Get armed, get trained, get organized, get ready

[Aviation Pro]

Don't fucking tell me it can't happen here.

[roamer65]

1. 4 July 2026.

Let’s give the founding fathers a 250th that would make them proud.

[TinyBlueDot]

133. Wouldn't it be nice

If someone inside of krashnov's inner circle.would leak out what their end game really is for the people of America...fyi, there are 3 years 6 months 17 days 12 hours and 31 minutes left...assuming there is going to be another presidential election.

[purple_haze]

2. You had me at "get armed"

[sakabatou]

3. Well, the only things I have are gardening tools, and anything I can find around the house

Since I have a disability, I doubt I could ever buy a firearm.

[thought crime]

79. Yard weapons should work

Mow them down!!

[sakabatou]

125. I know. Lawn and gardening tools have LONG been used as weapons in history

[Jack Valentino]

126. I recall reading in the immortal WW1 novel "All Quiet On The Western Front"

that a "spade" was considered to be a more effective weapon for infantry assault by many,
rather than a rifle with a bayonet

because the bayonet could get stuck in the victim's ribs,
but with a spade you could cleave a man nearly in half,
and it wouldn't get stuck....

(back in the days of mostly bolt-action rifles, of course, and not semi-automatics)


Very grim war novel, but I still read it about once a year.
My 30-year old paperback copy is starting to fall apart

[TnDem]

161. Except the Germans had Maxim machine guns

Tens of thousands were killed by the German Maxim machine gun during WW1....It is 8mm, water cooled and highly reliable.

It was nicknamed "The Devil's Paintbrush"

[Jack Valentino]

164. "All Quiet On The Western Front"

was written from the German perspective, a fictional work about a group of German soldiers in that war...
and the Allies had their own machine guns as well. However, I consider it to be
one of the greatest anti-war novels of the 20th century...

The high casualties sustained in attacking entrenched fortified positions
using the Napoleonic-era tactics of massed infantry
against defenders armed with modern rifles had already been demonstrated
during the American civil war... but of course the folly of those tactics
being used in World War One against machine guns magnified the casualties
suffered by both sides... into the millions.

[Johnny2X2X]

4. 100% agree

It is happening here and we just had a president say explicitly he has the right to expel anyone from the country that he sees fit "deport". And deport doesn't mean just leave the country, he is funding prison camps around the world that those people he sees as his enemies will spend the rest of their days on this earth at, no trial, no charges, just disappeared to a foreign prison indefinitely.

He doesn't care where you were born, he doesn't care if you're an immigrant at all, he just claimed the power to put you into a concentration camp simply for disagreeing with him. And you know what else, no one in Congress or on the SCOTUS is going to be able to stop him.

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. Let us know when your unit deploys

We love to read letters from the boys at the front lines.

[Jack Valentino]

127. Guessing that you won't be there, by your sarcastic 'dismissive tone' employed here...

I won't be there either, due to age and circumstances, unless the 'front lines' come close enough to me---
but I would only praise those who express the willingness to do so!

[Fiendish Thingy]

131. Au contraire

I am more than willing to learn how to build and deploy IED’s to use on any invading American troops should Trump decide to attempt to involuntarily annex us as the 51st state. (Highly unlikely IMO, but nevertheless I am willing if it comes to that)

[Jack Valentino]

132. I failed to observe that you were Canadian before now,

which may have completely confused me on the meaning of your post.... pardon me.


Also, I still treasure memories of my several visits to Canada, in my youth...
two to Niagara Falls, Canadian side, one to 'Fort Niagara'--- and two to Toronto and the 'castle'

[Fiendish Thingy]

134. I'm a dual citizen

Californian by birth, Canadian by choice.

My original post was tongue in cheek; I sympathize with the anger and outrage, but a call to arms on a public discussion forum is a bit too close to J6er territory IMO.

If the time comes, people will take the measures they deem necessary to protect themselves and their loved ones, and they won’t be beating their chests on the internet proclaiming it.

[Jack Valentino]

135. IF the J6ers had actually been CORRECT about a 'stolen election',

they would have had a valid point--- but they were not correct, and it thus wasn't a valid point


If the Trump administration actually DOES attempt to PREVENT any future federal elections,
that is a whole different kettle of stinking fish

[Fiendish Thingy]

136. Not going to happen

They can’t even control 10 million in L.A.

States control elections, and nationwide martial law is a physical impossibility.

