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Kablooie

(18,941 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 02:40 PM Jun 27

The Trump version of the Reichstag fire is here?

Last edited Fri Jun 27, 2025, 06:48 PM - Edit history (1)

The new SCOTUS decision that if a lower court decides an action is unconstitutional, it won't delay implementation of the action nationally. It will only delay it for those named in the lawsuit.

This will allow Trump or a state to do anything that's blatantly unconstitutional and immediately implement it. There is no recourse except for individuals who get a lawyer and sue. It can take years to go through the legal system and finally reach a Supreme Court decision that will apply nationally. All during that time, the unconstitutional action will remain policy and could damage people's rights and lives.

This is the new way that a dictator can toss out the rule of law and do anything he wants.

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The Trump version of the Reichstag fire is here? (Original Post) Kablooie Jun 27 OP
I hear a class action suit has already been filed Baitball Blogger Jun 27 #1
As I understand it... regnaD kciN Jun 27 #2
Not exactly the best comparison...... Red Mountain Jun 27 #3
". . . individuals who get a lawyer and sue . . . " AverageOldGuy Jun 27 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author AverageOldGuy Jun 27 #5

regnaD kciN

(27,178 posts)
2. As I understand it...
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 02:53 PM
Jun 27

…it means that a district court judge’s injunction only applies to their jurisdiction, not just to the specific plaintiffs in the case.

It means that you’d need a separate injunction for each circuit court district – or to convert the case to a class action suit, which is possible.

It makes it a lot more cumbersome to challenge a law or EO, but comparing it to the Reichstag fire is utterly nonsensical.

Red Mountain

(2,139 posts)
3. Not exactly the best comparison......
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 05:25 PM
Jun 27

but it sure looks like a road to a country with more than one interpretation of the Constitution.

Which is to say.....no more law of the land.

That seems pretty bad, too.



I guess if you're willing to wait for the SC to take up issues.....if they do.......things will equalize over time. Maybe. Don't pack up to move yet, people. Marriage annulled? Give it a couple of years.



Not that anybody wants to know what I think......but I think this ruling will be bad for business. It will create chaos.

And that's why it will be downplayed and marginalized and ultimately discarded.

AverageOldGuy

(2,732 posts)
4. ". . . individuals who get a lawyer and sue . . . "
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 05:38 PM
Jun 27

Trump has already beaten most law firms into submission, so, no one will sue him.

It was all coordinated. They have had several years to figure out the steps necessary to establish a dictatorship, how and when to implement each step, and now they are doing it. We can't stop them.

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