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Polybius

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Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:36 AM Jun 22

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) Polybius Jun 22 OP
No RandySF Jun 22 #1
Ok, then enjoy Trump until January 20th, 2029 Polybius Jun 22 #2
Is that stupid fuck still under the impression that there is an anti-war right? W_HAMILTON Jun 22 #3
There is Polybius Jun 22 #7
Yeah, there's not. W_HAMILTON Jun 22 #11
This is the most infuriated I've ever been with the Trump Administration Polybius Jun 22 #12
THERE ARE NO ANTI-WAR REPUBLICANS THAT WILL IMPEACH TRUMP. W_HAMILTON Jun 22 #13
You don't believe that we should try? Polybius Jun 22 #14
What is there to """try?""" Either these mythical anti-war Republicans are for impeachment... W_HAMILTON Jun 22 #16
Let's see what tomorrow brings Polybius Jun 22 #17
Tomorrow means nothing. Lindsey Graham spoke out against January 6th once too. W_HAMILTON Jun 22 #18
Paleo-cons are very anti-war Polybius Jun 22 #9
Exactly. Which supposedly anti-war Republican is initiating a bill to replace Trump? yardwork Jun 22 #30
You posted this literally hours after Trump bombed Iran Polybius Jun 22 #44
never EVER think it cannot get worse with repukes Skittles Jun 22 #4
People said that Mike Pence would be worse than Trump Polybius Jun 22 #10
I can tell you FOR SURE that I've never said that, I'd prefer JD any day AZJonnie Jun 22 #20
I agree with you re Vance róisín_dubh Jun 22 #24
The charisma thing moonscape Jun 22 #40
Remember, Peter Thiel is J.D. Vance's handler. He is investing in authoritarianism. SharonAnn Jun 22 #31
but it's never just one guy Skittles Jun 22 #21
Exactly!! littlemissmartypants Jun 22 #25
When did we ever have that option? yardwork Jun 22 #28
I remember people arguing that Pence would be worse than Trump Kaleva Jun 22 #41
As we have seen, over and over. yardwork Jun 22 #27
What anti war far-right ? JI7 Jun 22 #5
(2019) Bernie Sanders Retracts Endorsement of Young Turks Founder Cenk Uygur After Backlash RandySF Jun 22 #6
I didn't say that he was right very much Polybius Jun 22 #8
Which Republican is initiating a bill to impeach Trump? yardwork Jun 22 #29
TY! When I see "cenk" I fume.. he hates Cha Jun 22 #15
congrads on a post/suggestion that has had the effect of uniting stopdiggin Jun 22 #19
And all of a sudden, compromise and bipartisanship is good! betsuni Jun 22 #22
We can impeach until we're blue in the face, and Roberts needs a cot on the Senate floor DFW Jun 22 #23
No Republican will vote to impeach Trump. yardwork Jun 22 #26
Vance "can't be worse?" Really? Peter Thiel/Curtis Yarvin's "little B..tch?" hlthe2b Jun 22 #32
Yes, Vance Could Be Worse erpowers Jun 22 #37
Vance is unlikable and would not have the cultlike support JI7 Jun 22 #38
I've thought Vance was the RWWhacko plan all along. alittlelark Jun 22 #33
He will be much worse. OldBaldy1701E Jun 22 #34
To survive, America must hit rock bottom. Funtatlaguy Jun 22 #35
This is probably true. yardwork Jun 22 #36
Even a broken clock is right twice a day SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #39
That guy isn't right about anything, ever. tritsofme Jun 22 #42
Please stop looking for simple answers to complex problems Keepthesoulalive Jun 22 #43

RandySF

(75,869 posts)
1. No
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:55 AM
Jun 22

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
2. Ok, then enjoy Trump until January 20th, 2029
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:57 AM
Jun 22

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
3. Is that stupid fuck still under the impression that there is an anti-war right?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:01 AM
Jun 22

Maybe he should try forming a coalition with the actual anti-war Democratic Party instead of stabbing our candidates in the back every election cycle.