[johnnyfins]

152. Not to memtion that Martial Law

Would shut down the oligarch's lifeline: THE US ECONOMY!!!!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

6. I'm already highly trained in a variety of weapons, including the venerable M-14, M-16, AK-47,

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Colt .45, Beretta 9mm, pump Shotgun, etc., if it truly comes down to it, I'll again defend my country, my family, friends and myself

[Chuuku Davis]

64. It is Beretta

[MarineCombatEngineer]

66. Yeah, I spelled it like that old private detective show with Robert Blake:

Baretta, instead of Beretta.
My bad, but not a big deal.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072471/

[Jack Valentino]

124. Always loved his white parrot

although I didn't watch the show all that much.... I do remember that.


Anybody recall the exact type of bird that was? I did keep birds in the past---

the champion was a hand-fed baby parakeet (budgie)
who grew to have an amazing vocabulary,
(much of which should not be repeated anywhere),

and he masturbated incessantly to his mirror---
when he "finished" he would scream his own name! LMAO

(his name was 'Hawkeye')
Also loved to eat Doritos and drink a little beer...

(sounds a little like a magat, but if he were alive today,
he would certainly be screaming about how much he hates Trump and Republicans,
with an amazing variety of expletives mixed therein)

[MarineCombatEngineer]

139. It was a Cockatoo, a very beautiful bird.

It was a hoot to watch it interact with Robert Blake, they seemed to have a connection.
Every now and then I'll break out my DVD collection of Baretta and watch them.

[Jack Valentino]

128. THANK YOU, MarineCombatEngineer!

and I mean that sincerely

[Traildogbob]

151. You know what Marine

This sailor will gladly stand by you, with my armory of goodies.
We can get along while taking out the trash invading us. After the work is done, we can go back to jabbing at each other’s branch of choice.
They decided to bring war here. The very shit we all served and so many died and so many came back mutilated for.
We can not stand by and allow this shit.
I am with you. I will cover you.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

154. II will proudly stand side by side with you, along with millions of other like minded Vets and Americans,

What these traitors to our Constitution don't seem to grasp is that we're not a bunch of wimps, we are, and I know this sounds kinda corny, the true defenders of our Constitution, not them.

[Traildogbob]

157. 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[Silent Type]

8. Now we are supporting gun-humping ammosexuals. That'll help us gain votes.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

12. So because I feel the same way, I'm now a "gun-humping ammosexual"?

I'm a loyal Democrat who happens to believe in the right to own firearms within reason, that doesn't mean that I don't think that there should be sensible gun control laws, I do, the problem is that half of the country, including the SCOTUS and the POTUS don't believe in sensible controls and have armed themselves to the nth degree and it would be beyond foolish to not be prepared for what they have in mind for us.

BTW, just is an ammosexual?

[MorbidButterflyTat]

17. Never mind.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. If that's what you think that the OP or me have in mind,

then that's a foolish way to look at it and I can't help you.

BTW, I'm no "Rambo", I have long hair, a long beard, I wear every day clothing, the only thing that distinguishes me as a vet is my USMC Retired ball cap, otherwise you would never know in public that I am a veteran.

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

34. My husband is the SAME way. He has long hair and a beard, doesn't wear a hat but he is a AF vet.

He feels the SELF SAME WAY! Constantly says that if I were to leave before him, he's going to teach those ice creeps some very good lessons. He's not a gunhumper but he believes that he has a right to protect innocents, his family, neighbours & friends from being terrorised by felons pardoned by a felon who tried to overthrow the rightfully elected govt in '21, have some serious chats with members of the magat cult. Left the NRA over 20 years ago because he was nauseated by what they were turning into.
He also left because common sense is common sense and not every knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, mentally off or addicted creep who stumbles into a gun show or store SHOULD have so much as a pea shooter sold to him or her. He and the other vets we know feel the same way.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

35. Spot on and thank you and thank your hubby for his service.

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

39. Right back atcha! BTW, there are FAR more people like us, both civilians AND vets who feel & believe like us than folks

would ever believe. IF the magats, peanut butter boys, oaf takers, ad nauseum try to start something, they're in for a HUGELY unpleasant, (for them) surprise because they actually believe that people on the left are "AFRAID", (yeah, I don't get it either), to even touch guns....LOL!! OH so deluded. Supposedly, they believe that because {{RUSH LIMBAUGH}} told them so... Let that sink in.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

53. Okay. Since you misrepresented my deleted post, I'll ask it again.

Your post I initially responded to: "...it would be beyond foolish to not be prepared..."

So I simply asked, What does being "prepared" look like to you?

Are you prepared to gun down your neighbors? Will you shoot at them, as they're shooting at you?

I'm sincerely curious, since "...half the country...have armed themselves to the nth degree..." what do you envision your response will be and in what scenario(s)?

