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SocialDemocrat61

(5,153 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:42 AM Jun 22

Be sure to send a thank you note to

Jon Stewart, George Clooney, Rob Reiner, Bill Maher, Jake Tapper, Michael Moore and everyone who publicly trashed President Biden last year.

Also, send one to Susan Sarandon and Eddie Glaude for telling people not to vote for Hillary Clinton in 16. Plus a gift basket to Jill Stein.

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Be sure to send a thank you note to (Original Post) SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 OP
Never before have I seen this country in such peril. democrank Jun 22 #1
Everyone I mentioned SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #2
Sarandon! lol! Blues Heron Jun 22 #3
I turn MSNBC off if Glaude is on LetMyPeopleVote Jun 22 #4
I apologize for using my own eyes. I'll try not to let it happen again. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 22 #5
Scapegoats are a substitute for critical thinking Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #6
None are scapegoats SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #7
Who's being an apologist? Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #9
Who is that? SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #10
If you say so Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #12
Because they trashed Biden. That only helped Trump SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #14
If you can't figure it out...nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #16
No please tell us SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #17
Sorry... Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #18
How is it bait? SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #19
Like I said, ask around... Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #20
No I'm asking you SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #21
Right.. they're Not fucking "scapegoats".. Cha Jun 22 #26
Merrick Garland deserves a note because this is all his fault for failing to protect us when he had the chance. lark Jun 22 #8
Or maybe a nice fruit basket lol SocialDemocrat61 Jun 22 #11
Pick your preferred AG Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #13
Maybe, but I doubt it. lark Jun 22 #22
Walk me through the process Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #23
Had Harris not been elected VP Retrograde Jun 22 #24
Walk me through the process Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #25
In my scenario, she (or he) becomes AG in late January 2021 Retrograde Jun 22 #27
Again, "more aggressive" is meaningless Fiendish Thingy Jun 22 #28
Frothy deluxe extra large, thick, and juicy special sauces for life wished for their such blessed hearts & mouths! Brainfodder Jun 22 #15

democrank

(11,638 posts)
1. Never before have I seen this country in such peril.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:50 AM
Jun 22

At some point we have to come together….Democrats, moderate Republicans, Independents….
and attempt to save what we have left of our country, it’s institutions and core values.

My “thank you note” would be reserved for the feckless Republicans in Congress and various Trump enablers.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,980 posts)
6. Scapegoats are a substitute for critical thinking
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:42 AM
Jun 22

But if you’re taking orders, I’d like to send a basket of rotten fruit to the Roberts court.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,153 posts)
7. None are scapegoats
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:45 AM
Jun 22

they all contributed to helping Trump get elected. Being an apologist for rich, elitist media celebrities is not critical thinking.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,980 posts)
9. Who's being an apologist?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:46 AM
Jun 22


The onus for the Dems loss in 2024 rests on one man’s shoulders, and it ain’t George Clooney’s.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,153 posts)
10. Who is that?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:58 AM
Jun 22

And Clooney nor any of the others are blameless. Saying they are is being an apologist.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,980 posts)
12. If you say so
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:08 AM
Jun 22

AFAIK, Clooney Stewart, and all the others you mentioned all have two functioning eyes and two functioning ears.

As do I.

So what’s to apologize for?

SocialDemocrat61

(5,153 posts)
14. Because they trashed Biden. That only helped Trump
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:12 AM
Jun 22

They are not doctors so they didn’t know if he was fit for not.

And who is this all powerful person who is solely responsible for democrats losing the election? Please enlighten us.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,980 posts)
18. Sorry...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:52 AM
Jun 22

…not taking the bait.

Been here 20 years, long enough not to fall for that one.

Guess you’ll have to remain in the dark…all though I bet if you ask around, everyone else has figured it out by now.

SocialDemocrat61

(5,153 posts)
19. How is it bait?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jun 22

You brought it up by posting

The onus for the Dems loss in 2024 rests on one man’s shoulders

So please let us know who were talking about.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,980 posts)
20. Like I said, ask around...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:16 AM
Jun 22

Everybody else has figured it out.

P.S. it’s not Merrick Garland…does that help?

lark

(25,214 posts)
8. Merrick Garland deserves a note because this is all his fault for failing to protect us when he had the chance.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:29 AM
Jun 22

He's despicable and I hope karma gives him a ride.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,980 posts)
13. Pick your preferred AG
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:10 AM
Jun 22

How would the outcome have been any different with the corrupt Roberts court in place?

Same obstruction, same delays, same immunity, same outcome - no trial before the election.

lark

(25,214 posts)
22. Maybe, but I doubt it.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:24 PM
Jun 22

If he had been agressive as he should have been, the information would be overwhelming and I think tsf would be in jail now.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,980 posts)
23. Walk me through the process
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:38 PM
Jun 22

How would another AG have overcome the obstruction, delays, and immunity imposed by the Roberts court, and go to trial before the election?

“More aggressive” is not an answer based in reality.

If Trump had lost the election, then yes, perhaps we’d be following one or more of his trials right now.

But he didn’t lose, and that’s nothing Garland had any control over.

Retrograde

(11,190 posts)
24. Had Harris not been elected VP
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:18 PM
Jun 22

I'd have picked her for AG. Since she wasn't available, I'd say Elizabeth Warren, or Rep Raskin - someone who was in the Capitol on Jan. 6 and understood the stakes.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,980 posts)
25. Walk me through the process
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 05:48 PM
Jun 22

How would your preferred AG have circumvented the obstruction, delays and immunity imposed by the Roberts court to ensure a trial occurred before the election.

“Be more aggressive” is not a serious answer - the courts hold all the cards and authority regarding the scheduling of trials- an AG/DOJ can only make motions, which can be denied.

So how do imagine your Super Aggressive AG would prevail?

Retrograde

(11,190 posts)
27. In my scenario, she (or he) becomes AG in late January 2021
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:14 PM
Jun 22

this is before the 2nd Senate trial: that didn't start until the beginning of February 2021. McConnell goes ahead with his statement that Donnie should be tried in the courts: the new AG jumps on this. And keeps on it: even if Roberts decides to punt, the government presents evidence that Trump was involved in planning the insurgency and that doesn't go away - the DoJ doesn't let it get brushed over while going for the low-hanging fruit. In my scenario, the AG is more aggressive about prosecuting Donnie for taking classified documents home with him, and more aggressive about finding and trying the people who were filmed assaulting police.

(non sequitur: I read recently that experienced fruit pickers go for the higher hanging fruit first, since it's easier to pick the ones higher up in the trees while the basket is still light and nearly empty, then pick up the rest as they go down)

Fiendish Thingy

(19,980 posts)
28. Again, "more aggressive" is meaningless
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:21 PM
Jun 22

By “more aggressive” I presume you mean quicker to indict- which would dramatically raise the odds for acquittal or dismissal, and still doesn’t overcome the obstruction, delays and immunity provided by the Roberts court - no AG would have had the power to do so.

I’m guessing you didn’t follow the docs case too closely, and don’t know the difference between, and evidentiary requirements for charging and convicting, for unlawful possession, removal or retention, of National Defense Information, the latter of which is what Trump was eventually charged with.

Brainfodder

(7,519 posts)
15. Frothy deluxe extra large, thick, and juicy special sauces for life wished for their such blessed hearts & mouths!
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:14 AM
Jun 22

They have earned it every time they eat in public!
BRAVO!

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