We need the SCIENTISTS in Medical Science. Either RFK Jr. is barking mad or he wants to kill Americans.

[Botany]

He just fired all 17 SCIENTISTS from the CDC who advise on vaccines.

CBS: RFK Jr. removes every member of CDC vaccine advisory committee

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-removes-members-cdc-immunization-advisory-committee-acip/

“Medical science refers to the branch of knowledge that studies the human body, health, and diseases. It encompasses a wide range of disciplines, including:

Anatomy: The study of the structure and function of the body's organs and systems.

Physiology: The study of how the body's organs and systems work.

Biochemistry: The study of the chemical processes that occur in the body.

Microbiology: The study of microorganisms, such as bacteria and viruses.

Pathology: The study of diseases and their causes.

Pharmacology: The study of drugs and their effects on the body.

Medical science aims to understand the mechanisms of health and disease, develop treatments and preventive measures, and improve human well-being. It plays a crucial role in advancing medical knowledge, diagnosing and treating illnesses, and promoting healthcare advancements.”

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Thanx to DUer senseandsensibility for posting about this shit show.

[PJMcK]

1. It's both

Just like Trump.

[Botany]

2. This is insanity. RFK Jr. spreads misinformation and doubts about vaccines and talks about lack of ..

public confidence in vaccine science? This is like an arsonist complaining about fires.

"A clean sweep is needed to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science," Kennedy wrote in an opinion piece published by the Wall Street Journal.” From the CBS link.

[brush]

6. Yep, mad as a hatter and a typical appointee of trump's clown car cabal of a cabinet.

There will be consequences for this anti-vaxx moron being in charge of the nation's health.

Imagine, no medical/immunobiological advisers for the HHS sec'y. That's so idiotic as trump, obsessed with deportations and 'strongman' visuals in LA, he lets the HHS moron continue on.

I doubt he's even aware. Who ever the last person to have his ear gets whatever EO thaty want.

We see you Steven Miller. Why don't try to take back you wife from Musk instead of trying to take bact the nation from it's people?

[FarPoint]

3. His mission is simple....

He wants to appear like a leading Kennedy using his Kennedy legacy.... yet he is destroying the name for generations... RFK is a tool.... it's that simple.

[Botany]

5. And he is a stooge for Putin and Russia because they are behind this anti vaccine disinformation campaigns

to weaken America via social divisions and illnesses. Russia pumps their calculated toxic
lies from a group called “Storm 15-16.”

I wonder if he is on Putin’s payroll?

[multigraincracker]

7. His whole family has come out against him.

[mucifer]

4. he's evil. That's for sure.

[bucolic_frolic]

8. Trust me, the wealthy will have the best medicine available anywhere in the world /nt

[Timewas]

9. Why either one

Either RFK Jr. is barking mad or he wants to kill Americans.


Why not both??

[allegorical oracle]

10. What's baffling is that so many people think he's just fine despite the stories about

the whale carcass, the dead bear cub, his lack of medical education, warnings from his relatives -- and the numerous medical pros who've publicly opposed his views. In any other decade of my life, this man would've been laughed off the stage.

They persist in presenting the batshit crazy as being normal and sound.

[thucythucy]

11. He fired them to make sure there is no opposition from inside the government

when his "research" on vaccines causing autism is announced.

Likewise, he doesn't want anyone in authority to dispute any other assertions he'll make about public health.

[Botany]

12. If he wasn't a Kennedy he would be the person on a bus, or a plane, or at a bar, or on a park bench ...

… that you would avoid because they babble crazy ass crap about vaccines and big foots
that eat people’s pets.

[travelingthrulife]

13. He wants to be 'right'. In order to do that he has to get rid of everyone who opposes

his crazy ideas.

[MineralMan]

14. Probably It's Both.

And that's some scary shit...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

15. Maddow Blog-RFK Jr. breaks promise to senators, guts CDC vaccine panel of independent experts

Before his confirmation, the HHS secretary said he’d leave the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices alone. Now he’s doing the opposite.

That an unqualified, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist is behaving like an unqualified, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist is painfully predictable.

But the fact remains that 52 Senate Republicans were given an opportunity to protect Americans from RFK Jr. — and they failed spectacularly.

— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-06-10T13:46:55.481Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/cdc-vaccine-panel-acip-rfk-jr-kennedy-rcna212007

In early February, when there was still some question as to whether or not the Senate would confirm Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, Sen. Bill Cassidy delivered a closely watched speech on the Senate floor. The Louisiana Republican, a physician by trade, not only endorsed the anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist during his remarks, he offered assurances about the future.

“If confirmed, [Kennedy] will maintain the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices — without changes,” Cassidy declared with confidence, pointing to assurances he’d received directly from RFK Jr.

Four months later, as NBC News reported, Cassidy has been proven wrong.

The 17 members of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s independent vaccine advisory committee are being removed from their posts, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Monday afternoon.

.....Complicating matters is the degree to which these new developments add to a radical and dangerous pattern. Indeed, Kennedy’s announcement came just days after pediatric infectious disease expert Dr. Lakshmi Panagiotakopoulos resigned from her position as the co-leader of a CDC working group that advises outside experts on Covid vaccines.

In an email to colleagues, Panagiotakopoulos said, “My career in public health and vaccinology started with a deep-seated desire to help the most vulnerable members of our population, and that is not something I am able to continue doing in this role.”

Around the same time, The Associated Press reported that there’s some ambiguity as to who, exactly, is currently leading the CDC.

A New York Times report added:

Under Mr. Kennedy’s leadership, the F.D.A. has narrowed availability of Covid vaccines to adults 65 and older and Americans with certain underlying conditions. Mr. Kennedy later announced that the C.D.C. would no longer recommend the vaccines for healthy children or pregnant women, a decision that normally would have come from the agency’s A.C.I.P. ... He also oversees the National Institutes of Health, which halted funding for researchers who study vaccine hesitancy and canceled programs intended to discover new vaccines to prevent future pandemics. The department has also ended work crucial to developing an H.I.V. vaccine and a contract for a vaccine against bird flu.

As unsettling as the news has been, none of it is surprising. RFK Jr.’s anti-science reputation was well established long before Trump nominated him. That an unqualified, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist is behaving like an unqualified, anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist is painfully predictable.

[Botany]

16. Bring back iron lungs those polo vaccines don't work.

Under JFK Jr. science* has been abandoned for “half baked woo.” Cell lines that
are vital to research that have been going for years are under threat, even though
the C-19 virus is still killing 300 Americans a week and is mutating into new strains
he is abandoning work on it, and Russian produced disinformation about virology
and evolutionary biology is in-braced by clueless ideologues and right wing talkers.

* science = “the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.“ BTW science
Is just that science it is not liberal or conservative or white or black or straight or gay. They are doing
the same anti science nonsense to NOAA’s climate observatory on Mauna Loa right now too.

Thanx for your post.

[mainer]

17. We need an Alt-CDC, manned by the former committee members

They can give us science-based, reasonable recommendations for those of us who want advice from real experts.
Then we can ignore RFK's pseudo-committee.

They need their own website, with links to relevant research, and announcements made to Bluesky. If we can get Dr. Fauci to contribute, all the better.