I made no comment to or about the OP, and I don't care what you look like. Funny though, that you thought my Rambo comment was referring to you.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

55. My apologies, I musta misinterpreted your reply,

What does being prepared mean for me?
It means taking the MAGAt's word, which they've been very vocal about and are now acting on it, that they want to kill and destroy Democrats and being prepared to meet their threat with the same force they want to use on us, as far as shooting at my neighbors if they're shooting at me, it goes without saying that, yes, I would shoot back and do my dead level best to stop the threat to my life, but I don't have to worry about my neighbors, they're not MAGAt's nor do they support what's going on in the country.

It's not really about numbers, it's about tactics, in Vietnam, we had clear tech. superiority over the VC and the NVA, but we were defeated because they didn't play by our rules, they employed guerilla tactics, hit and run and just wore us down, along with the wonderful protests in the US against the war.

I truly hope it doesn't come down to this, but I'm not optimistic, what with a pres. and a SCOTUS that encourages this shit with the rhetoric.

I hope that explains it and again, my apologies for mis reading your post.

[thought crime]

80. I think the term probably applies to the extremists you mentioned

I've never heard the term before, but I assume it implies that extreme gun enthusiasts have a sexual fetish.

[Jack Valentino]

130. By my completely unsubstantiated opinion, an "ammosexual" is someone who

prefers to own at least 10,000 rounds of ammunition, rather than having sex---
if it was an "either-or" proposition
(or something like that)

Also owning an undeployable number of guns, if they intend to only arm themselves
(one can only fire one or maybe two guns at the same time...)

In any case, employing such a label against a Democratic patriot with military experience
who is expressing their willingness to take an armed stand for liberty,
"if necessary" to 'stand in the gab' between freedom and fascism,
while also expressing their support for reasonable 'gun control',
is wrong, weak, escapist and defeatist...

We are on the very edge of having that "dictatorial government"
which the NRA and gunhumpers always claimed as their justification
for opposition against gun control or any possible gov't confiscation of guns---

and it appears to me that they were quite correct, "in theory" if not in practice---
they always supposed that the impending 'dictatorial government'
would be liberal, rather than far-right---

but my opinion since Kent State was that the risk of a 'dictatorial government'
came mostly from the right, and the current circumstances certainly prove
that my supposition was quite correct


I also support the 2nd Amendment, "within reason", partly for the same reasons
that the far-right has done so--- but they have been aiming
their rhetorical guns in the wrong direction

[NickB79]

21. The OP wasn't about gaining votes

It's about self preservation.

Frankly, I'm amazed the left hasn't been arming up since the first Trump term. The far right has LITERALLY said they want to kill liberals.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

22. I'm flabbergasted by a few of the comments here,

it makes perfect sense to me to be ready for what the MAGAt's have in store for us and those that bury their heads in the sand and are counting on cops and the courts to protect them from the MAGAt's are living on Fantasy Island.

[Silent Type]

26. There was a time when gun-humpers were common on this site. Had hoped they were gone.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

27. So because we're being prudent, we're now, according to you, gun humpers?

That's got to be the 2nd most ridiculous post yet, only superseded by your first post.

You never did explain what an "ammosexual" is, care to do so now?

[Silent Type]

32. Same junk they used to post, 2nd Amendment solutions, etc. Sorry, one doesn't need a closet full of guns

though some seem lost without them.

If I need a weapon, which is not likely, I’ll stick with my machete.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

33. Fine, stick with your machette, that's your choice, which I respect,

but don't throw around insults to those of us who make different choices, that's just rude and uncalled for.
BTW, I don't own a closet full of firearms, my 2, count em, 2 firearms, a .45 ACP and an M-14, are kept locked up in my safe which is bolted to my floor with a camera on it 24/7.

[Silent Type]

36. Yeah, they used to like to post their weapons and tell us how they had to strap on one or two

to find the courage to walk out the door.

There’s a group here for gun lovers.

I don’t think guns are how we resist trumpsters, but yeah you do you.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

40. Yeah, I will do me.

You sound just like someone named Hoyt at one time, could that be you?

[Silent Type]

44. Support anyone who believes guns are a serious problem in this country, and who opposes 2nd Amendment solutions.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

46. I never said that firearms aren't a problem in this country, I've been very consistent on that,

but when you have half the country that do believe in a 2A solution and armed themselves to a degree never seen before, then it's best to take them at their word, which they've been very clear and vocal about and be prepared for it.

What is your solution to these MAGAt's that want to kill us Democrats?
The cops?
The courts?
Yeah, good luck with that if that's what you believe.

