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spanone

(139,605 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:52 PM Jun 22

Breaking: Iran closes Strait of Hormuz

Last edited Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Just reported on MSNBC

FILL UP NOW.

UPDATE: While Iranian state media reported that the parliament had agreed to endorse blocking the strait, the decision ultimately belongs to Iran's Supreme National Security Council.

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Breaking: Iran closes Strait of Hormuz (Original Post) spanone Jun 22 OP
They've never been able to pull that off. That'll just encourage TACO. marble falls Jun 22 #1
Doesn't matter if they pull it off all the way. Bohunk68 Jun 22 #2
They've never pulled it off when they've tried before. The last time they tried, they lost half of their Navy above ... marble falls Jun 23 #49
we shall see. spanone Jun 22 #3
Seriously. If Iran thinks they can hold off the USN at Hormuz, they are preparing to go to paradise ... marble falls Jun 23 #56
This is the first level of retaliation Keepthesoulalive Jun 22 #4
How bout that putin bootlicker we've got in Moscow wolfie001 Jun 22 #29
And very effective one. Martin68 Jun 22 #40
All it will take is the sinking of a couple of tankers in the strait JPK Jun 22 #5
Bingo. roamer65 Jun 22 #6
I heard that 50 tankers were scrambling to get out of the Strait this morning. kentuck Jun 22 #10
It will be a nervous ride for them. roamer65 Jun 22 #14
In theory, we can keep the strait open. Just like the Bab el-Mandeb strait but most ships bypass it and sail around progree Jun 22 #16
i read yesterday that closing the strait would up oil to $130/barrel. Native Jun 22 #23
Most shipping has been diverted from there anyway, experts say we may see oil go up by $5 a barrel. nt ImNotGod Jun 22 #28
Oil from the ME accounts for less then 10% of oil imported by the US Kaleva Jun 22 #7
It's all about the spot price of oil. roamer65 Jun 22 #8
Which would mean greater domestic production Kaleva Jun 22 #9
Depends on the oil itself. roamer65 Jun 22 #11
Fracked shale oil is about as light and sweet as it comes FBaggins Jun 22 #35
Strait. roamer65 Jun 22 #48
The oil companies will sell this domestic oil wherever it's most profitable. hunter Jun 22 #17
This is the bottom line Red Mountain Jun 22 #19
we don't refine our oil Sailingdiver Jun 22 #18
The US refines a lot of things from oil from all sorts of sources Red Mountain Jun 22 #22
And yet gas prices will raise more than 10% ck4829 Jun 22 #30
Prices are not regional iemanja Jun 22 #33
Even less than that FBaggins Jun 22 #37
I'll rewrite my post to make it more clear Kaleva Jun 22 #44
All I can find is the parliament "endorsed" FormerOstrich Jun 22 #12
Probably not yet. roamer65 Jun 22 #13
Waiting for final approval kkmarie Jun 22 #15
The vote by the Iranian Parliament is the first step. Someone is already interfering with GPS in the Strait LetMyPeopleVote Jun 22 #20
Oh, Butterflylady Jun 22 #26
Shit. While I don't think the closure will last all that long Warpy Jun 22 #21
On the plus side for Russia, the price of oil is going to shoot back up. They just got lucky I suppose.... OnDoutside Jun 23 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Jun 22 #24
This will mainly hurt European countries, Butterflylady Jun 22 #25
The vote is not binding because the final decision rests with Iran's supreme national security council. nt ImNotGod Jun 22 #27
At least they consult the legislature iemanja Jun 22 #34
I'm sure glad I retired and got the Mazda Mirage 41 mpg wolfie001 Jun 22 #31
Just the threat sends oil prices higher which will anger Americans. OrlandoDem2 Jun 22 #32
We are winning! twodogsbarking Jun 22 #36
' there will be so much winning that you will get sick of winning ' Jack Valentino Jun 23 #51
Charlie Sheen said the same thing, different drugs though. twodogsbarking Jun 23 #52
This is just another reason I am glad to be retired. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jun 22 #38
Who will GOP blame when oil prices increase? IronLionZion Jun 22 #39
Joe Biden or Barack Obama. spanone Jun 22 #42
Oh yeah, they are already blaming Obama for being soft on Iran IronLionZion Jun 22 #46
Nobody could have predicted that! bluedigger Jun 22 #41
I'm at Costco now. markodochartaigh Jun 22 #43
Maybe the EV and clean energy Beachnutt Jun 22 #45
Heckuva job Trumpy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 22 #47
This is Trump's War! Emile Jun 23 #53
Interesting... Mike Nelson Jun 23 #54
Doubt purple_haze Jun 23 #55
Because of Dumb As a Rock, Krasnov. Joinfortmill Jun 23 #57

Bohunk68

(1,399 posts)
2. Doesn't matter if they pull it off all the way.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:03 PM
Jun 22

The industry will still jack up prices regardless. That's why they gave Putinfluffer the billion for his election.

marble falls

(66,989 posts)
49. They've never pulled it off when they've tried before. The last time they tried, they lost half of their Navy above ...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:16 AM
Jun 23

... above small craft in less than fifteen minutes to an American aircraft carrier task force. There is some speculation that Iran somehow found out that the orders to the task force was that they were to "neutralize" Iranian swiftboats that got to neat the fleet, but that they were not to engage Iranian naval ships. Two got too to close and locked targeting radar on the American ships and they got zapped PDQ. Iraq's Navy had Exocet missiles and they are effective, and they accidently almost sank the USS Stark



USS Stark listing after being struck by two Iraqi Exocet missiles in the Persian Gulf during the Iran/Iraq war.