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
7. There is
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:08 AM
Jun 22

Pat Buchanan, Tucker, Tulsi, Rand and Ron Paul, Matt Gaetz, MTG, Lauren Boebert, Tom McClintock, JD Vance, Mike Lee, Josh Hawley, and many others are far-right and very anti-war.

I agree with you about forming a coalition with anti-war Democrats, but it's not enough to impeach and convict. We need some Republicans. Besides, they like Vance better anyway. They just might do it this time.

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
11. Yeah, there's not.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:16 AM
Jun 22

All will follow behind Trump like they usually do, except for maybe the Pauls, who care more about being contrarian than they do being anti-war.

Too bad the dumbasses """on the left""" that are so quick to form a bond with MAGA don't give the same benefit of the doubt to Democrats, which would not be bombing Iran right now if one were president.

"They might do it this time."

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
12. This is the most infuriated I've ever been with the Trump Administration
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:20 AM
Jun 22

I'm sorry to ruffle feathers, but we have to at least try and impeach and convict. If it doesn't work, fine. At least we made an effort.

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
13. THERE ARE NO ANTI-WAR REPUBLICANS THAT WILL IMPEACH TRUMP.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:24 AM
Jun 22

How many times does it need to be said?

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
14. You don't believe that we should try?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:27 AM
Jun 22

I'm sorry, but I'm furious right now. Nothing against you.

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
16. What is there to """try?""" Either these mythical anti-war Republicans are for impeachment...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:29 AM
Jun 22

...or they are not.

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
17. Let's see what tomorrow brings
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:31 AM
Jun 22

If no one speaks out, I will concede that you were right.

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
18. Tomorrow means nothing. Lindsey Graham spoke out against January 6th once too.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:35 AM
Jun 22

And yet he eventually came around, as will the vast majority of those whose names you rattled off.

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
9. Paleo-cons are very anti-war
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:10 AM
Jun 22

Problem is, there's not very many of them in the opposing Party.

yardwork

(67,148 posts)
30. Exactly. Which supposedly anti-war Republican is initiating a bill to replace Trump?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:51 AM
Jun 22

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
44. You posted this literally hours after Trump bombed Iran
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:29 PM
Jun 22

Did you expect them to draft impeachment proceedings at 4:30 in the morning?

Skittles

(165,955 posts)
4. never EVER think it cannot get worse with repukes
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:04 AM
Jun 22

IT CAN

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
10. People said that Mike Pence would be worse than Trump
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:11 AM
Jun 22

Yeah, they were wrong.

AZJonnie

(1,021 posts)
20. I can tell you FOR SURE that I've never said that, I'd prefer JD any day
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:52 AM
Jun 22

Vance not being a fucking moron alone makes him more qualified than Mango Mussolini to be in a position of power. Also, he is not the cult leader and he's not charismatic. MAGA will scrutinize what he does in a way they won't with Orange Jesus. Plus I also just don't think anyone is the same level of stupid + evil as IQ45. There's dumber, and there's more evil, but not quite to Clowny McDollhands level, at the same time. I also think Vance probably at least thinks about the world he could play a part in leaving for his children. Trump's brain literally doesn't have the capacity to work that way. I guarantee you he does not understand or know 'love', other than love of money, power, and most of all, self.

Not saying Vance would be great, I'm saying he'd less terrible, and terrifying.

róisín_dubh

(12,068 posts)
24. I agree with you re Vance
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:32 AM
Jun 22

Cult leaders must have charisma above pretty much anything else. It’s a characteristic of populists as well. Vance acts like it’s his first day in a human suit. He’s like a lizard person.

moonscape

(5,568 posts)
40. The charisma thing
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jun 22

with Trump has always baffled me. I have to accept he has it with a lot of folks but cannot see it even through a squint.