[Silent Type]

48. What MAGAt has tried to kill you with a GUN? Let's try to be rational.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

50. Did I ever say a MAGAt tried to kill me with a gun?

Hmm, checking back on my posts here and I don't see such a claim, but when the MAGAt's say they want to kill Democrats and have been doing so lately, then it's best to take them at their word, but if you don't want to believe it, that's on you, myself, when the MAGAt's proudly claim that they want to destroy Dems and have a pres. and SCOTUS that refuses to rein them in and actually encourages them with their rhetoric, then I take heed and prepare myself for the worse.

[cachukis]

109. You have handled this well.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

110. Thank you.

I just don't understand those that don't or won't see what's coming down the pike and bury their heads in the sand despite what the MAGAt's are saying and doing.

[cachukis]

113. We are not returning to what was. Best be prepared

for the unexpected, as much as possible.
Flowers in gun barrels make nice pictures.
Psychrachtics don't get the symbolism.

[FadedMullet]

104. Here's some ammo for you to consider for the .45 ACP.

https://ammo.com/best/best-45-acp-ammo

[MarineCombatEngineer]

105. Great website.

Thanks for the link, I'll definitely check it out.

[TnDem]

163. M14?

As you know, M14's are selective fire, which means an NFA tax stamp, Form 3 or Form 4, and at least $30,000 for a transferable M14..

Now if you meant the semi-auto "M1A", I can see that...That's around $1200 and a 4473/NICS

[MarineCombatEngineer]

169. Yeah, I know that,

I just call it an M-14 because it looks like the M-14. I do love the way it shoots, it's accurate as hell.
I guess I'll just start referring to it as the M-1A so's not to create any confusion.
Have a great and safe 4th and weekend.

[NickB79]

43. Bringing a knife to a gunfight, literally

Two years ago, virtually EVERYTHING that's happened in the last few months looked extremely unlikely. Now here we are, on the precipice of fascism, with a President about to be handed almost unlimited power and funding with the latest bill coming to his desk.

If you don't like guns, don't own them. That's totally your perogative. But don't expect the police or government to have your back any longer if you need them. We're in uncharted waters here.

[Silent Type]

45. Go oil your guns, there better ways to resist trump.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

47. Again with the snide remarks,

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well, go ahead and stick your head in the sand, I, myself, live in the real world and know tyranny when I see it and I prefer to be prepared to meet it in my own way if it truly comes down to that.

[Silent Type]

49. LMAO. I also support psychological tests for those who need guns to function.

[bluestarone]

116. THAT, (STICK HIS HEAD in the sand)is exactly what this person will do! Hell, he won't even answer that great question,

WHAT does he suggest doing? I'm 100% in your corner. 100%, because i know you're talking about when TSF's boys come at you, or you're family members. 3 years with all this extra ICE money just passed by the senate will destroy our constitution.I say to everyone BE READY, and walk right passed those heads in the sand!!

[NickB79]

118. My wife and daughter are Latino

And in case you missed it, Laura Loomer, one of Trump's most devout sycophants, just called for ALL 65 million Latinos in the US to be fed to alligators. A literal genocide of non-White American citizens.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220452990

So yes, I think I will oil my guns. Because I'll die before I let any harm come to them.

[Kaleva]

81. How many of your family members are you willing to lose in these gunfights?

What’s your acceptable casualty rate?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

82. What's your acceptable casualty rates when the MAGAt's start killing us?

Are you willing to fight back and protect your family, yourself, your country from this murderous regime and their toadies?

[Kaleva]

90. If some of your family is being killed in these shootouts, are you really protecting them?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

92. You didn't answer my question,

are you willing to protect your family, yourself and the country when, not if, but when the MAGAt's start killing Democrats as they've quite vocally said they would, as a matter of fact, they're already doing so.

[Kaleva]

96. You didn't answer mine which I had asked first

What is an acceptable casualty rate for members of your family?

If you can’t answer that, then I must assume you actually aren’t prepared.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

97. I'll hazard a guess that I'm far better prepared than you are.

You have a great 4th of July and just think about what's coming down the pike and how you're going to deal with it, I know how I and my family will deal with it, we already have a plan, that's what being prepared for it means.

[Kaleva]

111. I'm probably far better prepared for climate change then you are

There’s a great deal of information from reputable sources giving predictions , based on sound science, on how bad it will be. And we all know it’s happening now.

That is what I’m concentrating on.

As for your scenario, there’s no evidence that what you are preparing for has happened to a single DUer.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

114. You have no idea what I'm prepared for, none at all,

and again, please point out where I ever said a DUer was murdered or injured by a MAGAt.
If you find such a post, then I will apologize and donate a month's worth of my pension to the charity of your choice.
I'll wait.

