dear Boomers, take your own generation's advice on that old road and get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand.
SARose
(1,831 posts)I did more than my share back in the day and still am.
I want to see 40-50 somethings take up the torch. Its your time.
Twenties and thirties - bring us your social media skills. Bring your videography.
America needs you more than ever. ✌️
Ponietz
(4,227 posts)
senseandsensibility
(24,240 posts)I appreciate your experience and wisdom. It makes me sad that some don't want to listen to what your generation learned. The tactics of the Civil Rights movement were SUCCESSFUL. Lives were lost learning how to protest successfully. We would be stupid and ungrateful not to listen.
Iris
(16,844 posts)SARose
(1,831 posts)Yes it was hard but I was 18, trusting and invincible. 😬
Then Kent State happened and my Dad was like seee I told you! Work within the system! Be the change you want!
So I did. Diddy bopped my way into an AME church in South Louisiana with a folding table, chair, portable typewriter and stacks of voter registration cards and got to work. First person I registered was a 90 something year old black man. He had never voted because he could not write his name - in cursive.🙄 So his granddaughter taught him - in cursive. The smile on that mans face was incredible.🤭
My Dad What the heck are you doing! They are going to burn a cross in our front yard!
Cant win for losing. 😂
Still doing voter registration, occasionally. Seeing that same smile on an 18 year olds face is soul satisfying. This, too, is quickly disappearing thanks to modern technology.
Light and love
Rose
Ping Tung
(4,137 posts)As I recall, I joined SDS in 1967.