Maddow Blog-Trump drops f-bomb as Israel and Iran face accusations of ceasefire violations

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The president is getting a timely lesson in “Middle East crises are complicated,” which seems like the sort of thing he should’ve already known.

Trump, last night: Israel/Iran ceasefire will likely “go forever”
Trump, this morning: Israel/Iran “don’t know what the f--- they’re doing”

He’s getting a timely “the Middle East is complicated” lesson, which seems like the sort of the thing he should’ve already known. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-06-24T12:49:55.436Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-drops-f-bomb-israel-iran-face-accusations-ceasefire-violations-rcna214698

Soon after, Trump spoke briefly to reporters at the White House, where his frustrations appeared to boil over. NBC News reported:

Trump said that both Iran and Israel violated the ceasefire he announced yesterday. ‘I think they both violated it,’ he said. ‘I’m not sure they did it intentionally. They couldn’t reign people back. I don’t like the fact that Israel went out this morning at all, and I’m going to see if I can stop it.’

The Republican added, “We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the f--- they’re doing. Do you understand that?”

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:aunpu65mdrhwfie7ynymlzeh/post/3lsdyzwk6p225

Link to tweet

As part of the same Q&A, Trump accused both countries of behaving in a “ridiculous” way.

So to summarize, roughly half a day after the American president said the Israel/Iran ceasefire would likely “go forever,” and there was no reason to believe Israel and Iran “will ever be shooting at each other again,” Trump was reduced to dropping an f-bomb on the White House South Lawn as his frustrations boiled over.

The point is not to chide the president for having a potty mouth. Rather, the point is that he really ought to understand by now that premature triumphalism is folly, and assuming the complexities of Middle East conflicts can be resolved through the force of his will is absurd.

Or put another way, Trump is getting a timely lesson in “Middle East crises are complicated,” which seems like the sort of thing he should’ve already known.

[PittBlue]

1. Speaking of not knowing WTF you are doing...

Trump is the master of this.

[LSparkle]

2. So THEY 're acting " ridiculous" ... ?

Have all the mirrors in the WH been covered up? 😖

[FalloutShelter]

3. Round and round we go.

I’m fucking dizzy. 😵‍💫

[usonian]

4. Chatbots hallucinate.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220281483

The Hallucinating ChatGPT Presidency -- Is Trump a chatbot?

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/04/29/the-hallucinating-chatgpt-presidency/

Judge for yourself.

Tue, Apr 29th 2025 09:34am - Mike Masnick

We generally understand how LLM hallucinations work. An AI model tries to generate what seems like a plausible response to whatever you ask it, drawing on its training data to construct something that sounds right. The actual truth of the response is, at best, a secondary consideration.

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But over the last few months, it has occurred to me that, for all the hype about generative AI systems “hallucinating,” we pay much less attention to the fact that the current President does the same thing, nearly every day. The more you look at the way Donald Trump spews utter nonsense answers to questions, the more you begin to recognize a clear pattern — he answers questions in a manner quite similar to early versions of ChatGPT. The facts don’t matter, the language choices are a mess, but they are all designed to present a plausible-sounding answer to the question, based on no actual knowledge, nor any concern for whether or not the underlying facts are accurate.

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This is not the response of someone working from actual knowledge or policy understanding. Instead, it’s precisely how an LLM operates: taking a prompt (the question about job losses) and generating text based on some core parameters (the “system prompt” that requires deflecting blame and asserting greatness).

The hallmarks of AI generation are all here:
• Confident assertions without factual backing
• Meandering diversions that maintain loose semantic connection to the topic
• Pattern-matching to previous responses (“ripped off,” “billions of dollars”)
• Optimization for what sounds good rather than what’s true

Great article and hard to summarize, because the author gives so many spot-on examples.

What "the media" gets entirely wrong is treating his statements (generated responses) as carefully crafted political strategy, when we have learned to treat AI hallucinations as meaningless babble. By elevating them they participate in the sanewashing of his only cognitive skills: revenge, grift and autocracy.

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5. Would Jesus Drop an F-bomb? WJDFB

republicons morals are right out of the garbage can.