Edit: If you can't find such a post, then will you reciprocate?

[Kaleva]

167. Where did I claim you said a DUer has been disappeared?

I asked you if you knew of any

[MarineCombatEngineer]

148. Have you found that post yet?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

158. Well, judging by your silence or refusal to answer my challenge,

you failed to find any post of me saying that a DUer has been injured or killed by a MAGAt, so, are you ready to own up to the fact that I never said or inferred that and will donate a sum total of what a month's worth of my pension is to the charity of my choice?

[Kaleva]

168. Can you quote the post where I said such a thing?

I bet you can’t.

[NickB79]

119. The far right is already calling for my family to be murdered

My wife and daughter are Latino.

Laura Loomer: feed all 65 million Latinos to the alligators

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220452990

These are not normal times.

[xmas74]

121. I don't own a gun

But I've thought about it. People around me have made their threats known about how they feel about any groups that don't support their party of hate and what they want to do if given a chance. They openly post on social media and nothing happens to them.

I used to target practice for fun back when I was young at a friend's farm. I've never owned a gun. The past few months have made me wonder if I should for protection.

[OldBaldy1701E]

68. Yep. I don't understand it. (n/t)

[JustAnotherGen]

57. One group has - I'm with them

A Wave of Black Women Gun Owners is Blowing Away Old Stereotypes
Possibly the fastest growing demographic in the nation’s arms race, Black women are finding camaraderie in groups that teach firearms safety and change the narrative around Black gun violence.

https://www.baltimoremagazine.com/section/community/black-women-gun-owner-groups-growing-demographic-dmv-maryland/

“Since the pandemic, since Donald Trump’s election, and all the things that are happening politically, there has been a rise in African Americans needing to—not just wanting to, needing to—protect themselves, because the racism we believed was dormant in the country….Well, race is now back on the table and we needed to collectively protect ourselves,” says Daniels.

She says that, with high crime rates and the particular vulnerability of women, it’s no wonder female gun ownership is growing.

“Women have been seen for many generations as sitting ducks,” says Daniels. “You have a lot of single moms who are raising multiple kids who are working around the clock…I think women have just decided, ‘I don’t want to be a victim anymore.’ Women have decided enough is enough

.”

An article in the Georgetown Journal of Law and Modern Critical Race Perspectives explains that, “When the Second Amendment was written, there were racist gun laws already in place, restricting the possession of firearms by Black people…Some scholars argue that the Second Amendment itself was included in the Constitution to ensure whites were able to control their Black slaves

.”

Black Americans owning guns is a protest of the status quo. Remember - Black women? We are resting. Our weekends are spent at gun clubs - not protesting in the streets. It provides me with a massive sense of calm to help other's learn, and my husband has been amazing. He was Italian Special Forces - he knows what he's doing.

Also - he's now seen me kill a squirrel mid air between two trees. He didn't think I could do it. Silly man. Green Beret's /Hunter's daughter. Of course I can. He ate it too!

[KentuckyWoman]

65. The idea progressives don't carry baffles me

Granted I'm of an older age, but a lot of us grew up hunting for survival. I used to be the best shot in the family. I am deep into my 80s and can still shoot better than most. I'm not gun crazy, but make no mistake, if there is no other alternative, I will shoot in an extreme circumstance to save an innocent. I've a history that proves it.

There are millions of Democrats of all sorts, progressives included, that own and will not hesitate to use a gun appropriately.

[Autumn]

58. You really think voting will get us out of this?

[Silent Type]

60. You really think guns will?

[Autumn]

61. No but guns will be of more use than doing nothing. Because this

is all going to shit. It never hurts to be prepared.

[Silent Type]

62. Take a lesson from the little guy who stood unarmed in front of tanks in China, MLK, etc.

[Autumn]

63. You feel free to do that. I'm going to be armed.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

69. Take a lesson from the VC, they conducted a very successful guerilla war against the most

powerful and technological military and defeated them, the US Military, that's the lesson I learned.

[Autumn]

141. Yeah they sure did.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

142. Thank you.

I see that your hubby was in Nam also,
please tell him from one Nam vet to another, Welcome Home Brother.

[Autumn]

143. I will and thank you . He's never been political. Until now.

I think he's making up for lost time.

[TnDem]

165. Tiananmen Square China guy?

He was murdered by the CCP after the famous video was taken...Family says the authorities rounded him up and he was never seen again.

