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I will not be listening to the crazed guy, TSF just started WWIII, I don't think China and Russia will stand idle... (Original Post) wcmagumba Jun 21 OP
I think we're in it deep and with this inept leadership Deuxcents Jun 21 #1
me neither stillcool Jun 21 #2
I am not going to watch this asshole tonight LetMyPeopleVote Jun 21 #3
China and Russia will stay out of any direct military response, China may ship weps to Iran ImNotGod Jun 21 #4
I suspect that Vladimir Vladimirovich is kicking back in his Kremlin office Vogon_Glory Jun 21 #13
This isn't WWIII Johnny2X2X Jun 21 #5
I'm not going to listen either. greatauntoftriplets Jun 21 #6
I beg to differ, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 21 #7
bingo WarGamer Jun 21 #12
You think China and Russia are going to come to Iran's aid? Fiendish Thingy Jun 21 #8
Nobody's coming to Iran's aid. This is not WWIII Arazi Jun 21 #9
If and when WW3 happens, it won't be over Iran. Boomerproud Jun 21 #14
Actually what they're likely to do is let the US get bogged down Vogon_Glory Jun 21 #10
There won't be an invading ground force. Igel Jun 21 #16
For years to come?? ShadesOfBlue Jun 21 #18
If Russia didn't start WW3 over the US/Western proxy war in Ukraine... WarGamer Jun 21 #11
China WILL stay out DUU Jun 21 #15
China and Russia never do anything ShadesOfBlue Jun 21 #17
The UN will and should condemn the USA except for security council veto. PufPuf23 Jun 21 #19
Russia and China will consider stationing thermonuclear nuclear weapons and related ICBMs in Iran. roamer65 Jun 22 #20
I think russia will be very happy about rising oil prices. Crunchy Frog Jun 22 #21
...and a blocked Strait of Hormuz. roamer65 Jun 22 #22

stillcool

(34,386 posts)
2. me neither
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:23 PM
Jun 21

and there's fireworks going off in the background. Just to make the right aura for my reading pleasure.

ImNotGod

(879 posts)
4. China and Russia will stay out of any direct military response, China may ship weps to Iran
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:24 PM
Jun 21

both will up their persuasion for a peace deal, that is all.

Vogon_Glory

(9,984 posts)
13. I suspect that Vladimir Vladimirovich is kicking back in his Kremlin office
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jun 21

and thinking of Napoleon’s dictum: “Never interrupt your enemy while he’s making a mistake.”

And this one was a doozy.

Johnny2X2X

(23,083 posts)
5. This isn't WWIII
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:25 PM
Jun 21

Iran is a 3rd rate power. It’s idiotic to attack them for literally no reason. But this likely won’t be the start of a huge conflict.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
7. I beg to differ,
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:26 PM
Jun 21

Russia can't even defeat a country like Ukraine and I don't really see China getting involved militarily, they're focus is on Tawain and the E. China Sea, which they see as their sphere of influence, they're not going to go head to head with the US Military.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,090 posts)
8. You think China and Russia are going to come to Iran's aid?
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:26 PM
Jun 21

Russia doesn’t have the military resources, and China isn’t going to risk their economic dominance.

Expect a lot of saber rattling, and Putin taking advantage of the news cycle being focused on Iran, but that’s about it.

We may get to see some creative use of hobby drones by Iranians on US soil.

Boomerproud

(8,866 posts)
14. If and when WW3 happens, it won't be over Iran.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:43 PM
Jun 21

But it will involve us versus Russia and/or China.

Vogon_Glory

(9,984 posts)
10. Actually what they're likely to do is let the US get bogged down
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:28 PM
Jun 21

in a prolonged, massive ground war. Most Iranians may (or may not) hate the Ayatollahs, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t see themselves as patriots or that they won’t fight to defend their homeland. I don’t know what sort of red, white and blue psychedelics Trump and his advisers are ingesting, but an invading US ground force WON’T be welcomed as friends. The Irans, both military and civilians alike, WILL fight.

Even if both Trump and Vance vanished into thin air today (6/21/2025), the Iranians are going to hate us for years to come,

Igel

(36,989 posts)
16. There won't be an invading ground force.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:45 PM
Jun 21

None are going to make an amphibious landing in Rehoboth or Galveston or Santa Monica, none are going to invade Iran.

We've dropped bombs. Might drop more bombs. There may be some strike on US assets or forces, a terror attack or two, but that's about it.

WarGamer

(17,561 posts)
11. If Russia didn't start WW3 over the US/Western proxy war in Ukraine...
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:29 PM
Jun 21

Nothing will happen over Ukraine.

DUU

(41 posts)
15. China WILL stay out
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:49 PM
Jun 21

China did send transport aircraft to evacuate some “friends and families”. They will continue to refrain from any direct action or escalation of indirect support, at least until the trade is formally signed off by the US and Xi.

ShadesOfBlue

(83 posts)
17. China and Russia never do anything
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:47 PM
Jun 21

Which is why America can impose itself on the vast majority of the globe.

PufPuf23

(9,494 posts)
19. The UN will and should condemn the USA except for security council veto.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:51 PM
Jun 21

We could lose NATO.

roamer65

(37,680 posts)
20. Russia and China will consider stationing thermonuclear nuclear weapons and related ICBMs in Iran.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:00 AM
Jun 22

Iran is a SCO member. There are mutual defense agreements.

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