She made it back to the states for repairs, lost 37 dead in the event and in treatment, with 23 wounded.

Saddam Hussain apologized and claimed the pilot mistook the frigate (just a tad smaller than a destroyer) for an Iranian tanker.

According to the Pentagon, an Iranian helicopter joined a Saudi Arabian vessel to aid in rescue operations.

marble falls

(66,989 posts)
56. Seriously. If Iran thinks they can hold off the USN at Hormuz, they are preparing to go to paradise ...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 09:32 AM
Jun 23

... we wiped out half of their big boats the last time. Two ships smaller than a US destroyer. The US has 11 active aircraft (mostly nuclear) carriers that can stay on station for years. There's at four of them within a weeks cruise, though their aircraft can be there in a few hours. If they try to block it with wrecks, just remember how quickly civilians cleared Baltimore Harbor last year, or how quickly the Egyptians cleared the Suez when the Evergreen wedged itself.

Interesting factoid. The USAF is the largest air force on the planet. Guess who's #2.

The US Navy.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,514 posts)
4. This is the first level of retaliation
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:12 PM
Jun 22

This entire mess had nothing to do with the USA. Now we are in an another quagmire with a stupid easily manipulated narcissist and no experienced diplomats to engage the Iranians.

wolfie001

(5,681 posts)
29. How bout that putin bootlicker we've got in Moscow
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:55 PM
Jun 22

He's quite the embarrassment. "How was your day, oh great leader?" with tears in his eyes.....

JPK

(821 posts)
5. All it will take is the sinking of a couple of tankers in the strait
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:30 PM
Jun 22

Tankers will stay in port. Insurance rates, already high, will skyrocket. It won't take too much.

roamer65

(37,677 posts)
6. Bingo.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:38 PM
Jun 22

Or simply lining up all of the Iranian tankers in the two channels and wiring them with explosives.

Each channel is only 2 miles wide, with a 2 mile buffer zone in between.

One part of it is in Iranian waters, very near their coastline.

kentuck

(114,373 posts)
10. I heard that 50 tankers were scrambling to get out of the Strait this morning.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:54 PM
Jun 22

It will definitely affect the world oil supply. And the prices also, I would assume.

This is only the beginning. It is hardly time to raise the "Mission Accomplished" banner yet.

roamer65

(37,677 posts)
14. It will be a nervous ride for them.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:05 PM
Jun 22

The first part of the shipping channel when leaving the Gulf is VERY close to the Iranian mainland.

It passes in between Iranian islands and their mainland.

progree

(12,085 posts)
16. In theory, we can keep the strait open. Just like the Bab el-Mandeb strait but most ships bypass it and sail around
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:11 PM
Jun 22

Africa instead.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-orders-closure-of-strait-of-hormuz-putting-one-fifth-of-world-s-oil-supply-at-risk/ar-AA1Hc03Y

In previous years, the Houthi militia in Yemen was able to successfully disrupt traffic through the Bab el-Mandeb Strait leading into the Red Sea on the other side of the Arabian Peninsula.

Using the firing of missiles and drones, the Houthis were able to cut ship traffic through the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden some 70% in June compared with the average levels in 2022 and 2023, according to Clarkson Research Services Ltd, a unit of the world’s largest shipbroker.

Vessel operators have been forced instead to reroute traffic around the southern tip of Africa instead of using the Suez Canal, making journeys for ships traveling between Europe and Asia vastly more expensive and much longer.


Separately, by the way, my post's article title is misleading "Iran orders closure of Strait of Hormuz — putting one-fifth of world’s oil supply at risk"

as the article points out, it's just a vote of the Iranian Parliament

It will come into effect pending a final decision by Iran’s Supreme Council.

Native

(7,184 posts)
23. i read yesterday that closing the strait would up oil to $130/barrel.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jun 22

I think it was in The Economist

ImNotGod

(854 posts)
28. Most shipping has been diverted from there anyway, experts say we may see oil go up by $5 a barrel. nt
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jun 22

Kaleva

(39,640 posts)
7. Oil from the ME accounts for less then 10% of oil imported by the US
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:42 PM
Jun 22

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roamer65

(37,677 posts)
8. It's all about the spot price of oil.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:44 PM
Jun 22

We will blow past $100 easy.

Shades of 1973, 1979 and 1990.

Kaleva

(39,640 posts)
9. Which would mean greater domestic production
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jun 22

Prices will be higher but there won’t be any shortage in the US.

roamer65

(37,677 posts)
11. Depends on the oil itself.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jun 22

Our refineries are more tailored for sweet light crude.