[xmas74]

122. We don't always agree but we do agree on this.

I don't own a gun. I never wanted to own one. Watching everything fall apart around us makes me wonder if I shouldn't have something for protection- and be trained how to use it.

[Autumn]

140. I bought a hand gun and we target shoot fairly often.

My husband was in Nam and we often hunted when we were younger and we have always had rifles. The hand gun makes me feel more secure. My daughter and SIL own a lot of guns, including about 4 assault rifles and I've started shooting one of those also. These are strange times.

[xmas74]

147. I live in a small Missouri town.

Even a few years ago I wouldn't have worried too much about our residents but nowadays they've gone off the deep end. I see posts about how they want to "collect bounties" and how no one cares how it's done.

Every time a certain person opens his mouth it's another threat. I saw locals actually cheering the recent deaths of a married couple and their pet whom they never knew because " liberals deserve death". No one is stopping them and they are armed to the teeth.

[Autumn]

149. That's how it is here. I live in a red rural area and those MAGAtts are crazy.

I joined the community FB pages some of those people are crazy.

[xmas74]

150. We have far too many III%ers

Who proudly display their tats on their forearms for everyone to see. Back during March For Our Lives they stood across the stree from the high school with their guns and took photos of every kid who walked out, then posted them in local groups with request to identify them. They did the same during BLM in 2020 and did this recently during No Kings.

I don't trust any of them.

[Jack Valentino]

129. The possible situation being discussed, is if we HAVE no votes

or perhaps that nuance escaped your comprehension....


Personally I believe there will still be elections---
but if the Trump government tries to stop them,
that's a whole different bucket of worms...

If there is no 'ballot', then the only alternative is the bullet.

[Aviation Pro]

9. Wow, a deep cover disruptor was outed by this OP

Member since 2003.

[KPN]

29. ????

[ZDU]

52. Spot on

My thoughts exactly.

[W_HAMILTON]

103. They ain't the only one!

But I'm gonna keep my mouth shut and stay silent about that...

[Skittles]

108. nope

just offer them your honest opinion of Trump humpers, regardless of the thread's subject

puts them in quite the quandary (FYI they usually do NOT respond)

[Skittles]

107. there are quite a few fly-under-the-radar trolls here

I love to taunt them.

[ImNotGod]

10. Democracy is dead, gone, there isn't enough left for the fascists to drag through the streets so I guess

the fascists want a fight, especially the rich puppet masters who support them, just follow the money.

[Hotler]

11. +1. FYI, The Liberal Gun Club

The mission of The Liberal Gun Club is to provide a pro-Second Amendment voice for left-of-center gun owners in the national conversations on firearms.
https://theliberalgunclub.com/

[MarineCombatEngineer]

13. And I'm going to check it out and probably join up.

Thanks for the info.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

15. It's neither.

It's being prepared for what the MAGAt's have in mind for us, there's nothing wrong with being proactive and prudent.
You can make your own choice without the insult to the OP or those of us who are in agreement with the OP.

[Greg_In_SF]

16. Already

done.

[BigmanPigman]

19. When I read the OP this song played in my head

The lyrics of the French National Anthem are in English...

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[Deuxcents]

37. "When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty"

The French learned it the hard way and were doing all the non violent things we can but now we have the SC in step and it won’t be long before our greatest institutions fall as they’re already targeted. TSF has already proclaimed.. we either goose step to his drummer or else and it doesn’t matter what your birth certificate says. I am all for non violence but I’m also not wanting to live under a dictatorship. We’re might have to make choices non of may want and I truly pray that day doesn’t come

[WhiskeyGrinder]

20. as they say -- if you stay ready, you don't have to get ready

[MarineCombatEngineer]

23. Very wise words.

[Iamscrewed]

24. It's already happening.

[Warpy]

25. Probably decent advice for some people

but be aware that violent uprisings rarely succeed. Most have the pigs at the top changing hats and immediately set about making sure reforms never happen.

However, if you need to scare feral creatres away from your family and your property, being armed is probably a good idea.

[pfitz59]

28. Trump's big ugly bill

includes language about canceling elections. Thems fighting words!

[Greg_In_SF]

98. No it

doesn't.

[milestogo]

31. Thanks for the wakeup call.

I heard you.

Please, DUers, remember that you have a right to defend your life. Just because you have never needed to in the past does not mean you will never need to in the future.

[uncle ray]

137. i think it could be argued we have a duty to defend Democracy.

people focus on rights, but with rights come responsibilities in order to retain those rights.

[LuckyCharms]

38. Here's my issue with this kind of talk...

For years, we have been chiding the gun nuts..."So, you're going to take up arms against the United States Government? Good luck with that".

