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AStern

(650 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:22 AM Jun 2025

If the protesters want to be taken seriously, they should consider dressing nicer. Come on, t-shirts and jeans?

Oh sure, because nothing says “credible protest” like a sea of American flags. Maybe if they waved a few more Stars and Stripes, ICE would stop tearing families apart?

The obsession with how many flags they’re carrying isn’t about patriotism—it’s a tired tactic to discredit the protest itself. It’s not subtle, and it’s not new. The message is clear, but critics would rather nitpick the packaging than face the substance. Plain and simple.








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If the protesters want to be taken seriously, they should consider dressing nicer. Come on, t-shirts and jeans? (Original Post) AStern Jun 2025 OP
they should have carried trump flags LOL nt Javaman Jun 2025 #1
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. bif Jun 2025 #2
Dripping with it AStern Jun 2025 #3
I appreciate that Hekate Jun 2025 #22
I think there is a touch of honesty and maybe getting the big picture Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #4
...AND CUT THEIR HAIR!!! ret5hd Jun 2025 #5
Damnit Traildogbob Jun 2025 #6
DON'T THEY OWN A SUIT ?!? dweller Jun 2025 #7
Tidy, polite, inoffensive Torchlight Jun 2025 #8
Good people are falling for the bullshit. Again. Basso8vb Jun 2025 #9
All jokes aside. Marcuse Jun 2025 #10
You've got to be fuckin kidding. Conjuay Jun 2025 #11
I have no interest in tone-policing protesters, however, TheProle Jun 2025 #12
. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2025 #15
That's your opinion, and I stand by my comment as written. TheProle Jun 2025 #16
You must lose your mind in Irish pubs all over the US then Arazi Jun 2025 #18
Nope, not at all. TheProle Jun 2025 #20
I have no interest in tone-policing . . . then proceeds to tone police. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2025 #19
Oh bullshit. TheProle Jun 2025 #21
Nope. Just an objective description of what you just did. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2025 #23
I saw a photo of someone protesting with an Americna flag but they had green hair, what do WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2025 #13
Same tactics as the 60's and early 70's Picaro Jun 2025 #14
It's so obviously right wing bullshit MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #17
It's such an absurd talking point. The media will always find something "wrong" with protests. Oneironaut Jun 2025 #24

AStern

(650 posts)
3. Dripping with it
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:29 AM
Jun 2025

In response to the attempts of invalidating the concerns of the protesters. Many of whom are of Mexican heritage.

Hekate

(100,131 posts)
22. I appreciate that
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 11:44 AM
Jun 2025

I got into a circular argument with someone who said there was no way we should be allowing Mexican flags at our protests, and when I gave him a thumbnail sketch of the history of California, he doubled down, saying in that case the land had been twice stolen.

The real Bobby Kennedy stood with Dolores Huerta and Cesar Chavez. In California.
Si se puede.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,097 posts)
4. I think there is a touch of honesty and maybe getting the big picture
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:31 AM
Jun 2025

Also seeing things from another perspective.

Traildogbob

(12,445 posts)
6. Damnit
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:35 AM
Jun 2025

Who knew those damn Jean wearing tee shirt clad hippies could have ended Viet Nam sooner if they had pressed and creased jeans with a nice colored button down shirt. Maybe Izod. Tucked in of course.
Did ya see what those fine patriots wore in Jan 6?
Or any Trump KKKlan Jamboree?

Torchlight

(6,267 posts)
8. Tidy, polite, inoffensive
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:43 AM
Jun 2025

The push to water-down protests down into quaint parades utterly misses the point: if dissent is defanged, the GOP will just conjure up some new, baseless outrage. And naturally, we’ll be treated to more sanctimonious lectures on why we must appease those too.

Basso8vb

(1,230 posts)
9. Good people are falling for the bullshit. Again.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jun 2025

The divide and conquer strategy is working.

TheProle

(3,892 posts)
12. I have no interest in tone-policing protesters, however,
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 11:01 AM
Jun 2025

if I move to foreign country for a better life for myself and my family and am protesting for my right to stay in that country and pursue that dream, I'm not waving around an American flag on that soil.

That said, ask any Occupy veterans about the challenges of managing myriad messages and attitudes. Conflicting imagery is inevitable.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,166 posts)
15. .
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 11:13 AM
Jun 2025
I have no interest in tone-policing protesters, however, if I move to foreign country for a better life for myself and my family and am protesting for my right to stay in that country and pursue that dream, I'm not waving around an American flag on that soil.


That is such a hilariously unlikely hypothetical you could have saved time and effort by either putting a period after "I have no interest in tone-policing protestors" and leaving it at that OR just saying "I don't like what they're doing."

Arazi

(8,682 posts)
18. You must lose your mind in Irish pubs all over the US then
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 11:34 AM
Jun 2025

The week before St Paddy’s Day must be unbearable.

And those Ukrainian flags I see in some windows are simply crazy. Crazy I tell ya!

Don’t get me started on those Canadians either. How dare they display that shit anywhere in the US! Damn maple leafs

Picaro

(2,321 posts)
14. Same tactics as the 60's and early 70's
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 11:11 AM
Jun 2025

The protesters were scruffy and they waved Vietnamese flags and they chanted mean slogans and they just weren’t polite and well dressed enough.

Forget that part about being drafted for a war that even with the benefit of hindsight made no sense at all. A war that the power structure in the US was so adamant about getting into that they may have had the sitting US president assassinated. But we’ll never see the unreacted files on that now will we?

The English nobility just didn’t like the way Wat Tyler and his people acted during the Peasant’s Revolt of 1381 either (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants%27_Revolt). Forget all that stuff about taxes and being able to charge more for labor because of the labor shortage caused by the Black Death.

These are the typical complaints of the powerful. Forget the lack of due process, the overt arbitrary violence of masked heavily armed ICE agents, the kidnapping of people of color without reference to any charges. Forget all that. These people were waving Mexican flags for god’s sake. And, gasp, some of them are wearing masks (most likely to provide some protection from the clouds of tear gas, but maybe to keep them from getting scooped up later due to facial recognition software).

Power doesn’t like being resisted. Never has. Never will.

Oneironaut

(6,195 posts)
24. It's such an absurd talking point. The media will always find something "wrong" with protests.
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 12:05 PM
Jun 2025

The protesters could be wearing suits and evening gowns, waving the American flag, and, singing God Bless America, and, the media would still shit on them and call them the bad guys. Respectability politics just do not work.

Of course, within reason. There are things that can make a protest look bad, like violence. Not t-shirts though.

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