I can run Unleaded 88, 15 pct EtOH…so I will fare better than most.

Plus I get above 35 mpg, so $6 to $$8 a gallon doesn’t matter to me.

FBaggins

(28,237 posts)
35. Fracked shale oil is about as light and sweet as it comes
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:15 PM
Jun 22

Certainly more so than most oil coming through the Straight.

We actually have a number of refineries tailored for the heavier stuff… which is why we still import some (from Canada and Venezuela) despite producing more than we consume overall

hunter

(39,639 posts)
17. The oil companies will sell this domestic oil wherever it's most profitable.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:15 PM
Jun 22

They don't have any loyalty to the U.S. American consumer.

Red Mountain

(2,139 posts)
22. The US refines a lot of things from oil from all sorts of sources
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jun 22

including domestic. Most of our oil imports for gasoline refining are coming from Canada and Mexico these days, though.

iemanja

(56,246 posts)
33. Prices are not regional
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:13 PM
Jun 22

Oil is a global commodity, and price increases in one region affect the global price.

FormerOstrich

(2,825 posts)
12. All I can find is the parliament "endorsed"
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jun 22

closing the straight. Have they actually done so (yet)?

roamer65

(37,677 posts)
13. Probably not yet.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jun 22

But it’s coming and they can do it. Part of the shipping channel is directly in Iranian waters and hugs their coastline.

kkmarie

(257 posts)
15. Waiting for final approval
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:09 PM
Jun 22
https://www.politico.eu/article/iran-reportedly-moves-shut-strait-hormuz-us-attacks/

Iran's state-owned broadcaster Press TV reported that the legislature had reached a consensus to close the strait. The final decision rests with Iran’s Supreme National Security Council and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, it said.


Still needs the approval of the Supreme Leader, you know the guy Krasnov threatened to kill.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,210 posts)
20. The vote by the Iranian Parliament is the first step. Someone is already interfering with GPS in the Strait
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jun 22


The United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations advisory reports ongoing high electronic interference in the region, especially disrupting GPS systems. Interference originates from Bandar Abbas and the central Arabian Gulf, causing some vessels to navigate the Strait of Hormuz only during daylight. Increased ship congestion is also noted near Dubai and southern Gulf of Oman.

Warpy

(113,680 posts)
21. Shit. While I don't think the closure will last all that long
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:33 PM
Jun 22

it is going to be a temporary disaster as trade through the Suez is backed up. This is going to piss everybody off, Even Russia. Their shadow fleet won't be able to make it to India in a timelay manner.

This is a dumbass move by desperate men who want to remain in power.

OnDoutside

(20,850 posts)
50. On the plus side for Russia, the price of oil is going to shoot back up. They just got lucky I suppose....
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:45 AM
Jun 23

Response to spanone (Original post)

Butterflylady

(4,490 posts)
25. This will mainly hurt European countries,
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:42 PM
Jun 22

But, Iran will more than likely strike our base in Saudi and the Saudi won't be happy if they bomb their oil fields too.

ImNotGod

(854 posts)
27. The vote is not binding because the final decision rests with Iran's supreme national security council. nt
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:48 PM
Jun 22

wolfie001

(5,681 posts)
31. I'm sure glad I retired and got the Mazda Mirage 41 mpg
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:59 PM
Jun 22

One tank per month (around 7 gallons). I'm fine until the republican motherfuckers break Social Security and Medicare. I already eliminated extra spending on Jan. 20th. I just knew this fat fuck was gonna destroy everything. All because some guy somewhere put on a dress.

OrlandoDem2

(3,000 posts)
32. Just the threat sends oil prices higher which will anger Americans.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:02 PM
Jun 22

I’ll pay higher gas prices in exchange for lower approval ratings for the orange anus in the WH.

Jack Valentino

(2,795 posts)
51. ' there will be so much winning that you will get sick of winning '
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:55 AM
Jun 23

~ Donald Trump, some years back....


Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,726 posts)
38. This is just another reason I am glad to be retired.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:28 PM
Jun 22

No more 55 mile per day round trip commute 5 days a week. My spouse and I combined might drive about five or six thousand miles per year now.

IronLionZion

(49,433 posts)
46. Oh yeah, they are already blaming Obama for being soft on Iran
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 05:24 PM
Jun 22

which only works on idiots who don't know that Obama got international inspectors to visit their facilities to monitor compliance with treaties.

markodochartaigh

(3,334 posts)
43. I'm at Costco now.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:47 PM
Jun 22

It was very, very slow for a Sunday. But the gas lines are backed up more than normal.

Beachnutt

(8,803 posts)
45. Maybe the EV and clean energy
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:16 PM
Jun 22

industry will really take off now.
Looking on the bright side.

Mike Nelson

(10,657 posts)
54. Interesting...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:50 AM
Jun 23

... BIG news, but I just turned on MSNBC and they were not reporting this... they do a lot of repeat segments and shows, but this seemed to be an actual "live" Morning Joe morning, for now. They repeat 3 AM at 5 AM, so I will see what others are reporting on this closure.

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