And that's the situation we face now...the enemy is THE GOVERNMENT.

So pragmatically, how will that work. How much is ICE going to expand under this bill? 20X did I read? Are we going to start shooting heavily armed ice agents when they try to take us? How is that going to work out for us?

I agree with your sentiment, but what you are talking about is a full scale hot civil war in which we will be outnumbered (because face it...how many of us are actually up to the task of fighting a hot war)?

[Whiskeytide]

88. I'm asking the same question. I am armed and I know ...

… how to use the several guns I have. And I guess if a band of drunken vigilantes showed up at my house with intentions of harming me or my family, I could hold my own, perhaps.

But if swat teams, ICE goon squads or the military are cleansing neighborhoods, using explosives, drones, night vision - whatever, I’m pretty sure that won’t end well for my side.

Modern technology, weapon systems and population control tactics learned in the Middle East have pretty much made the idea of peasant uprisings quaint.

I think it’s quite far fetched (yet maybe interesting to discuss?). But - realistically - if our government were to turn the military on the American population, I don’t think the “resistance” would last very long.

[xmas74]

123. My worry isn't the government

My worry is about those who will take advantage of situations and chaos.
I'd like to be safe at home, at least.

[Hotler]

170. I'm not taking up arms against the government. I'm taking up arms against MAGA vigilante door kickers.

They're going try and come for us. You may want a firearm.

[LuckyCharms]

171. To shoot them and then go to prison? Possibly foreign incarceration?

See the dilemma here?

I'm not saying you're wrong about anything, but I am saying that hell is coming for us whether we are armed or not.

[LexVegas]

41. Well armed and well trained here. nt

[Kaleva]

70. What are you trained to do?

[LexVegas]

72. Safely protect myself and my family. nt

[Kaleva]

78. What do you think the threat will be?

A sniper? That would be very hard for you to deal with. A squad of heavily armed ICE agents that ambush you or members of your family in a parking lot?

Do you include your family in your training drills? In most any shootout, there’s a chance that there will be casualties on both sides. Are you willing to accept that one or more of your family may be injured or killed in a firefight?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

83. So what's your answer to the existential threat we as Democrats face from this

terrorist regime and their toadies?

[Kaleva]

91. Is it a real threat or imagined?

What percentage of DUers have been “disappeared”?

I think it’s zero.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

93. I didn't say DUer's, I said Democrats, and again,

I noticed you failed to answer the question, you keep dancing around the question so I have to guess that you'll let others like myself and those that believe in the rule of law and democracy do the dirty work while you hunker down and let the country fall further into chaos.
Good luck with that.
And yes, the threat is real and ongoing even as we speak.

[Kaleva]

166. What is your answer? How many of your family are you willing to lose?

It’s zero for me. I’m not willing to risk the lives of any of my family by engaging in a series of gunfights with heavily armed and organized people .

[The Grand Illuminist]

172. Whoever said the target is ICE?

Focus the real foot soldiers of them all. That's where the war is.

[hamsterjill]

42. As I've said many times on DU already..

I am old as dirt and probably not worth much in a fight. But I can guarantee you that if some MAGA nutcase tries to harm me or my family, I am going to do my damn best to at least take them with me. Should it ever come to the need to defend myself, all bets are off.

I abhor violence and I hope it never gets to that point, but I agree with the OP that as each day passes under this administration and these nut cases are emboldened by the apparent Trump "wins", they gain confidence and push the limits of how they treat others. It is foolish not to be prepared as best we can.

[Noodleboy13]

54. As stated in Hitchhikers Guide. First against the wall when the revolution comes

First they came for the Mexicans, and I said nothing because I wasn't Mexican. Then they came for the Jews, but I was too busy twittering with my shiny "smart" gadget and virtue signalling how awesome and "peaceful" (read cowardly) I am. Thwt how I ended up in one of Trump's camps. Your virtue should keep you warm and snug. Btw, not an "ammosexual" whatever that means. I don't shove bullets up my ass to get off if that's what you're implying. I'm an archer. I like sneaky and quiet. At least until I finish building my DIY suppressor, acoustics is cool.

Peace,
Noodleboy

[MarineCombatEngineer]

56. In Vietnam, we had guys who used cross bows to terrorize the VC and NVA,

it was very effective, silent and deadly.

[Noodleboy13]

59. I been training as well.

Of course, I kinda adopted and follow the Way of the Mandolor, so i can be a little fetishishistic about my personal arms. But I m also a medievalist. Recurve bows and swords have been battle tested for hundreds of years. Classic "ninja" weapons? Retooled farm implements because peasants were forbidden from owning weaponry. Nun-chucks are basically a wheat threshing tool.