SharonAnn

(14,077 posts)
31. Remember, Peter Thiel is J.D. Vance's handler. He is investing in authoritarianism.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 05:07 AM
Jun 22

Led by Curtis Yarvin, they believe democracy is “over” and that what is needed is a technical autocracy led by one person. And Thiel, et Al, have the money to invest in this. They got J.D. Vance in the Senate and then the Vice Presidency. They have further plans for their puppet.
They have a strategic plan and are implementing it. Don’t underestimate them (Thiel, Musk, Yarvin, et al)




Skittles

(165,955 posts)
21. but it's never just one guy
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:58 AM
Jun 22

IT'S THE ENTIRE GOP SHIT SHOW

littlemissmartypants

(28,434 posts)
25. Exactly!!
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:42 AM
Jun 22

It's a criminal gang not a presidential coalition.

yardwork

(67,148 posts)
28. When did we ever have that option?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:49 AM
Jun 22

Kaleva

(39,640 posts)
41. I remember people arguing that Pence would be worse than Trump
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:35 AM
Jun 22

yardwork

(67,148 posts)
27. As we have seen, over and over.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:48 AM
Jun 22

"W can't be worse than Reagan!"

W: hold my beer.

JI7

(92,309 posts)
5. What anti war far-right ?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:05 AM
Jun 22

RandySF

(75,869 posts)
6. (2019) Bernie Sanders Retracts Endorsement of Young Turks Founder Cenk Uygur After Backlash
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:07 AM
Jun 22

Uygur’s sexist and racist commentary has included a segment from his Young Turks show in 2013 in which he ranked women on a scale of 1-10 on “how likely men would be to let them perform oral sex on them,” per the L.A. Times. That same year, Uygur called a model “obviously anorexic” on the show and said she looked “like she’d just come out of a [concentration] camp.” In 2015, Uygur hosted ex-Ku Klux Klan leader and neo-Nazi David Duke on the Young Turks in an anti-Semitic segment about “how Jews control everything.” Video also has surfaced of Uygur using the n-word repeatedly on TYT in 2007. Last year, Uygur’s TYT Network was sued by an ex-employee alleging racial discrimination; Uygur has called the complaint “baseless.”


https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/bernie-sanders-cenk-uygur-retracts-endorsement-backlash-1203436658/

Polybius

(20,495 posts)
8. I didn't say that he was right very much
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:09 AM
Jun 22

Just this time.

yardwork

(67,148 posts)
29. Which Republican is initiating a bill to impeach Trump?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:50 AM
Jun 22

Cha

(312,978 posts)
15. TY! When I see "cenk" I fume.. he hates
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:27 AM
Jun 22

Dems and wants to annihilate our Party.

Then when he got ousted from Justice Dems.. in 2017 for Sexist Racist posts.

stopdiggin

(14,013 posts)
19. congrads on a post/suggestion that has had the effect of uniting
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:36 AM
Jun 22

pretty much the whole of DU. In vigorous opposition!

Even if the mere idea was not so stomach turning and revolting - there is additionally the fact that chances of success are - diminishing to the point of absurdity. These people are NOT going to join any kind of effort to oust ...

betsuni

(28,108 posts)
22. And all of a sudden, compromise and bipartisanship is good!
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:03 AM
Jun 22

As long as a Democrat doesn't suggest it.

Cenk is like Steve Bannon and Justice Democrats and others holding the ridiculous belief there'll be a left-wing and right-wing populist alliance. He hates those yucky corrupt Democrats, one of those dummies who thinks Democrats ignore economic inequality, have no economic policies, ignore the working class ... you know the Both Sides Democrat Bashing script.

"Social issues are really important and worth fighting for. But maybe the left-wing and right-wing should consider uniting on economic issues against corporate rule. We agree a lot more than people realize on these issues."

Now it's anti-war the left-wing and right-wing have in common! Those Republicans are so dreamy!