[Melon]

75. You'll get cut down by a guy with his grandpa's .22 pistol. If you think their could be conflict, by a gun designed for

Conflict.

[Noodleboy13]

115. Yeah. Ummmm for long range, like 60-100 yards out? I kinda have a bespoke hand built weapon for that.

I just don't talk about it in public forums lest I am pilloried for being an "ammosexual" . Cowardly armchair virtue warriors are notoriously touchy and quick to whine to teacher.

[Melon]

120. Not every democrat is anti gun and not every democrat is unarmed.

People here tend to lose sight of the full spectrum of people’s beliefs. I would personally believe in never being under gunned.

[OC375]

67. Plenty

If it goes hot, there will be plenty of automatic rifles to pick up off of corpses. Watch out for Lea Thompson though, she's laying on a grenade.

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[MarineCombatEngineer]

71. Or.............

[summer_in_TX]

73. I believe in being prepared.

That said, I still believe the research from Erica Chenoweth and their research partner studying around 350 political resistance movements from 1900 to 206. Nonviolent resistance mass movements are more than twice as effective as armed rebellion is in overturning authoritarian governments.

In those they studied, the nonviolent movements that reached and sustained 3.5 percent of the population in active resistance for an average of two and a half years succeeded in replacing their dictator nonviolently. The leadership of the most successful movements included many women in various significant roles in high numbers. Those that failed were male-dominated. Factors that seemed to help was the connections women tend to bring and sustain, which helped grow the movements to those impressive numbers.

Violent movements tend to lose popular support and not gain the numbers to succeed.

That said, being prepared for self-defense is smart.

[Melon]

76. Oh ah up the RA

[Bread and Circuses]

77. I saw my 70 year old neighbor....

A very quiet and smart woman and she told me that she’s ready to purchase a g#n.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

85. User name employs a maga trope "Adrenochrome"

Adrenochrome is the subject of several conspiracy theories, including QAnon and Pizzagate,[21][22][23] in which the chemical plays a similar role to Satanic ritual abuse stories.[24] The theories commonly state that a cabal of theistic Satanists rape and murder children, and harvest adrenochrome from their victims' blood as a recreational drug[25][26] or as an elixir of youth, similar to children's blood infusions.[27][28] In reality, adrenochrome has been produced by organic synthesis since at least 1952,[7][29] is synthesized by biotechnology companies for research purposes, which they sell to anyone; as it is not a controlled substance, any medical or recreational use of the chemical is effortless to access, negating the need for the expensive and dangerous process of child abduction.[30]

[Bernardo de La Paz]

87. I get sarcasm, but a sarcastic user name without an explanation on every post does not work.

I think you would be well advised to choose a new user name and reregister. It's not as if you'd be losing a large posting record when you have a single post (2 now).

This comes after a spate of maga first posts on using the Second Amendment and getting removed for that. And surprise surprise your first post is on using the Second Amendment.

But carry on if you think it will gain you respect to be frequently mis-identified as QAnon.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

89. Welcome to DU

[MorbidButterflyTat]

112. I've decided to become a Ninja

"A person trained in ancient Japanese arts of combat and self-defense and employed especially for espionage and assassinations."

That's so me!

Plus the outfits are sizzling hot!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

117. I like it.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

138. .

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

144. I would also like to be a Ninja, but ...

... but the best Ninjas do their work in the dark of night, and that's way past my bedtime.

Maybe I could get myself an outfit ...

[MarineCombatEngineer]

145. Yes do get the outfit,

as was pointed out, they are cool looking.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

146. Way back, I was gonna get an outfit ...

But then my dear Uncle Sam decided I should have a different outfit (non-USMC). Thanks for the draft notice, LBJ!

Beware my flying doughnuts of death!

[MorbidButterflyTat]

160. I believe I said

Sizzling hot!

[MorbidButterflyTat]

159. Go for it!

Ninja outfits are for day and night!

[DavidDvorkin]

153. Nope

Get rid of guns to the extent possible. Emulate other countries that have done so.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

155. Way past too late for that,

especially with this lunatic in the WH and the current SCoTUS, but you go ahead and root for that, it's a noble cause that just ain't gonna happen, in the meanwhile, I'm preparing for what's coming, are you?
Are you willing to defend your country from these murderous MAGAt's?
Are you willing to defend your family?
Your friends?
Yourself?
What is your practical solution for this, and by practical, I mean what would pass this corrupt SC?

[The Grand Illuminist]

156. We must have a good offense.

nt