DFW

(58,480 posts)
23. We can impeach until we're blue in the face, and Roberts needs a cot on the Senate floor
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:16 AM
Jun 22

The likelihood of two thirds of the Senate voting to convict is as great as Pam Bondi being asked to be the featured guest speaker at a rally for AOC.

yardwork

(67,148 posts)
26. No Republican will vote to impeach Trump.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:45 AM
Jun 22

And Vance would be worse. He's gone along with every terrible thing Trump does.

hlthe2b

(110,629 posts)
32. Vance "can't be worse?" Really? Peter Thiel/Curtis Yarvin's "little B..tch?"
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:03 AM
Jun 22
Curtis Yarvin who doesn’t want to fix democracy — he wants to kill it, drag the corpse out back, and set it on fire. In its place, he envisions a cold, ruthless world where billionaires sit on thrones, governments operate like customer service hotlines, and power belongs exclusively to those with the deepest pockets. It’s not a conspiracy theory — it’s a blueprint, and many of Silicon Valley’s richest men seem more than willing to help turn this vision into a reality.
Welcome to the warped mind of Curtis Yarvin. FROM "MENCUS MOLDBUG" TO CREATING A NEW WORLD ORDER


Vance has become their creation. He is the junior high school "nerd" whose only hope of "breaking out" and gaining acceptance was to align himself with the bullies--whomever they might be. He thought he could become them by going to war with the military (though he had a clerical role and was protected throughout from combat), and he was smart enough to attend Harvard and to leverage his childhood into a lauded book/movie. He's not a dumb man by any means, but insecure as hell, and that makes him easily manipulated AND DANGEROUS.

erpowers

(9,425 posts)
37. Yes, Vance Could Be Worse
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:06 AM
Jun 22

I think the problem is that not enough has been written about J.D. Vance and his connections to the tech bros who want to turn this country into a right-wing tech dictator. Vance at the least is a protege of both Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin, both of whom want this country to be run by a right-wing dictator. In addition, Vance is likely more competent than Donald Trump, so he might be able to get more passed and cause more problems.

JI7

(92,309 posts)
38. Vance is unlikable and would not have the cultlike support
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:52 AM
Jun 22

alittlelark

(19,000 posts)
33. I've thought Vance was the RWWhacko plan all along.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:34 AM
Jun 22

Let tRump run loco wild for awhile until he strokes out or is taken out by a high visibility planned ‘assasination’. Letting tRump take all the blame and vitriol to the grave, leaving the citizens in cognitive dissonance and allowing their chosen sociopath to rise to power..

OldBaldy1701E

(8,339 posts)
34. He will be much worse.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:38 AM
Jun 22

That orange gibbon plays with the evangelical right. Couchfuck McGee will take us into a full-blown theocracy or worse the moment he takes office.

He cannot be allowed to sit in the Oval Office. Because that is their long-term plan anyway. To get that empty-headed human into the White House to do their insane bidding.

Funtatlaguy

(11,853 posts)
35. To survive, America must hit rock bottom.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:38 AM
Jun 22

I don’t know what that means exactly.
Hopefully, not nuclear annihilation.
But, short of that, to end Trumpism (not just Trump) real pain must be felt by those who still support Trump and authoritarianism.

And we must keep in mind that many EVANGELICALS (Pence, for example) want to bring about Armageddon and “Christs return”. So, they want full fledged war in the Middle East.

yardwork

(67,148 posts)
36. This is probably true.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:02 AM
Jun 22

SocialDemocrat61

(5,153 posts)
39. Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:08 AM
Jun 22

And I can think of no one as broken as Uyger 😂

tritsofme

(19,355 posts)
42. That guy isn't right about anything, ever.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:37 AM
Jun 22

Republicans, even they claim to be “anti-war” are never ever going to impeach Trump, over anything.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,514 posts)
43. Please stop looking for simple answers to complex problems
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:12 PM
Jun 22

Partnering with monsters dilutes our message and our values, we must stand for what we feel is right.
Just as our external enemies are trying to destroy us, so are the internal enemies. These monsters are the reason trump is president and because they just figured out he is a liar does not make them allies or people worthy of our support.

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